Hi Shannon, I'm still lurking in the back ground and making a noise every now and then. You can reach me here or at [email protected] ( ; Jackie Howell > . Do you know if Jackie Howell who submitted > the information on Timothy Howell is on the mailing list. > >

I'll also sponsor a month. I agree that this needs to be settled as soon as possible so let's plan to upgrade at GEOCITIES and see how that works out. While testing and evaulating the upgradeded service, we (I really mean Colleen) can be checking out the work involved and the costs of a new domain. Even if we only stay with GEOCITIES for a few months, we need to ensure that the site can be accessed all the time by all who want to access it. ROB Robert G. Lewis EMAIL: [email protected] Searching: LEWIS; ALFORD; FINCH; HOGG; HOWELL; WINBORNE; VOLIVA and others Member: The National Genealogical Society; The North Carolina Genealogical Society; The Tar River Connections Genealogical Society; The Alford American Family Association

I will sponsor a month also at whatever Colleen choose to be the best and simplest for her to do.Let's just get this thing settled and get back to our research.Anything that we do cost money and those of us who can help are more than willing to carry the load so just let us know what it cost and where to send the check.I am a part of this family and we take care of each other.If you can't give money then just give your time,effort and love.That's what families are for. Jeany

Hello List, I am new to genealogy and joined this list on the 8th December. Since then I have only read messages about people in the USA. Do any of you have any interest in HOWELLs in the UK? Am I on the correct list? My greatgrandfather, James HOWELL, married my greatgrandmother,Susan ALLEN, on 25th Feb 1877 at St. Andrew's Parish Church, Manchester.His father was named as James HOWELL, cabinetmaker. The 1881 and 1891 censuses give his place of birth as Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire. I have been unable to find out when he came to Manchester, his correct birth c. 1856-8, or anything more about his father. Can anybody help? Best wishes, Linda

Dear Colleen and Family -- I haven't yet received today's Sunday Morning Coffee -- hope I'm not too late to add my two-cents worth to the discussion. I haven't read all the chat postings, but let's keep our family site online and accessible. We certainly don't want to be in the position of monitoring the size of our contribution files or the number of hits our site receives. Whether we stay with GeoCities, or develop a domain of our own, the cost of doing so will need to be shouldered by those cousins willing to do so. Although we've all reaped the benefits of Colleen's hard work, we surely recognize that some cousins are in a better position to sponsor the cost than others -- we're family, right? So, my vote ..... 1. Colleen's decision as to our site location, space requirements and the associated cost. 2. Colleen could check with GeoCities and see how much extra we have to pay to eliminate those irritating, pesky little ads! 3. We'll need twelve months worth of fees -- very soon -- so Colleen is assured of the sponsor contributions. We cousins commit to however much we can personally contribute to the cost of sponsorship. For example, if Colleen determines we need $15.00/month, no one person will be allowed to commit to more than one month's fee. On the other hand, if she's short the full twelve months, perhaps other cousins, who prefer to send her less than a full month, could send what they can afford, and they could be grouped together for that month. 4. Kristin's sponsor graphic is a tremendous idea: "When a cousin sponsors a month, put a small graphic on the front page of the web site acknowledging the gift. Perhaps the graphic can even be a link to the cousins home page or email address." And to further Kristin's suggestion: ... Or a short autobiography of the sponsor, which would let us all become more personally acquainted with our cousins. 5. Payment to made to Colleen by whatever method she prefers, but to be made very soon. Colleen: Regardless of your final decision -- Count me in. I'll sponsor a full month. (Hope I didn't ramble on too much, or reiterate what others might have already suggested.) -- Candi Beard Nation

My dear cousins, LOL I'm glad you all know that I work hard behind the scenes here, lol ... I don't think I can chalk this last faux pas off to it being a bad hair day for me! To our newbies ... You just received a copy of the Sunday Morning Coffee in your email. It actually did go out at 7:37 this morning, but it was too long and Rootsweb kicked it out of the system. I realized it hadn't gone through when the message from another cousin came out on the list saying she hadn't received hers yet. So, I got all rattled, and realized another family hadn't gotten theirs either! Guess what happened ... Yup! Wrong welcome to the wrong family!!! lol Here's the correct welcome for you: TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://geocities.com/howell_research>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have I ever done this before?... nope! lol I do apologize, cousins. It's being a loonnnggg day here all of a sudden! lol Colleen

Colleen, Wow that was a great site and I really enjoyed it. I might have found a connection to one of the lines. Do you know if Jackie Howell who submitted the information on Timothy Howell is on the mailing list. Her Timothy Howell had desendents who were in Hertford Co., North Carolina which is where the Howell's I am researching were located. Thanks Shannon Joyner

) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) CONTINUATION NEW YEAR'S TRADITIONS The beginning of the new year has been welcomed on different dates throughout history. The celebration of the new year is the oldest of all holidays. It was first observed in ancient Babylon about 4000 years ago. In the years around 2000 BC, the Babylonian New Year began with the first New Moon (actually the first visible cresent) after the Vernal Equinox (first day of spring). Their new year celebration was in March rather than in January, coinciding with the spring planting of crops. The Babylonian new year celebration lasted for eleven days. Each day had its own particular mode of celebration, but it is safe to say that modern New Year's Eve festivities pale in comparison. The Romans continued to observe the new year in late March, but their calendar was continually tampered with by various emperors so that the calendar soon became out of synchronization with the sun. In order to set the calendar right, the Roman senate, in 153 BC, declared January 1 to be the beginning of the new year. But tampering continued until Julius Caesar, in 46 BC, established what has come to be known as the Julian Calendar. It again established January 1 as the new year. But in order to synchronize the calendar with the sun, Caesar had to let the previous year drag on for 445 days. Although in the first centuries AD the Romans continued celebrating the new year, the early Catholic Church condemned the festivities as paganism. But as Christianity became more widespread, the early church began having its own religious observances concurrently with many of the pagan celebrations, and New Year's Day was no different. New Years is still observed as the Feast of Christ's Circumcision by some denominations. During the Middle Ages, the Church remained opposed to celebrating New Years. January 1 has been celebrated as a holiday by Western nations for only about the past 400 years. The tradition of using a baby to signify the new year was begun in Greece around 600 BC. It was their tradition at that time to celebrate their god of wine, Dionysus, by parading a baby in a basket, representing the annual rebirth of that god as the spirit of fertility. Early Egyptians also used a baby as a symbol of rebirth. Although the early Christians denounced the practice as pagan, the popularity of the baby as a symbol of rebirth forced the Church to reevaluate its position. The Church finally allowed its members to celebrate the new year with a baby, which was to symbolize the birth of the baby Jesus. The use of an image of a baby with a New Years banner as a symbolic representation of the new year was brought to early America by the Germans. They had used the effigy since the fourteenth century. The song, "Auld Lang Syne," is sung at the stroke of midnight in almost every English-speaking country in the world to bring in the new year. Partially written by Robert Burns in the 1700's, it was first published in 1796 after Burns' death. Early variations of the song were sung prior to 1700 and inspired Burns to produce the modern rendition. An old Scotch tune, "Auld Lang Syne" literally means "old long ago," or simply, "the good old days." In most cultures, people promise to better themselves in the following year, going so far as to write down their New Year's resolutions. The New Year, no matter when people have celebrated it, has always been a time for looking back to the past, and more importantly, forward to the coming year. It's time to reflect on the changes we want, or often need, if we're to have the motivation move forward. The making of New Year's resolutions dates back [again] to the early Babylonians. Popular modern resolutions might include the promise to lose weight or quit smoking. The early Babylonians' most popular resolution was to return borrowed farm equipment. Resolutions are a reflection of the Babylonians' belief that what a person does on the first day of the New Year will have an effect throughout the entire year. Think about that at the New Year's party! Ways of celebrating differ as well, according to customs and religions of the world. People in Moslem societies, for example, celebrate the new year by wearing new clothes. Southeast Asians release birds and turtles to assure themselves good luck in the twelve months ahead. Jewish people consider the day holy, and hold a religious ceremony at a meal with special foods. Hindus of India leave shrines next to their beds, so they can see beautiful objects at the start of the new year. Japanese prepare rice cakes at a social event the week before the new year. In the United States, the federal holiday is January first, but Americans begin celebrating on December 31. Sometimes people have masquerade balls, where guests dress up in costumes and cover their faces with masks. According to an old tradition, guests unmask at midnight. Many people watch television specifically to see Times Square in the heart of New York City. At one minute before midnight, a lighted ball drops slowly from the top to the bottom of a pole on one of the buildings. People count down at the same time as the ball drops. When it reaches the bottom, the new year sign is lighted. People hug and kiss, and wish each other "Happy New Year!" On January first, Americans visit friends, relatives and neighbors. There is plenty to eat and drink when you just drop in to wish your loved ones and friends the best for the year ahead. Many families and friends watch television together enjoying the Tournament of Roses parade which precedes the Rose Bowl football game in Pasadena California. Football is the name of the game on New Year's Day in the U.S. Across America TV sets are turned on to the Orange Bowl game in Florida, the Cotton Bowl in Texas, and the Sugar Bowl in Louisiana. Traditionally, it was thought that one could affect the luck they would have throughout the coming year by what they did or ate on the first day of the year. For that reason, it has become common for folks to celebrate the first few minutes of a brand new year in the company of family and friends. Parties often last into the middle of the night after the ringing in of a new year. It was once believed that the first visitor on New Year's Day would bring either good luck or bad luck the rest of the year. It was particularly lucky if that visitor happened to be a tall dark-haired man. Traditional New Year foods are also thought to bring luck. Many cultures believe that anything in the shape of a ring is good luck, because it symbolizes "coming full circle," completing a year's cycle. For that reason, the Dutch believe that eating donuts on New Year's Day will bring good fortune. Many parts of the U.S. celebrate the new year by consuming black-eyed peas. These legumes are typically accompanied by either hog jowls or ham. Black-eyed peas and other legumes have been considered good luck in many cultures. The hog, and thus its meat, is considered lucky because it symbolizes prosperity. Cabbage is another "good luck" vegetable that is consumed on New Year's Day by many. Cabbage leaves are also considered a sign of prosperity, being representative of paper currency. In some regions, rice is a lucky food that is eaten on New Year's Day. Whatever the custom, most of people feel the same sentiment. With a new year, we can expect a new life. We wish each other good luck and promise ourselves to do better in the following year. It's family ... and that's what we're all about. I so enjoyed spending this time with you today. Thank you for sharing it with me. I wish each of you a week filled with health, productivity, fun, and above all, filled with love and inner peace. Happy New Year! :) ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. Boxing Day 3. Kwanzaa 4. New Year's Traditions (in part 2) TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Bower[s]/Bauer, Baur or Bowra lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Bower[s]/Bauer, Baur or Bowra ancestors or any of the 81+ variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. If you haven't visited the homesite of this list yet, you are encouraged to do so. Our home is Bower Community, located at <http://bowercommunity.com>. There, we currently have two sites: The Bower Family Homestead [a.k.a., the Homestead] is our primary homesite and the gathering place for much of our information. It waits to join us all in welcoming you into the family at <http://bowercommunity.com/homestead>. Smaller is our sister site, the Bower Cottage, which houses most of our projects including an online GEDCOM fed by cousins from our research groups. Find the Cottage is at <http://bowercommunity.com/cottage>. BOXING DAY December 26th, Boxing Day. Boxing Day??? Have you even heard of it before now? Does the name of this British holiday make you think of people doing something with boxes ~ ridding their homes of an excess of wrappings and mountains of now useless cardboard boxes the day after St. Nick arrived to turn a perfectly charming and orderly home into a maelstrom of discarded tissue paper? Possibly the masses are returning unwanted gifts to the stores they came from, hence its common association with hauling about boxes on the day after Christmas? Or maybe they're engaging in the pugilistic sport? Nope, sorry. You're wrong on all counts. Not many people in the world realize that there's even such a thing as Boxing Day, let alone the reason for a legal holiday so named. But, you should also know that even though Boxing Day is celebrated in Australia, Britain, New Zealand, and Canada, not all that many in those countries have much of a notion as to why they get December 26th off. It just isn't a well understood holiday. Only in the last century has it become a holiday. I might also mention here that some celebrate it on the first weekday following Christmas. So, if Christmas falls on Friday or Saturday Boxing Day would be on Monday. Let's shed a little bit of light on this day... Boxing Day's roots can be traced to Britain, where it's also known as St. Stephen's Day. (Saint Stephen was a little known saint who achieved eternal fame by being the first Christian to be martyred for his faith, and he met his death by stoning.) Servants were required to work on Christmas. They were responsible for making the holiday run smoothly for wealthy landowners. They were allowed to take leave on December 26th and visit their families. The employers gave each servant a box containing gifts and bonuses. Gifts among equals were exchanged on or before Christmas Day, but those less fortunate received them the day after. In addition, around the 800's churches opened their alms boxes (boxes where people place monetary donations) and distributed the contents to poor. How the name 'Boxing Day' came about is still disputed. The holiday may date from the Middle Ages (A.D. 400's-1500's), but the exact origin is unknown. Following are the several theories: Some say the tradition stems from Roman times when money to pay for athletic games was collected in boxes. Amongst the ruins of Pompeii, boxes made out of earthenware with slits in the top full of coins have been found. Later the Romans brought the idea of collecting boxes to Britain, and monks and clergy soon used similar boxes to collect money for the poor at Christmas. On the day after Christmas, the priests used to open the boxes and distribute the contents to the poor of the village. The contents of this alms box originated with the ordinary folks in the parish who were thus under no direct obligation to provide anything at all and were certainly not tied to the recipients by a employer/employee relationship. In this case, the "box" in "Boxing Day" comes from that one gigantic lock box the donations were left in. Centuries ago, ordinary members of the merchant class gave boxes of food and fruit to tradespeople and servants the day after Christmas in an ancient form of Yuletide tip. These gifts were an expression of gratitude to those who worked for them, in much the same way that one now tips the paperboy an extra $20 at Christmastime or slips the building's superintendent a bottle of fine whisky. Those long-ago gifts were done up in boxes, hence the day coming to be known as "Boxing Day." Christmas celebrations in the old days entailed bringing everyone together from all over a large estate, thus creating one of the rare instances when everyone could be found in one place at one time. This gathering of his extended family, so to speak, presented the lord of the manor with a ready-made opportunity to easily hand out that year's stipend of necessities. Thus, the day after Christmas, after all the partying was over and it was almost time to go back to far-flung homesteads, serfs were presented with their annual allotment of practical goods. Who got what was determined by the status of the worker and his relative family size, with spun cloth, leather goods, durable food supplies, tools, and whatnot being handed out. Under this explanation, there was nothing voluntary about this transaction; the lord of the manor was obligated to supply these goods. The items were chucked into boxes, one box for each family, to make carrying away the results of this annual restocking easier. Thus, the day came to be known as "Boxing Day." Many years ago, on the day after Christmas, servants in Britain carried boxes to their masters when they arrived for the day's work. It was a tradition that on this day all employers would put coins in the boxes, as a special end-of-the-year gift. In a closely related version of this explanation, apprentices and servants would on that day get to smash open small earthenware boxes left for them by their masters. These boxes would house small sums of money specifically left for them. This dual-versioned theory melds the two previous ones together into a new form; namely, the employer who was obligated to hand out something on Boxing Day, but this time to recipients who were not working the land for him and thus were not dependent on him for all they wore and ate. The "box" thus becomes something beyond ordinary compensation (in a way goods to landed serfs was not), yet it's also not a gift in that there's nothing voluntary about it. By this theory, the boxes are an early form of Christmas bonus, something employees see as their entitlement. Whichever theory you choose to accept, the one thread common to all is the theme of one-way provision to those not inhabiting the same social level. As mentioned previously, equals exchanged gifts on Christmas Day or before, but lessers (be they tradespeople, employees, servants, serfs, or the generic "poor") received their "boxes" on the day after. Note that the social superiors did not receive anything back from those they gave to. A gift in return would have been seen as a presumptuous act of laying claim to equality, the very thing Boxing Day was an entrenched bastion against. Boxing Day was, after all, about preserving class lines. Today, Boxing Day is celebrated much differently. In England, the holiday has evolved into a celebration of the family. Few people have servants but the custom of giving gifts or money to those who provide service continues. Since Christmas Day is spent at home with your family, Boxing Day is the day spent visiting grandparents. It is also popular to shop (the after Christmas discounts begin). Since World War II, there's always some sports event happening. It's considered a day of people getting out and doing things, hence Boxing Day became associated with horse-racing (St. Stephen is the patron saint of horses) and hunting, soccer and rugby. The day is celebrated with creamed teas, high teas and more. KWANZAA December 26th also starts a second holiday. Kwanzaa, an African-American festive, non-religious holiday observed by African communities throughout the world celebrates family, community, and culture. It is a seven day celebration that continues through January 1. Derived from the Swahili phrase "matunda ya kwanza" which means "first fruits," Kwanzaa is rooted in the ancient first harvest celebrations practiced in various cultures in Africa. However, its modern history begins in 1966 when it was developed by African-American scholar and activist Maulana Karenga. Kwanzaa is organized around five fundamental activities common to other African first-fruit celebrations: (1) the gathering of family, friends, and community; (2) reverence for the creator and creation (including thanksgiving and recommitment to respect the environment and heal the world); (3) commemoration of the past (honoring ancestors, learning lessons and emulating achievements of African history); (4) recommitment to the highest cultural ideals of the African community (for example, truth, justice, respect for people and nature, care for the vulnerable, and respect for elders); and (5) celebration of the "Good of Life" (for example, life, struggle, achievement, family, community, and culture). Africans and African-Americans of all religious faiths and backgrounds practice Kwanzaa. Kwanzaa is celebrated through rituals, dialogue, narratives, poetry, dancing, singing, drumming and other music, and feasting. A central practice is the lighting of the seven candles of Kwanzaa. One candle is lit each day for each of the Seven Principles. These principles are unity, self-determination, collective work and responsibility, cooperative economics, purpose, creativity, and faith. Gifts are exchanged. On 31 December participants celebrate with a banquet of food ~ often cuisine from various African countries. Participants greet one another with "Habari gani" which is Kiswahili for "How are you?" ~~CONTINUED~~

Hi family, You know... some days it just doesn't pay to be so efficient! <g> Did any of you see today's Coffee? No? Well, that's because it didn't squeeze through Rootsweb's servers. lol I sent the Coffee out at 7:37 this morning and just realized that it hadn't gone through. (Thanks to cousin Candi for mentioning she hadn't received the Coffee!) It will follow this message shortly... Colleen

This is the suggestion that makes the most sense to me. Marcia Hicks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Graham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 7:20 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] CHAT: GEOCITIES WOES > Hi Colleen and Family, > > I first want to join with the others to thank Colleen for the wonderful job > she's doing with the Howell List and the Howell Family WebSite. The tree > was a brilliant idea. Thank you Colleen for all you do for our family! > > I've been lurking on this discussion to see what others are thinking, > because it wasn't clear to me what choice made the most sense. But several > messages (Jeany's, Micki's, and others) go along the same line: basically > saying let's pay for what we need. That's easier for some of us than > others. Also, if folks just send in money, a few dollars here and a few > there, there may be enough and there may not. Colleen will have to ask us > for money every time the pot gets low. > > Let me throw this out as a suggestion and hear some feedback. It looks to > me like we need to go to a more expensive GeoCities package (no ads) that > will provide us with what we need. This would be up to Colleen to decide > what will work. Then 12 of us need to step up and be a sponsor for a month > to carry us through the coming year. As we approach the year 2003 a call > for 12 sponsors (repeats or new) can go out to cover the cost for the next > year. Some cousins may want to team up to sponsor a month. > > I'll pledge to cover the cost of one month for whatever package Colleen > thanks we need. > > How we get money to her is another issue. Someone suggested PayPal. > Whatever works for Colleen is fine with me. > > HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! > > andy graham > gggrandson of John Calvin Howell (1818-1906) and Louisa McMillan > (1821-1876) > of Grayson Co VA, Ashe Co NC, Grant Co. OR > > Colleen Pustola wrote: > > > Hi again family, > > > > I can tell this is going to be a major topic of discussion for us. Not > > even a full hour has gone by and already six of you have emailed me. > > > > I need to tell you the support is *extremely* appreciated. But you need > > to tell me (and each other) just what it is you're supporting and in > > favor of. > > > > Do you... > > > > * Want to stay at GeoCities and upgrade to one of their packages? > > * Want to get out of GeoCities and open our own domain? > > * Want to leave things as they are? :) > > * Want me to find another free site that can handle our traffic and data > > transfer rate? > > > > Please cousins, you must be specific or I won't know what you want; > > neither will the rest of the family. > > > > The first message should reach everyone by Saturday, giving all a chance > > to read it. Hopefully, I'll be able to give you your decision at > > Sunday's Coffee and we go from there. If I don't hear from enough of > > you by Saturday night, then I'll hold over until next week sometime. > > > > Thanks everyone. > > > > Colleen > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > >

Cousins, I had read a couple of emails today and there was mention of a web site. Can someone please give me the address I would like to view it. Thanks Shannon Joyner

Hi Linda, Welcome to genealogy and especially to the family!!! Yes, you're very much on the correct list. :) We have Howell/Howle cousins with us from around the world. If you don't get any responses from one of our British cousins, why not try listing the children of this couple? The premise is ~ someone may not extend from James Howell, but from one of his brothers or sisters. You want to give as many names as possible in the off-chance that an indirect link will be where a direct one isn't. :) Also, have you acquired James' death certificate? It may give you the information you're seeking. I hope this has helped you, even a little. I also hope this finds you having a SUPER Sunday! :) Colleen Linda Fawcett wrote: > > Hello List, > I am new to genealogy and joined this list on the 8th December. Since then I have only read messages about people in the USA. > Do any of you have any interest in HOWELLs in the UK? > Am I on the correct list? > > My greatgrandfather, James HOWELL, married my greatgrandmother,Susan ALLEN, on 25th Feb 1877 at St. Andrew's Parish Church, Manchester.His father was named as James HOWELL, cabinetmaker. > The 1881 and 1891 censuses give his place of birth as Stoke On Trent, Staffordshire. > I have been unable to find out when he came to Manchester, > his correct birth c. 1856-8, > or anything more about his father. > > Can anybody help? > Best wishes, > Linda > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://www.geocities.com/howell_research>.

Hi Shannon, The Web site everyone is referring to is our homesite, the Howell Research Room at <http://www.geocities.com/howell_research>. We've been having problems with GeoCities because they keep locking us out due to excessive data transfers (we're using our site too much!). The discussion you've been reading about is whether or not to move our site to our own domain or another free ISP. Our family Christmas tree (complete with gifts from Santa) is online now so you'll want to be sure to check that out, as well. To do so, simply click on the "To the tree!" link on the front page of our home. I hope you're having a SUPER Sunday! :) Colleen List Manager [email protected] wrote: > > Cousins, > I had read a couple of emails today and there was mention of a web site. Can > someone please give me the address I would like to view it. > > Thanks > Shannon Joyner > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>.

Let's go one step further on the sponsorship idea... When a cousin sponsors a month, put a small graphic on the front page of the web site acknowledging the gift. Perhaps the graphic can even be a link to the cousins home page or email address. If the sponsor wants to remain anonymous, the there can be a graphic to that effect. It's a great way to honor an ancestor, too! My great-grandmother got me into genealogy, so I would probably want to sponsor the web site during her birth month. Kristen > Hi Colleen and Family, > > I first want to join with the others to thank Colleen for the wonderful job > she's doing with the Howell List and the Howell Family WebSite. The tree > was a brilliant idea. Thank you Colleen for all you do for our family! > > I've been lurking on this discussion to see what others are thinking, > because it wasn't clear to me what choice made the most sense. But several > messages (Jeany's, Micki's, and others) go along the same line: basically > saying let's pay for what we need. That's easier for some of us than > others. Also, if folks just send in money, a few dollars here and a few > there, there may be enough and there may not. Colleen will have to ask us > for money every time the pot gets low. > > Let me throw this out as a suggestion and hear some feedback. It looks to > me like we need to go to a more expensive GeoCities package (no ads) that > will provide us with what we need. This would be up to Colleen to decide > what will work. Then 12 of us need to step up and be a sponsor for a month > to carry us through the coming year. As we approach the year 2003 a call > for 12 sponsors (repeats or new) can go out to cover the cost for the next > year. Some cousins may want to team up to sponsor a month. > > I'll pledge to cover the cost of one month for whatever package Colleen > thanks we need. > > How we get money to her is another issue. Someone suggested PayPal. > Whatever works for Colleen is fine with me. > > HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! > > andy graham > gggrandson of John Calvin Howell (1818-1906) and Louisa McMillan > (1821-1876) > of Grayson Co VA, Ashe Co NC, Grant Co. OR > > Colleen Pustola wrote: > >> Hi again family, >> >> I can tell this is going to be a major topic of discussion for us. Not >> even a full hour has gone by and already six of you have emailed me. >> >> I need to tell you the support is *extremely* appreciated. But you need >> to tell me (and each other) just what it is you're supporting and in >> favor of. >> >> Do you... >> >> * Want to stay at GeoCities and upgrade to one of their packages? >> * Want to get out of GeoCities and open our own domain? >> * Want to leave things as they are? :) >> * Want me to find another free site that can handle our traffic and data >> transfer rate? >> >> Please cousins, you must be specific or I won't know what you want; >> neither will the rest of the family. >> >> The first message should reach everyone by Saturday, giving all a chance >> to read it. Hopefully, I'll be able to give you your decision at >> Sunday's Coffee and we go from there. If I don't hear from enough of >> you by Saturday night, then I'll hold over until next week sometime. >> >> Thanks everyone. >> >> Colleen >> >> ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== >> Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other >> enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those >> settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Hi Colleen and Family, I first want to join with the others to thank Colleen for the wonderful job she's doing with the Howell List and the Howell Family WebSite. The tree was a brilliant idea. Thank you Colleen for all you do for our family! I've been lurking on this discussion to see what others are thinking, because it wasn't clear to me what choice made the most sense. But several messages (Jeany's, Micki's, and others) go along the same line: basically saying let's pay for what we need. That's easier for some of us than others. Also, if folks just send in money, a few dollars here and a few there, there may be enough and there may not. Colleen will have to ask us for money every time the pot gets low. Let me throw this out as a suggestion and hear some feedback. It looks to me like we need to go to a more expensive GeoCities package (no ads) that will provide us with what we need. This would be up to Colleen to decide what will work. Then 12 of us need to step up and be a sponsor for a month to carry us through the coming year. As we approach the year 2003 a call for 12 sponsors (repeats or new) can go out to cover the cost for the next year. Some cousins may want to team up to sponsor a month. I'll pledge to cover the cost of one month for whatever package Colleen thanks we need. How we get money to her is another issue. Someone suggested PayPal. Whatever works for Colleen is fine with me. HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! andy graham gggrandson of John Calvin Howell (1818-1906) and Louisa McMillan (1821-1876) of Grayson Co VA, Ashe Co NC, Grant Co. OR Colleen Pustola wrote: > Hi again family, > > I can tell this is going to be a major topic of discussion for us. Not > even a full hour has gone by and already six of you have emailed me. > > I need to tell you the support is *extremely* appreciated. But you need > to tell me (and each other) just what it is you're supporting and in > favor of. > > Do you... > > * Want to stay at GeoCities and upgrade to one of their packages? > * Want to get out of GeoCities and open our own domain? > * Want to leave things as they are? :) > * Want me to find another free site that can handle our traffic and data > transfer rate? > > Please cousins, you must be specific or I won't know what you want; > neither will the rest of the family. > > The first message should reach everyone by Saturday, giving all a chance > to read it. Hopefully, I'll be able to give you your decision at > Sunday's Coffee and we go from there. If I don't hear from enough of > you by Saturday night, then I'll hold over until next week sometime. > > Thanks everyone. > > Colleen > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you.

Hi: You are probably right. My wife says that I am always wrong. I just don't see , in something where we want everyone seeing our messages and information, not being able to get it without an invitation. There may be someone out there that has some of my Howell relatives online on myfamily.com, but their web page is about another surname and I miss it because I don't know it's there. It might be under JONES or SMITH and I don't know it. Didn't mean to stir up so much trouble. Steve Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: RE: geo cities mess Steve Actually, I have passwords on two sites like you are talking about and I found the people who sent me an invitation through roots web. Once I started corresponding with them they sent invites and I do the same when I find others who are not on the site. I have found the members on these sites to be even more helpful and friendlier than people you run across using some of the search engines, etc. There are a ton of features available too. My experience is that this is where the most experience and knowledgeable people can often be found. A fellow at one of these sites emailed me a 60 page descendancy with over 1400 direct descendants on it just to try and help me narrow down a possibility of one connection.

Colleen: Roots Web works for me since so many of us use it regularly anyway. However, I'd be perfectly happy to go along with whatever works best for you. After all, you are the driving force and the one who puts in the time. Jack Howell

Our site is a success because we try to help each other. It brings families together. We dont just discard the information because it doesn't pertain to our line. Any one that finds information pertaining to another ones line posts it. Isn't that what family is,helping each other. We have quite a few different lines on our site. We all put in time and hard work to keep our site going. Any one we find that is researching that line is asked to join, and any time information is posted everyone recieves an email showing the new post.Any way it was just a suggestion. If someone doesn't wont to join then they dont have to. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cooper Steve" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Chat:Geocities woes > Why does anyone want a family tree site that no one can get to without > having a password. If I am doing research for my family tree, my findings > are usually by luck and hard work. There is no luck in finding information > on myfamily.com . If I find that someone is related then I can swap > information with them without seeing myfamily.com information. > > There may be people that have just what I need at myfamily .com, but since I > don't know of their web site at myfamily.com and don't know of the person, I > may never know they have what I need. If I learn of them, myfamily .com is > not necessary. > > Sorry, just the way I feel. How about others, maybe I am wrong. > > Steve Cooper > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brenda Clayton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:02 AM > Subject: [HOWELL] Chat:Geocities woes > > > > Has anyone considered doing a family site on myfamily.com. I'm on a family > site with them and it is great. We post pictures information,files,and no > problem. You have to have a password but all it takes is an invite to be in > it but any member can do it. Colleen could also keep her web site. It would > just take some of the burden off of her. and its free. > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Why does anyone want a family tree site that no one can get to without having a password. If I am doing research for my family tree, my findings are usually by luck and hard work. There is no luck in finding information on myfamily.com . If I find that someone is related then I can swap information with them without seeing myfamily.com information. There may be people that have just what I need at myfamily .com, but since I don't know of their web site at myfamily.com and don't know of the person, I may never know they have what I need. If I learn of them, myfamily .com is not necessary. Sorry, just the way I feel. How about others, maybe I am wrong. Steve Cooper ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Clayton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: [HOWELL] Chat:Geocities woes > Has anyone considered doing a family site on myfamily.com. I'm on a family site with them and it is great. We post pictures information,files,and no problem. You have to have a password but all it takes is an invite to be in it but any member can do it. Colleen could also keep her web site. It would just take some of the burden off of her. and its free. > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. > >