Hello: Thanks for writing. I don't have any information on this Irwin. Was your Mary Jane Howell a Howell or did she marry a Howell. The one I have was Mary Jane (Gennie) Howell, wife of Phillip Washington Wright, west Lauderdale County, Alabama, Wright Community. Thanks, SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: <EGNIWRI@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: [HOWELL] D.W. Irwin > I have a D. W. Irwin. He was Dee Wees Irwin. His mother > was Mary Jane Howell. Have never known where the name > came from. He was the oldest child, b. 1866, in N. Al. > > Any info.? > > egniwri@aol.com > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Yes, Jackie this is the correct family. Mary A. may be the correct child. If so, later in life she became Alice Beatrice. Thanks for your help. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jnshowl@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > In a message dated 12/27/2003 9:26:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > > > David W. Howell married Sarah Margaret Williams in Lauderdale County, > > Alabama in 1851. She died in Hardin County, Tennessee in 1877. > > > > This may or may not be the family, but pretty close. > Jackie Howell > > 1870 Hardin Co., Dist. 6, P.O. Savannah, enu. date 7/2/1870 > pg.411 source ancestry > household # 180 180 > 30 Howell David 43 MW farmer 6000 2000 AL > 31 Howell Sarah 34 FW keeping house AL > 32 Howell William 15 MW AL > 33 Howell Lillie 9 FW AL > 34 Wright Mary A. 3 FW AL > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >

Thanks for helping. The Howell's below are David W. Howell and wife Sarah Margaret Williams and son William (TEB). William is not old enough to be the father of Alice Beatrice Howell. 1870 Hardin County, Tennessee Census list a Mary B. or A. Wright living with them. She is 3 years old and could be the correct child. Thanks, SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jnshowl@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > In a message dated 12/27/2003 9:26:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, > stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > > > David W. Howell married Sarah Margaret Williams in Lauderdale County, > > Alabama in 1851. > > 1860 Lauderdale Co.,AL Western Division, P.O. Gravelly Springs, enu. date 22 > June 1860 pg. 135 source ancestry > household # 238 238 > 10 David Howell 31 M overseeing 400 AL > 11 Sarah Howell 23 F AL > 12 William Howell 5 M AL > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Hello Keith: Thanks for writing. I do need to look at the probate records of LCA and HCT. Since I posted the message I have had several people write. I do know that D.W. Howell had a sister that died in 1868. She was Mary Jane Howell and she married Phillip Washington Wright. There is a girl Mary A. or B. Wright living with Howell and his first wife in the 1870 HCT census. She is 3 years old and very well could be the correct child. I have some Wright information that list 2 children of Mary Jane (Gennie) Howell and P.W. Wright. They are Dora Etta 1865 and Mary Alice 1867. This Mary Alice could be the one on the 1870 Census but this one died in 1877. My Alice Beatrice married, had children and died in 1908. Thanks for any more help you might send. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: "keith d bailey" <kbailey@frontiernet.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > Steve, > Since Lauderdale and Hardin co. are right next to each other, I would > think that one of the counties would have a probate record where Alice was > warded to or adopted to D.W. Howell. Have you checked in the surrounding > counties? Have you posted to the Thomas list? Someone there might recognize > something. > > Keith Bailey > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >

In a message dated 12/27/2003 9:26:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > David W. Howell married Sarah Margaret Williams in Lauderdale County, > Alabama in 1851. 1860 Lauderdale Co.,AL Western Division, P.O. Gravelly Springs, enu. date 22 June 1860 pg. 135 source ancestry household # 238 238 10 David Howell 31 M overseeing 400 AL 11 Sarah Howell 23 F AL 12 William Howell 5 M AL

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Well that was not what I wanted to say.I ment if they were married 24 years before she was adopted she could be a grandaughter.If you have children from the 1860-70 census please post them.I also think you should look in probate for an adoption.Let us know how you are doing.I belong to Rootsweb's Random Acts of Genealogy Kindness (RAOGK) and we have lookup volunteers everywhere.So if you need some help let me know. Jeany At 10:28 AM 12/27/03 -0600, you wrote: >Thinking, >If David W.and Sarah were married 24 years before after they married maybe >she was a grandaughter! Do you have children for them in 1860 and 1870? >Jeany > > >==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== >To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >

In a message dated 12/27/2003 9:26:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > David W. Howell married Sarah Margaret Williams in Lauderdale County, > Alabama in 1851. She died in Hardin County, Tennessee in 1877. > This may or may not be the family, but pretty close. Jackie Howell 1870 Hardin Co., Dist. 6, P.O. Savannah, enu. date 7/2/1870 pg.411 source ancestry household # 180 180 30 Howell David 43 MW farmer 6000 2000 AL 31 Howell Sarah 34 FW keeping house AL 32 Howell William 15 MW AL 33 Howell Lillie 9 FW AL 34 Wright Mary A. 3 FW AL

Thinking, If David W.and Sarah were married 24 years before after they married maybe she was a grandaughter! Do you have children for them in 1860 and 1870? Jeany

HOWELL adoption in Hardin County, Tennessee continued---- David W. Howell married Sarah Margaret Williams in Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1851. She died in Hardin County, Tennessee in 1877. David W. Howell married Sarah Columbia (Palmer) Graham, widow of James Graham in 1880. Alice Beatrice Howell 13 (dau.) is on the 1880 Census with D.W. Howell. D.W. Howell 50 is listed as (Widower). Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham is not (yet) listed with the Howell family. Thanks for any help. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Cooper" <stevecooper75@comcast.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > Hello Jeany: > > Thank you for writing. > > Yes, I thought of that also, but according to the 1880 Census, Alice > (daughter) was in the household but (wid) D.W. Howell's 2nd wife, Sarah > Columbia Palmer Graham was not. > > Keep thinking, I need help with this one. > > SteveCooper > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john t roark" <jroark1@tds.net> > To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 7:14 AM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > > > > Alice might have been the daughter of this second wife and he adopted her > > when they married.Just a thought. > > Jeany > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://howellresearch.com>. >

Hello Jeany: Thank you for writing. Yes, I thought of that also, but according to the 1880 Census, Alice (daughter) was in the household but (wid) D.W. Howell's 2nd wife, Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham was not. Keep thinking, I need help with this one. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: "john t roark" <jroark1@tds.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 7:14 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > Alice might have been the daughter of this second wife and he adopted her > when they married.Just a thought. > Jeany > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Alice might have been the daughter of this second wife and he adopted her when they married.Just a thought. Jeany

Adoption information needed from 1860's or 1870's. Can anyone help or tell me how I might get help in finding out who were the parents of ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL ? In the 1880 Census of Hardin County, Tennessee she is listed as the daughter of D. W. Howell. Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace D. W. Howell self W Male W 50 AL Farmer ------- ------- Alice Howell Dau S Female W 13 AL Keeps House ------- AL Bob Howell other S Male W 20 TN Labor -------- ------- D.W. Howell is David W. Howell. He married Sarah Margaret Williams in 1851 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. Later he moved to Hardin County, Tennessee. She died and he married Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham, widow of James Graham. They later moved to Lauderdale County, Alabama. They died in Lauderdale County, Alabama and are buried at the Florence City Cemetery. ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL married JAMES BOYD THOMAS in Lauderdale County, Alabama in 1894. She died in 1908 and she and James are buried in the Florence City Cemetery also, with D.W. Howell and second wife Sarah C. Howell. The obituary in the local paper states that ALICE BEATRICE HOWELL was the adopted daughter of David W. Howell. Are there any records in Hardin County, TN. that might show who her birth parents were ? Any one have any ideas ? Thanks, SteveCooper

Hardin Co., TX Index to Probate Cases of Texas, No. 100. Hardin County, September 9, 1867 - March 18, 1939, Prepared by The Texas State-wide Records Project Division of Community Service Programs, Work Projects Administration, July 1941 Howell, R.E., deceased, May 2, 1921

Liberty County, Texas Liberty County, Texas, Marriage Records, Book A-B, 1875-1899, by Frances T. Ingmire, ©1985 Howell, Eliza m. Lewis, George 07/24/1879 Howell, Green m. Drewey, Jennie 02/28/1893 Howell, Levis m. Horn, Ettie 01/24/1878 Howell, Martin m. Smith, Laura 03/01/1878 Howell, Mathis m. Simmons, Alice 06/01/1893 Index to Probate Cases of Texas, No. 146. Liberty County, December 9, 1850 - July 28, 1939, Prepared by The Texas State-wide Records Project Division of Community Service Programs, Work Projects Administration, March 1941 Howell, Susan, deceased Feb. 18, 1902

Orange County, Texas Orange County, Texas, Cemetery Inscriptions, Volume 1, Compiled by Lorine Brinley, ©1985 Evergreen Cemetery Records Pg. 102 Howell Amand Eliza, b. 2 Nov. 1857, d. 17 May 1924 Daniel Webster, b. 14 July 1855, d. 29 June 1930 Fannie Collins, b. 18 Jan. 1883, d. 21 Sept. 1903 Thomas A., b. 1881, d. 1945 Wm. Henry, b. 25 Aug. 1879, d. 14 Nov. 1884

Chambers County, Texas Old River Country, A History of West Chambers County, by Flavia Stubbs Fleischman, Gateway Press, Inc. ©1999 Jim Howell, killed in battle, listed as a member of Company F, 5th Texas Hood's Brigade

Cemetery Inscriptions, Harris Co., Texas, Vol. 2, Compiled by Lorine Brinley ©1985 Hollywood Cemetery Howell, Emma E., b 18 Nov. 1880, d.20 Mar 1950 Mother Howell, Jonas N., b. 10 Oct 1872, d. 5 May 1948 Hill of Rest Cemetery, Baytown, Texas, Pub. Baytown Genealogical Society, 1999 Howell,? _____child, (death date is cut off at bottom of page but looks like 1940s) Lot owned by O.J. Howell Howell, Myrteel Allen, b Oct 7, 1913 d Sept 24, 1982 Marriage Records, Harris County, Texas, Vol. 1, 1837-1865, by Mrs. Marie Russell, ©1980 Robert F. Howell and Mary Thomas 3-17-1842 Manuel Cararado and Jane Howell 6-22-1842 William Howell and Matilda Burnet 2-09-1854 Harris County, Texas, Marriage Records, Vol. II, 1865-1881, by Marie Russell, ©1985 Joseph Payne and Frances Howell 4-12-1878 Lewis Lemmons (colored) and Hannah Howell (colored) 8-20-1871 Tom C. Reilly and Miss Mary G. Howell 2-24-1876 Paul U. Lee Funeral Home Records, Baytown, Texas, 1923-1951 by Dorothy Williams Dreyer with Eveann Ramsey Nicholson, Published by the Baytown Genealogical Society©1996 Pg. 43 Conn, Louise, married. Born 23 May 1886 in Orange, Texas. Died 4 March 1946. Father, D.W. Howell. Mother, Amanda Sellers Pg. 110 Howell, Cisro. Widow. Born 14 March 1860 in Henry Co. Ala. Died 22 Nov 1947. Father, Lize Howell born in Ala. Mother, Martha Walker, born in Ala. Informant; J.C. Howell of Goose Creek, Texas. Cem. Conroe, Texas Pg. 221 Turner, Infant. Daughter. Born & Died, 3 May 1947 in Goose Creek, Texas now known as Baytown, Texas. Father & Informant, William Joseph Turner born in Winnsboro, Texas. Mother, Dorothy Catherine Howell, born in Mobely, Missouri. Cem. Hill of Rest. Baytown, Texas

----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Howell To: colleen(howell) Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 1:31 PM Subject: help I have enjoyed getting the postings and need some help in making a posting . We are planning a reunion of descendants of George Noble Howell and Lorinda Hickman Howell. George was born march 13 1839,poss.NY and died sept28th 1882 in coon Rapids Iowa .Little is known of his origin, although we believe he was in Vance Township Illinois during 1860 census. Moved to Iowa around 1870. Reunion will be held in Atlantic Iowa june 11th-13th 2004. Reunion questions may be sent to rvhowell@netins.net Thank you and keep up the good work . Roger A Howell .

> A note of explanation here....I work in a large genealogy library in southern California. We have a very large Texas collection and I research the Howell surname in Texas on my own time. Judy: How nice of you to give of your time and to share the information. Thank you !