My husband just return from Iraq on Dec. 11 (which would have been my father-Howell's birthday). My husband's guard unit was activated on Jan. 28. This was the best Christmas present ever. Hopefully he is home for good, well at least until next time they activate them. Sheila Howell Schukert http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=she5876&I11.x=17&I11.y=12 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Priscilla Haines" <phaines@rockisland.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: [HOWELL] RE: son > I am curious. My son and wife and three children were with us for > Christmas too. We felt very blessed to have them here with us. He has > been flying in and out of Iraq for over a year and also into some of the > other scary places with the USAF. He gets shot at every time he lands. > Doesn't keep this mother calm! I wonder how many other Howell relatives > are involved in this War to keep the rest of us safe.. > > Priscilla > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >

I am curious. My son and wife and three children were with us for Christmas too. We felt very blessed to have them here with us. He has been flying in and out of Iraq for over a year and also into some of the other scary places with the USAF. He gets shot at every time he lands. Doesn't keep this mother calm! I wonder how many other Howell relatives are involved in this War to keep the rest of us safe.. Priscilla

Yes, this is the correct David W. and wife Sarah. This is his 1st wife. She died and he married Sarah Columbia Palmer Graham, widow of James Graham. David is listed as David Wilson when he married and also on Civil War Record. Newspaper articles show him as David William Howell in several different dates, except for one. My wife's family says he was David William Howell. My wife even has a brother named David William Wesson, after David William Howell. I can't prove it either way. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jnshowl@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 12:30 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > In a message dated 12/26/2003 11:58:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, > stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > > > He married Sarah Margaret Williams in 1851 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. > Steve is the same couple? > Jackie Howell > > Spouse 1: David Wilson Howell > Spouse 2: Sarah M. Williams > Marriage Date: 02 Mar 1851 > Marriage Place: Lauderdale > Performed By: M. G. > Surety/Perf. Name: W. B. Edwards > OSPage: 7 > Source Information: > Dodd, Jordan R. Early American Marriages: Alabama, 1800 to 1920. Orem, UT: > Ancestry, Inc., 1999. > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://howellresearch.com>. >

Yes, that is the son of David Howell. I have seen him listed as W.T., T.W., William and later in life as T.E.B. Never have figured out the TEB. He was Captain of a Riverboat in 1912 and was shot and killed by a man on another boat. This took place on the Green River near Evansville, Indiana, I think. I spend about 75% of my research time on these Howell and Wesson families of my wife. They are a lot of fun researching. David was the son of Phillip Howell and Mary Wesson of here in Lauderdale County, Alabama. They married here in 1825. I never have been able to trace the parents of Phillip Howell. Never have seen any post for their family except for the ones I have sent. Must not be anyone on the list that is related to them. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jnshowl@aol.com> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > In a message dated 12/27/2003 12:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, > stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > > > The Howell's below are David W. Howell and wife Sarah Margaret Williams and > > son William (TEB). > > > > Steve, > Did you note the TW or WT [I can remember which now] Howell living 2 houses > down from David Howell in the 1880 census? I kinda figured it might be his son > William. > Jackie Howell > ....and so the search continues > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. >

Thanks Dianne, I keep hugging him for all who have ask me to.He says I've passed a thousand hugs and he does think I have that many friends.I'll give him one more for you though. Jeany >

In a message dated 12/27/2003 7:14:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, EGNIWRI@aol.com writes: > Thanks again! Just maybe you'll know something about this > family. > > egniwri@aol.com > > Don't go fretting now, I have made a few blunders myself & it kinda stings. But that is where true genealogist will shine...they can admit a mixed up on a line & correct it. This is not my family line, I'm still stuck in Gates Co.,NC early 1800's, but since I do have some resources available to me...I choose to help others out when I can. Give me a little bit to see what I can dig up. Jackie Howell ...and the search continues

Thanks for answering my post. Lordy! Lordy! How I hate to apologize! I must have been dreaming. I mixed up my grandfather and my great grandfather. I really don't know how I managed to do that. To start over---- Samuel Irwin m. Mary Jane Howell, 14 Jan 1818, in Wilson Co., Tn. She was listed as Jencie Howell. Henry Howell was her surety. They procured land in Lawrence Co. Al., in 1818, and lived out their lives there. I have never been able to learn anything about this Howell family. The first son was William B. Irwin. It was his son who was named, Dee Wees! I still don't know anything about the Howell family of my great grandmother. Thanks again! Just maybe you'll know something about this family. egniwri@aol.com

My prayers are with him. Let him know I am thankful for what he does for me and all Americans. Dianne -----Original Message----- From: john t roark [mailto:jroark1@tds.net] Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:43 AM To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOWELL] grandson I wanted to let all of you and especially Colleen that my grandson surprised us and came home Christmas day from Iraq.It was the most wonderful Christmas I ever had.He will be home until Jan.3 then he is going back to Bagdad.He is a Military Policeman and in Special Services.He is working for a Green Beret and is going to be a Career Soldier.We are very proud of him as we are all of the young men fighting for our freedom.Please remember them in your prayers. Jeany in Indiana ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com

In a message dated 12/27/2003 12:11:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > The Howell's below are David W. Howell and wife Sarah Margaret Williams and > son William (TEB). > Steve, Did you note the TW or WT [I can remember which now] Howell living 2 houses down from David Howell in the 1880 census? I kinda figured it might be his son William. Jackie Howell ....and so the search continues

Thanks for the response! I know of no Irwins with this name. I know of no Howells with this name. The first son had to be named for someone. "Dee Wees". The first daughter was "Willie" for her father, "William". The second daughter was "Jessie". In our family, she had to be named for someone. And I think it must be in the Howell family, that these names came. Someday! egniwri@aol.com

Thanks, Jeany. I'd been back over the messages and couldn't figure out what you meant, so I'm glad to have it clarified. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "john t roark" <jroark1@tds.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 5:16 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > I'm sorry I ment to send that to the Ohroots list.This has been on going > for about three days.It really has me upset.I'm glad our Howell family have > great respect and consideration for each other. > Peace to all,Jeany

In a message dated 12/27/2003 12:17:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, EGNIWRI@aol.com writes: > I have a D. W. Irwin. He was Dee Wees Irwin. His mother > was Mary Jane Howell. Do you have any more info on his mother & father? If so, I'll see what I can dig up.

I'm sorry I ment to send that to the Ohroots list.This has been on going for about three days.It really has me upset.I'm glad our Howell family have great respect and consideration for each other. Peace to all,Jeany At 03:21 PM 12/27/03 -0500, you wrote: >Did I miss something? I haven't seen any negative messages come through on >the Howell-L list... > > > >> From: john t roark <jroark1@tds.net> >> Reply-To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:16:48 -0600 >> To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. >> Resent-From: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >> Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:13:30 -0700 >> >>> ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== >>> Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This >> infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >>> >> I am wondering if the two "girls" who have nothing better to do for the >> holidays than to bad mouth each other have ever read this at the bottom of >> most messages.I have so much to be thankful for this year I just can't >> understand why anyone wants to spend time hating one another.Please think >> about the boys who are overseas and the ones who will never come home to >> their families and give thanks for the family we have on this list. >> Peace and Love to all, >> Jeany >>> >> >> >> ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== >> To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to >> HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >> > >

>==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== >Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > I am wondering if the two "girls" who have nothing better to do for the holidays than to bad mouth each other have ever read this at the bottom of most messages.I have so much to be thankful for this year I just can't understand why anyone wants to spend time hating one another.Please think about the boys who are overseas and the ones who will never come home to their families and give thanks for the family we have on this list. Peace and Love to all, Jeany >

In a message dated 12/26/2003 11:58:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, stevecooper75@comcast.net writes: > He married Sarah Margaret Williams in 1851 in Lauderdale County, Alabama. Steve is the same couple? Jackie Howell Spouse 1:   David Wilson Howell Spouse 2:   Sarah M. Williams Marriage Date:   02 Mar 1851 Marriage Place:   Lauderdale Performed By:   M. G. Surety/Perf. Name:   W. B. Edwards OSPage:   7 Source Information: Dodd, Jordan R. Early American Marriages: Alabama, 1800 to 1920. Orem, UT: Ancestry, Inc., 1999.

We must have missed this, too. 'Don't know what is going on. Have a happy new year and take time to give thanks, esp. for all those giving their lives to keep this a free country. We will continue to pray for them and for our President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, bobbi ----- Original Message ----- From: "john t roark" <jroark1@tds.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 2:16 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > I'm sorry I ment to send that to the Ohroots list.This has been on going > for about three days.It really has me upset.I'm glad our Howell family have > great respect and consideration for each other. > Peace to all,Jeany > > > > At 03:21 PM 12/27/03 -0500, you wrote: > >Did I miss something? I haven't seen any negative messages come through on > >the Howell-L list... > > > > > > > >> From: john t roark <jroark1@tds.net> > >> Reply-To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 15:16:48 -0600 > >> To: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > >> Resent-From: HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >> Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2003 13:13:30 -0700 > >> > >>> ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > >>> Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This > >> infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > >>> > >> I am wondering if the two "girls" who have nothing better to do for the > >> holidays than to bad mouth each other have ever read this at the bottom of > >> most messages.I have so much to be thankful for this year I just can't > >> understand why anyone wants to spend time hating one another.Please think > >> about the boys who are overseas and the ones who will never come home to > >> their families and give thanks for the family we have on this list. > >> Peace and Love to all, > >> Jeany > >>> > >> > >> > >> ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > >> To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > >> HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com > >> > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://howellresearch.com>. >

Deweese is a common first name. Jeff

I have a D. W. Irwin. He was Dee Wees Irwin. His mother was Mary Jane Howell. Have never known where the name came from. He was the oldest child, b. 1866, in N. Al. Any info.? egniwri@aol.com

Hello Jeany: The 1860 Census for Lauderdale County, Alabama only lists one child, a son William (5). He would probably not be old enough in 1868 to have fathered the child, born in 1868. The obituary for Alice Beatrice Howell Thomas in the Florence paper says: Nov. 19, 1908 Mrs. Beatrice Howell Thomas, wife of J.B. Thomas. .......... the adopted daughter of David Howell of this city. NOTE: Adopted daughter Nov. 20, 1908 ........ Mrs. J.B. Thomas (nee Alice Howell) ................ Nov. 20, 1908 Mrs. Beatrice Thomas, wife of Mr. Jas. B. Thomas .............. Mrs. Thomas was a daughter of Mr. David Howell Alice Beatrice Howell may have been Mary A. Wright. See below. 1860 Lauderdale County, Alabama Census HOWELL David 31 M Sarah 23 F (This is Sarah Margaret Williams) William 5 M 1870 Census of Hardin County, Tennessee HOWELL David 43 M Sarah 34 F William 15 M Lillie 9 F (I think she married a Meadows) Wright, Mary A. 3 F 1880 Census Hardin County, Tennessee HOWELL D.W. M 50 self Alice F 13 daughter Bob M 20 other (This person unknown to me) Alice Beatrice Howell could have been Mary A. Wright. SteveCooper ----- Original Message ----- From: "john t roark" <jroark1@tds.net> To: <HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2003 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell adoption Hardin County, TN. > Thinking, > If David W.and Sarah were married 24 years before after they married maybe > she was a grandaughter! Do you have children for them in 1860 and 1870? > Jeany > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > HOWELL-L@rootsweb.com >

Steve, Since Lauderdale and Hardin co. are right next to each other, I would think that one of the counties would have a probate record where Alice was warded to or adopted to D.W. Howell. Have you checked in the surrounding counties? Have you posted to the Thomas list? Someone there might recognize something. Keith Bailey