As my Howell's were in NJ>OH>IL>MO and other Midwestern states, send me your Howells with the years of birth/death and maybe they may be siblings or cousins. I have an extensive file on the family lineage. Carrie -----Original Message----- From: JPM6966@aol.com [mailto:JPM6966@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 5:26 PM To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWELL] More Northern Howell Family lines Hey! I've noticed the same thing myself so have always remained silent. My Howell's were in IN. Pati May 12/9/03 2:45:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, hoffert@mindspring.com writes: > Hi, I have noticed over time that this mailing list seems to deal primarily > with Howells with origins from the Southern part of the US. > > I am descended from the Howell lineage with origins in the North, PA, New > England, IL, OH areas. Is there a separate mailing list for reaching that > portion of the Howell family members? If so what is that mailing list or > how may I locate it. Thanks Carrie Bias Hoffert. ______________________________

Sorry, No I do not have a Stanford, a Northrup or a Shaw Howell in my lineage info. Carrie -----Original Message----- From: rpotter [mailto:rpotter20@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:30 PM To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOWELL] More Northern Howell Family lines HI I do not know the answer to your question for sure but I don;t think the is a separate list However if you have listing in Ohio and Ill Do you have anything on a Stanford Howell born in Ill in 1832 Or Northrup or Shaw 1800--1850 or there abouts ----- Original Message ----- From: "william & carrie hoffert" <hoffert@mindspring.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:46 PM Subject: [HOWELL] More Northern Howell Family lines > Hi, I have noticed over time that this mailing list seems to deal primarily > with Howells with origins from the Southern part of the US. > > I am descended from the Howell lineage with origins in the North, PA, New > England, IL, OH areas. Is there a separate mailing list for reaching that > portion of the Howell family members? If so what is that mailing list or > how may I locate it. Thanks Carrie Bias Hoffert. > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > ______________________________

James is my brick wall. Following is what I have on him. He managed to avoid the census although his wife was listed in all of them. He disappeared and left his wife and children out in a restively newly settled area. Does anyone else have info on them? Merry Christmas Priscilla Family Group Sheet 11 Dec 2003 1 Husband James Aaron HOWELL1 Birth 1840 Green Bay, Brown, WI Census 1885 New York2,3 Property 9 Oct 1857 Bought land from Richard Bishop; Bremer County, Iowa4 Occupation Mar 1865 farmer; DePere, Brown, WI2 Property 14 Nov 1868 Bought from Richard Bishop; Bremer County, Iowa5 Property 23 Jan 1869 Sold land to Henry Meyer (sp); Bremer Co., Iowa6 Property 19 Apr 1881 Bought land from R. G McDonald7 Property 12 Jun 1883 Bought land from a group of people; Bremer Co., Iowa8 Property 31 Oct 1884 Sold to E. J. Merriott; Bremer County, Iowa9 Property 15 May 1888 Sold to F. W. Schroder; Bremer County, Iowa10 Property 3 Apr 1890 Sold land to W. S. Taylor; Land sold was in Bremer Co., Iowa but they were living in Traverse Co., Mi Marriage 1 Mar 1865 Oshkosh, Winn., Wisc.12 Father Isaac HOWELL ( - ) Mother Mary Ann ( - ) Wife Sarah Jane LONAS1 Birth 23 Jul 1850 New York3,13,14 Living Jan 1889 Clifton, Tra., Mn Property 2 Apr 1892 Land in Bremer Co., Iowa sold to Peter Lonas, her brother; Bremer Co., Iowa. Sarah living in Traverse Death 30 Nov 1900 Clifton, Tra., Mn14 Father Jacob LONAS (1823-1892) Mother Julany PICKLE (1823-1885) Children 1 M Frank Lavette HOWELL1 Birth 17 Dec 1866 Winneconne Win, WI16 Death 27 Oct 1927 Hinckley, Pine, Minnesota Spouse Mary Emaline MC CAMMANT (1874-1942) Marriage 2 Nov 1893 Herman, Grant, Minnesota17 2 M Luther HOWELL1 Birth 1869 Bremer Co., IA3 Birth Sep 1877 IA18 Death 21 May 1929 Anoka, MN 3 F Julianie HOWELL1 Birth 25 Nov 1875 Waterloo, Bremer, Iowa3 Death 13 Oct 1909 Lac La Nonne, Alb., Can Burial Lac La Nonne, Alb., Can Spouse Stannage Albert (Aziel) HAINES (1866-1941) Marriage 14 Apr 1895 Herman, Grant, Mn 4 M Lawrence HOWELL1 Birth 1880 Bremer Co., IA3 5 M Albert HOWELL1 Occupation 1934 to 1956 Grangeville High District; Grangeville, ID Birth 8 Jan 1882 Bremer Co., IA3,18 Living 1889 Wheaton, Tra., Minnesota Occupation 1905 road construction and logging; Roseau and Roosevelt, Minnesota Living 1905 North Dakota Living aft 1910 Roseau, Minnesota Living aft 1910 Roosevelt, Minnesota Occupation 1932 U.S. Forest Service; Grangeville, ID Living 1932 Grangeville, ID Death 5 Mar 1972 Grangeville, ID Occupation farmer Religion Church of the Nazarene Spouse Lena HULBERT ( -1930) Marriage abt 1905 Deer River, Itassa, Minnesota Spouse Annie M. JOHNSON (1902-1999) Marriage 9 Oct 1935 St. Marie19 FAMILY NOTES General: James Howell and Sarah J. Howell, his wife, of Bremer, Iowa sold land to Benjamin Henry, 24 Sep 1888. The land was in the village of Frederica, Bre., Iowa. (Bremer County Deed book) James W. Powell and Sarah J., his wife sold land in Bremer Co. 6 Apr 1868 to John Stevens. Bremer Co. Deed book "P", p. 263 A Z. T. Powell was also involved in selling the land although he was living in Winnebego Co., WI at the time. HUSBAND NOTES: James Aaron HOWELL James R. Howell buys land 1855 in Sharon, Wal., WI He is from Gainesville. Wyo., NY NW1/4 of Sec 30 Twp 1 N of R/ 15 E. (I don't believe this is the right one) 1890 Census Clifton Twp, Tra., MN June 1890 House 74 Family 75 Howell, James, Private Company L. Regiment 1 MO Cav. Enlisted 15 Jul 1861 Discharged 17 Feb 1864 Time served 2y 7m 2 d. WIFE NOTES: Sarah Jane LONAS General: James Howell was listed as Powell in the Md record Census 1895 Clifton, Tra., MN FHL film #565814 Howell, Sarah Jane 44 b. NY 5y, 11 m. Luther 26 b. IA resident farmer Laurenta 16 b. IA Albert 12 b. IA On her death record her mother is listed as Julany Commeneau and b. in Germany. CHILD NOTES: Frank Lavette HOWELL General: 1900 Census Wheaton, Minnesota Howell, Frank Husband W Male Dec 1866 33 m 7y. WI Mich NY farmer Y Y Y Mary Wife W Female Nov 1874 25 m 7y 3 ch. 3 ch. IA WI IA Y Y Y Grace dau W " Sep 1894 5 Minn WI IA Maud dau W Female Aug 1896 3 Minn WI IA Leroy son W male Jun 1898 1 Minn WI IA Sarah J. m-i-law W female Jul 1850 49 widow 5 liv. NY Ohio NY Y Y Y 1895 Census Clifton, Tra., MN FHL film #565814 Howell, Frank 28 y. b, WI 5 y, 11 m. farmer " Mary 20 y, IA resident " Grace 9/12 months MN CHILD NOTES: Luther HOWELL General: Admitted to the Fergus Falls State Hosp. 5/29/1901 and transferred to Anoka State Hosp. Buried through the Gearhart-Miller Funeral Home in Anoka. Their records showed that he was born in Iowa and his parents in NY. He was a farmer. He was buried at Hinckley, MN. 1900 Census Luther Howell Servant W Male Sep 1877 22 s. IA Mich. NY farmer/laborer N N N Family Group Sheet 11 Dec 2003 3 CHILD NOTES: Julianie HOWELL General: BURIAL: Julianne is buried in front of the church in Lac La Nonne. At the time the church had not been built. Her son, William, placed a small white concrete marker there. Julianne left a small autograph book. CHILD NOTES: Albert HOWELL General: 1900 Census Albert Howell lodger W M Jan 1882 18 single IA ? WI day laborer Y Y Y I have a listing for his father as James Aaron Howell. SOURCES 1. GEDCOM file submitted by Priscilla Haines. Created on 24 FEB 2003. Imported on 24 Feb 2003. 2. Index to the Marriage Records of Winnebago, WI, Register of marriages Winnebago Co., WI. 3. Census: 1870, Iowa, Bremer Co. State Census. 4. Deed Books for Bremer Co., Iowa Book " Q", P. 412, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book "Q", p. 154. 5. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book "Q", p. 266/7. 6. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book ?, p. ? unreadable!. 7. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 32, p. 79. 8. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 34, p. 299. 9. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 36, p. 295. 10. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 40, p. 221. 11. Ibid, Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 41, p. 151. 12. Index to the Marriage Records of Winnebago, WI, Index to the Marriage Records of Winnebago, WI. 13. Census: 1870, 1860 Census for Winneconne, WI. 14. Vital Records: Clifton, MN. 15. Deed Books for Bremer Co., Iowa Book " Q", P. 412. Bremer Co., Iowa, Book 39, p. 115 Land given to the children by Jacob Lonas at his death. Sarah Howell, Mary C. White and H. G. White, her husband sign the land over to Peter, their brother. 16. Census: 1900, Wheaton, Minnesota ED 285, sh 2, line 81. 17. Marriage certificate. 18. Census: 1900, Wheaton, Minnesota. 19. obit.

Hi family, Frankly cousins, this is a touchy issue for me as I have major reservations asking for money. However, fees for Howell Research are annual and each year our domain has to be paid for. The hosting fees are due January 2nd. To those cousins who joined us this year: our cyberhome, Howell Research Room <http://howellresearch.com>, is just what I said... OUR home. I only maintain the site. It's the combined family who pays to keep us in it. In this way, WE own the site ~ not just me... a. Whenever I want to do something major there I bring it to the family for a majority vote. b. I have promised the cousins, and now you, that I will never move our home without your knowing it first and why. c. Each cousin's information displayed there is treated as important to me as my own data. If we're to keep our home on the Web, the following fees need to be raised: The cost: $ 70 = anuual fees 20 = .net registration 20 = .org registration --- $110 outlay for howellresearch.com/.net/.org Please understand straight off ... NOBODY is REQUIRED to help support this effort. It is all voluntary and in no way will you be prevented from using the Room or any other site, page, etc. we may set up at Howell Research. If you would also like to contribute to this effort I will very humbly and gratefully accept any donations: Colleen Pustola P.O. Box 13154 Fort Carson, Colorado 80913 IF the donations exceed the required $110, I will roll those extra funds over toward our annual fees next year. I will NOT retain any of the funds for myself, but keep it all within the family to pay for our home. And now, I have a request to make. I intensely dislike having to ask everyone for money, albeit annually. I'd like to know if we have a bookkeeper/accountant-type cousin with us who is willing to take on this yearly task, sending notices to the family and coordinating the effort. If the above isn't acceptable, can anyone come up with an idea of taking care of this annual issue without my having to bring it up? Thanks, everybody. Colleen

How about we call KY and TN (at least the eastern areas) the Appalachians? Part of VA also. But as to starting in the Appalachians, not if they came from the British Isles. They came there from somewhere else. Naming patterns are something else again and carry a lot of meaning in their own right. I have another line (CARTER) that started out as Quaker in PA, with typical Quaker naming patterns. They moved southwest, ended up in WNC, married into other lines and a whole 'nother pattern of given names emerged. Anne (feeling sort of ornery tonight) ----- Original Message ----- From: <JPM6966@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:29 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] HOWELL NORTH AND SOUTH > Yes, my line also came from VA via KY, though I don't consider KY and VA > the south. :-) Of course since I live in southern FL nothing is "the south" > to me! :-) > > Pati > > 12/10/03 8:19:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, RonsHoms@aol.com writes: > > > I think you will find many HOWELL folks came through KY and TN thru the > > Cumberland Gap and then crossed north over the Ohio River to OH,IN,IL,MO and > > thence > > to other north and western states ...so just because you find them in the > > north they in fact may well have started in the south! Many of these people > > came > > out of VA, SC, NC and went on to KY &TN and also GA, &AL. > > > > I know my line came from KY to Perry Co IN and seemed to have been part of > > of > > a sizable group in Perry, Spencer and Clark Co IN. I suspect they came to > > Nelson Co KY from TN because I find similar naming patterns in these two > > areas. > > > > R Kellems > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. > > >

You make a valid point. I'd been thinking the same sort of thing and had not mentioned it. I would add however that these HOWELLs (and many other families) may well have arrived in PA and gone south through the Cumberland Gap, etc. Those who landed in Philadelphia typically took that route. But then--some of them just might have taken a turn to the north! Anne Haines ----- Original Message ----- From: <RonsHoms@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:18 PM Subject: [HOWELL] HOWELL NORTH AND SOUTH > I think you will find many HOWELL folks came through KY and TN thru the > Cumberland Gap and then crossed north over the Ohio River to OH,IN,IL,MO and thence > to other north and western states ...so just because you find them in the > north they in fact may well have started in the south! Many of these people came > out of VA, SC, NC and went on to KY & TN and also GA, & AL. > > I know my line came from KY to Perry Co IN and seemed to have been part of of > a sizable group in Perry, Spencer and Clark Co IN. I suspect they came to > Nelson Co KY from TN because I find similar naming patterns in these two areas. > > R Kellems > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > >

Yes, my line also came from VA via KY, though I don't consider KY and VA the south. :-) Of course since I live in southern FL nothing is "the south" to me! :-) Pati 12/10/03 8:19:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, RonsHoms@aol.com writes: > I think you will find many HOWELL folks came through KY and TN thru the > Cumberland Gap and then crossed north over the Ohio River to OH,IN,IL,MO and > thence > to other north and western states ...so just because you find them in the > north they in fact may well have started in the south! Many of these people > came > out of VA, SC, NC and went on to KY &TN and also GA, &AL. > > I know my line came from KY to Perry Co IN and seemed to have been part of > of > a sizable group in Perry, Spencer and Clark Co IN. I suspect they came to > Nelson Co KY from TN because I find similar naming patterns in these two > areas. > > R Kellems

I think you will find many HOWELL folks came through KY and TN thru the Cumberland Gap and then crossed north over the Ohio River to OH,IN,IL,MO and thence to other north and western states ...so just because you find them in the north they in fact may well have started in the south! Many of these people came out of VA, SC, NC and went on to KY & TN and also GA, & AL. I know my line came from KY to Perry Co IN and seemed to have been part of of a sizable group in Perry, Spencer and Clark Co IN. I suspect they came to Nelson Co KY from TN because I find similar naming patterns in these two areas. R Kellems

Pati, I'm interested in the given name Mahala. I have a Mahala although it is not in the Howell line: In fact on the opposite side of the family. She was Mahala RIGGS m. Elkanah LEWIS in Surry Co NC. Do you connect with either of these surnames, through HOWELL or NEWLAND? Okay, it's only a shot in the dark. One of my brick walls, I can't get back farther than Mahala Riggs, early 19th C. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: <JPM6966@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: [HOWELL] Re: Stephen and Mary > Hey Marcia! > I also descend from Stephen and Mary through their son Jesse and > Catherine Newland through their daughter Mahala Jane. > > Take care, > Pati > > 12/9/03 9:18:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, mgettelf@venus.net writes: > > > My Howells, came from Virginia to Southern Indiana. Stephen and Mary > > Howell. > > I'm still here. > > Marcia > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://howellresearch.com>.

Henry Howell Married Rachel Jane Richey in Scott County, Indiana on March 01,1848 the 1850 Census Scott County, Indiana Name Age Sex Occupation Place of Birth Henry Howell 19 M Farmer Indiana Rachel 20 F Indiana Matilda 4 F Indiana Jesse 1 Indiana ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------ 1860 Census Scott County, Indidna Name Age Sex Occupation Place of Birth Howell, Henry 26 M Farmer Indiana Rachael 28 F House Work Indiana Jesse 10 M Indiana Joseph 7 M Indiana Addeline 6 F Indiana Polly A 3 M Iowa Sichy C. 7/12 F Indiana The age of Both Henry & Rachel are not correct ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- Henry Howell Died at Bridgeport Alabama on February 13, 1864 . He is Buried at Chattanooga National Cemetery at Chattanooga, Tennessee Sec. H Grave # 10729 Rank Pvt. State: Indiana Jesse Howell is the line I am from He married in Washington County Indiana to Nancy Adaline Maness on April 18,1866 To this marrage were 2 Son`s (`1) William Franklin Howell Borb August 15, 1868 at Scott County Indiana (2) Marshall Jackson Howell Born abt.1876 at Scott County , Indiana Jesse Howell Died March 13,1879 in Scott County Indiana William Franklin Howell is my line He married Minnie Florence Hanna atEdgar County Illinois They had 7 children there 2nd child Jesse Evertt Howell was born November 11, 1894 at Kansas,Edgar County, Illinois . William Franklin Howell Died July 7, 1951 Jesse Evertt Howellis my Line . He marrier Wanda Lucille Ball at Coles County, Illinois on December 18, 1915 . They had 8 children Betty May Howell born Sept 29,1918 at Mattoon, Coles County, Illinois. Jesse Evertt Howell Died Febroary 13, 1975 at Mattoon, Illinois Betty May Howell Married William Eugene Hopper at Mattoon Coles County, Illinois on June 4,1937 I am 1 of 12 children Betty May ( Howell) Hopper Died February 6 2001 At Tucson, Pima County , Arizona. William Eugene Hopper Born August 28,1917 at Mattoon, Coles County, Illinois Died January 18, 1980 at Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona Robert E. Hopper

Do you have the wife's name and children?

Hey Marcia! I also descend from Stephen and Mary through their son Jesse and Catherine Newland through their daughter Mahala Jane. Take care, Pati 12/9/03 9:18:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, mgettelf@venus.net writes: > My Howells, came from Virginia to Southern Indiana. Stephen and Mary > Howell. > I'm still here. > Marcia

Hey Robert, That's interesting that your Henry Howell was born in Washington County,IN..... my Howell's are also from Washington County but I have no knowledge of a Henry, unfortunately. I descend from David Howell through his son Stephen and through Stephen's son Jesse. Good luck, Pati 12/9/03 8:54:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, NITE1LITE2@aol.com writes: > > > > Hi Carrie, > The Henry Howell family I am working on is from Ssott County Indiana and > moved ti clark &Edgar County Illinois then Coles County Illinois. Henry was > born in Washington County Indiana Abt.1829 . He died in the Civil War. Left > a > wife and 7 children . Don`t have his mother or father`s name YET!!!!! > I have almoer every one from him forward > > Robert E. Hopper

Hi Marcia, Your line Settled in Washington County. I have not been able to connect to this line . John Weirman Howell & William N Howell Sones of Jesse Howell and Catherine Newlon. Henry Howell Mustered into 81 st.Regiment, Company B, Indiana Volunteer Infantry on Aug. 16th 1862 giving there residence as Chestnut Hill . Henry Howell`s Wife is Rachel Jane Richey Robert E. Hopper

Hey Jeany, Thank you very much for the offer, that is so kind of you!! And yes, I will let you know if I ever need help with something in your area. :-) Take care, Pati 12/9/03 5:57:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, jroark1@tds.net writes: > Pati, > I am in Boone Co.Indiana and do Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness.If there > is anything I can look for here let me know. > Jeany

My Howells, came from Virginia to Southern Indiana. Stephen and Mary Howell. I'm still here. Marcia > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://howellresearch.com>. > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.548 / Virus Database: 341 - Release Date: 12/5/2003

Hi Carrie, The Henry Howell family I am working on is from Ssott County Indiana and moved ti clark & Edgar County Illinois then Coles County Illinois. Henry was born in Washington County Indiana Abt.1829 . He died in the Civil War. Left a wife and 7 children . Don`t have his mother or father`s name YET!!!!! I have almoer every one from him forward Robert E. Hopper

-----Original Message----- Perhaps you need Edward Howell 1584-1655 Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire....see ehfa.org for a web page with genealogy that needs add/correct from "Descendants of Edward Howell" by David Faris . 1985. For Edward Howell Family Assoc. newletter and annual meetings, send me your address. Patricia Batchelor Penning patricia.pen@earthlink.net. From: william & carrie hoffert <hoffert@mindspring.com> Sent: Dec 9, 2003 12:46 PM To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWELL] More Northern Howell Family lines Hi, I have noticed over time that this mailing list seems to deal primarily with Howells with origins from the Southern part of the US. I am descended from the Howell lineage with origins in the North, PA, New England, IL, OH areas. Is there a separate mailing list for reaching that portion of the Howell family members? If so what is that mailing list or how may I locate it. Thanks Carrie Bias Hoffert. ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those settings through their servers and will only return them to you.

Hey, count me in for another Northern Howell, although I too notice there are alot of southern & mid-western Howells. Here is my info. I did send this out in July, but it's worth re-sending as there may be new people. I have a Joel Howell, born 1832 and died about 1919 in Mattituck, Long Island, NY. Married to Phoebe (or Phebe) Hulduh Carter, (no other information on Phoebe other than birth year of 1834), on Sept 24, 1854 also in Mattituck. I was told they had 10 children, of which I have found the names of 9. As far as I can tell, all were born in Mattituck, Long Island, New York. They are as follows: Rinech H. Howell daughter Jan 03, 1856 Thomas Henry Howell son Dec 10, 1857 Silas Hawkins Howell son July 13, 1859 Joel Ernest Howell son July 17, 1866 Caroline Amanda Howell daughter Aug 14, 1868 Alfred VanBuren Howell son Feb 13, 1871 Cary Howell daughter unknown Sidney Howell daughter unknown Lila Howell daughter unknown ???? Howell unknown unknown Silas, (my great, great grandfather), married Lizzie Dunham Sept 1, 1886. All I know of Lizzie is she was born Oct 1, 1861 and died approx 1926-27 in Mattituck, LI, NY and they had 2 children. A daughter Caroline Carter Howell born 1894 in Mattituck, never married and a son, Raynor Dunham Howell (my great grandfather), born March 29, 1890. He married Grace Mary Winchester, (born July 19, 1892 in Syracuse, NY) on November 27, 1919 in Mattituck. Raynor died Sept 26, 1977 and Grace died April 30, 1981..both in Ballston Spa, NY. Lila had a daughter Carol Hallock born in early 1920's. Unsure if Hallock is maiden name or married name. Alfred married Bertha -unknown last name- and had a daughter named Katharine What I am really looking for is dates for Joel's children as I am missing some, as well as the name and sex of the 10th child. Also, I know Joel's parents are a Greshom H. Howell born May 28, 1804...not date of death and Lydia Conklin born Oct 8, 1800 died Dec 16, 1880. I have 4 children listed but I have no infomation on Greshom's parents or siblings. Some other bits of info....The house in Mattituck was designated a landmark in 1936 while my great grandfather's parents, (Silas & Phoebe) and his sister still lived in the house. It served as the British Headquarters during the Revolutionary Battle of LI. It was built in the late 1600's or very early 1700's by Richard Howell, but I have no clue how to connect Richard down the line, so I need to connect from Greshom on up. Would love to find someone researching the same line. Thanks...Kim Ambrosecchia -------Original Message------- From: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Date: 12/09/2003 02:52:54 PM To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWELL] More Northern Howell Family lines Hi, I have noticed over time that this mailing list seems to deal primarily with Howells with origins from the Southern part of the US. I am descended from the Howell lineage with origins in the North, PA, New England, IL, OH areas. Is there a separate mailing list for reaching that portion of the Howell family members? If so what is that mailing list or how may I locate it. Thanks Carrie Bias Hoffert. ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those settings through their servers and will only return them to you.

Pati, I am in Boone Co.Indiana and do Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness.If there is anything I can look for here let me know. Jeany