Just came across some additional info (mixed in with some stuff I already had)on Howell Welsh origins I thought I'd share. Would be interested if this info supports or contradicts what each of you have. Present Welsh, English and American Howells derive from old Welsh family of Abernent in Carmarthenshire, the linage and name deriving from Howel Dda (I think it's really Hywel Dda), the King of Wales from 943 to 950. He was grandson of Rhodri Mawr, the Great, who united almost all of ancient Wales under his supremacy. He (Hywel Dda I presume) was married to Ellen, daughter of the last of the Kings of Dyfed (whoever or whatever that is?) The reign of Howel Dda was remarkable for its peacefulness, and is the only ruler of ancient Wales designated "The Good". He was also the only King ever to issue his own coinage. On a visit to Rome in 928, became a student of jurisprudence, and the code of laws he composed is his lasting claim to fame. Three parts of his code are still found in English Common Law (which three?). He was such a wise and just man that he was called "the head and glory of all the Britons." There is a place today in Wales called Crickhowell, which I think was Hywel Dda's castle/home/fortress/something? Ring a bell with anyone? Marshall