Hi: You are probably right. My wife says that I am always wrong. I just don't see , in something where we want everyone seeing our messages and information, not being able to get it without an invitation. There may be someone out there that has some of my Howell relatives online on myfamily.com, but their web page is about another surname and I miss it because I don't know it's there. It might be under JONES or SMITH and I don't know it. Didn't mean to stir up so much trouble. Steve Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: RE: geo cities mess Steve Actually, I have passwords on two sites like you are talking about and I found the people who sent me an invitation through roots web. Once I started corresponding with them they sent invites and I do the same when I find others who are not on the site. I have found the members on these sites to be even more helpful and friendlier than people you run across using some of the search engines, etc. There are a ton of features available too. My experience is that this is where the most experience and knowledgeable people can often be found. A fellow at one of these sites emailed me a 60 page descendancy with over 1400 direct descendants on it just to try and help me narrow down a possibility of one connection.