I have not read the entire book, and in any case, probably wouldn't remember the places, only the names, but I scanned it briefly again, and found none of these places mentioned. It appears that this Howell family stayed in Loudon County until their move to Muskingum County, OH, probably after the revolutionary War, in about 1783, since that seems to be the last mention of them in the VA tax lists. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Howell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > Do Any of these Howell in "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > Points West" ever settle for a time in Lewis, Randolph, Harrison or Kanawha, > Counties Virginia in the late 1700's? > > Marsha > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. > Finley, > > published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. > > > > "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified > from > > his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or > > approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. > > > > i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. > > ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. > > v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. > > vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. > > vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. > > viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. > > ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " > > > > This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and > > proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be > very > > useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really > > careful to prove eveything they write. > > > > Jeannette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > Joe, > > > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. I'm > > > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from > > Loudon > > > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > > > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, Abner, > > > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > > > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment > what > > > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > > > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if the > > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > > > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David > and > > > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > > > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in > Loudon > > > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and Osborne > > > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > > > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on > Turkey > > > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who I'm > > > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and > William > > > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > > > three. > > > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born > about > > > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > > > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was married > > to > > > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt County, > > > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and > some > > > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy > Brewer > > > Howell of White County, TN. > > > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I > betcha > > > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, VA > > > will of 1777. > > > Will Smith > > > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > > > Missouri, > > > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and Agnes > > > Cason. > > > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same > > time > > > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my > husband > > > in > > > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, Higgins, > > > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my own > > > > (Hill). > > > > > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines > in > > > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed as > > > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one > > researched > > > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., Virginia. > > I > > > > don't know what's right. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > > > To: Howell List > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in > Grayson > > > Co., > > > > > VA > > > > > > Children; > > > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and Elizabeth > > > Avent > > > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > > > James Howell > > > > > > George Howell > > > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > > > Jane Howell > > > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > > > Mahala > > > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has > been > > > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and that > > > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John and > > > Nancy > > > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland > DAVIS > > in > > > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca > > Reese > > > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., > IL > > > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 and > > > lost > > > > > track of him! > > > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first wife > > > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 was > > John > > > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > > > Andrew > > > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son > Elijah > > > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel > Howell > > > and > > > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and > sources > > > for > > > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth > > HASH. > > > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these > families! > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie Smith, > > > > another > > > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, any > > help > > > > is > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe > Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > email > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > email > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > > [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] > > (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. >

Hi Jeanette, Thank you for looking for me. Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > I have not read the entire book, and in any case, probably wouldn't remember > the places, only the names, but I scanned it briefly again, and found none > of these places mentioned. It appears that this Howell family stayed in > Loudon County until their move to Muskingum County, OH, probably after the > revolutionary War, in about 1783, since that seems to be the last mention of > them in the VA tax lists. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsha Howell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > Do Any of these Howell in "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > Points West" ever settle for a time in Lewis, Randolph, Harrison or > Kanawha, > > Counties Virginia in the late 1700's? > > > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > > Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. > > Finley, > > > published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. > > > > > > "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified > > from > > > his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or > > > approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. > > > > > > i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. > > > ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > > iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > > iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. > > > v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. > > > vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. > > > vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. > > > viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. > > > ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " > > > > > > This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and > > > proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be > > very > > > useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really > > > careful to prove eveything they write. > > > > > > Jeannette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. > I'm > > > > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from > > > Loudon > > > > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > > > > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, > Abner, > > > > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > > > > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment > > what > > > > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > > > > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if > the > > > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > > > > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David > > and > > > > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > > > > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in > > Loudon > > > > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and > Osborne > > > > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > > > > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on > > Turkey > > > > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who > I'm > > > > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and > > William > > > > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > > > > three. > > > > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born > > about > > > > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > > > > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was > married > > > to > > > > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt > County, > > > > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and > > some > > > > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy > > Brewer > > > > Howell of White County, TN. > > > > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I > > betcha > > > > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, > VA > > > > will of 1777. > > > > Will Smith > > > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > > > > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > > > > Missouri, > > > > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and > Agnes > > > > Cason. > > > > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same > > > time > > > > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > > > > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my > > husband > > > > in > > > > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, > Higgins, > > > > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my > own > > > > > (Hill). > > > > > > > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines > > in > > > > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed > as > > > > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one > > > researched > > > > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., > Virginia. > > > I > > > > > don't know what's right. > > > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > > > > To: Howell List > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in > > Grayson > > > > Co., > > > > > > VA > > > > > > > Children; > > > > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and > Elizabeth > > > > Avent > > > > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > > > > James Howell > > > > > > > George Howell > > > > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > > > > Jane Howell > > > > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > > > > Mahala > > > > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has > > been > > > > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and > that > > > > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John > and > > > > Nancy > > > > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland > > DAVIS > > > in > > > > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca > > > Reese > > > > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., > > IL > > > > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 > and > > > > lost > > > > > > track of him! > > > > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first > wife > > > > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 > was > > > John > > > > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > > > > Andrew > > > > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son > > Elijah > > > > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel > > Howell > > > > and > > > > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and > > sources > > > > for > > > > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth > > > HASH. > > > > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these > > families! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie > Smith, > > > > > another > > > > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, > any > > > help > > > > > is > > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe > > Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > > email > > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > email > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > email > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > > > [email protected] (mail mode) or > [email protected] > > > (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >