Hi cousins, I just discovered something very interesting. A lot of the names we've been discussing for Grayson, Loudoun, and Botetourt Co. VA are listed in the Rev War records for Pennsylvania. Abner, Hugh, Daniel, Thomas Samuel, Andrew, John (lots), William, Ezekel, Phillip, Walter, Richard, Joseph, and more check it out at http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/archive.asp Did Hugh Howell move from Loudoun VA to Philadelphia Co. PA? andy graham