) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. Family Christmas 3. Protecting yourself (and your loved ones) from the Web 4. Protecting your genealogy from the Web TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://geocities.com/howell_research>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. FAMILY CHRISTMAS Either way, good or bad, I need some feedback please on our family Christmas so I'll know whether or not we want to do this again. One thing though, we will definitely have to start the project earlier with an earlier deadline. If we continue to have family Christmases I know they'll get bigger as the years go by because everyone will have a better idea of what to give the family. So, do we plan to make family Christmas an annual event? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ January is the month I dedicate to our newbies. I chose January simply because after Christmas all those brand-new computing genealogists are donning their Web bikinis and jumping in to try out the cyberspace waters. Their eyes are wide with the excitement of all this new technology and information directly at their fingertips. But, our newbies (and maybe some novices) need to learn a few of the ways of computing genealogy. It's really exciting to come online after hearing so much hype about how much information there is ... and it's true! There really IS a load of information on the Web. To this end, today I'll pass along two very important guidelines all online genealogists need to know. For those experienced computing genealogists, simply consider this Coffee one for you to think about... NEWBIES: PROTECTING YOURSELF (AND YOUR LOVED ONES) FROM THE WEB Read this: "I believe in free genealogy and sharing as much information as I have with others." Now read this: "When I bought my first computer I had put together "books" on each family line. Foolishly, I sent copies of all my research to anyone I could find also working on these lines. Even people I have never met. I printed out copies of everything I had, including all living relatives, (aunts, uncles, cousins, my children, etc..) never dreaming it would be misused. "I often send unfinished manuscripts to people because they contain my notes which substantiates what I've claimed and tells them where I've already been. I never thought about someone using my mother's maiden name for illegal means." "Not long ago I found a webpage with information that had been copied from my private research. Back in the mid 1980s, I was collecting everything I could find to put together a book ... This web page contained relatives I had been able to trace, through years of going to MS, interviewing people and reading court records. It also included my living relatives, even giving my own maiden name, which I have never used, having been raised by foster parents." The statements you have just read above are not hypothetical, but were made by victims ~ genealogists just like you and me. Their messages are in Rootsweb's archives. It is one thing to believe in free genealogy and sharing it with others; I do. However, it is totally another story when it comes to passing information around about you, your children and other living relatives. Once someone has taken information about you or your living family, you are then at their mercy ~ hoping that person is wise enough not to pass your information around. Sadly, many times that isn't the case. This Coffee could be one of _THE_ most important lessons you learn regarding computing genealogy. First, foremost and utmost... protect yourselves and your family. When you took up doing your family history you assumed a responsibility. As never before is attention to this responsibility more necessary than now. With the advent of cyberspace came identity thieves who before the days of computering, would walk through cemeteries or dig through trash cans to get information about people. Now, all they have to do is go online to get it and they're handed full histories through unwary family historians. What is the most common password your creditors ask for? ...isn't it your mother's maiden name? And didn't you, in all truth and innocence, give your creditor that name? With that one piece of information alone, a good identity thief can compromise your entire credit history. With your name and birthdate an identity thief can get a birth certificate, a social security card, a driver's license and ... well, you get my drift here. As genealogists and Web researchers, it is our responsibility to protect the data on those relatives who are still living. Online family histories and queries for more information never need to include living relatives because we don't research the living. When we publicize personal data about those still living, we inadvertently compromise their security and THAT isn't what we're all doing research for. At no time should any of us *ever* publish material on the Web about our living family. A good rule of thumb is to stop at your grandparents ONLY if they have passed on; otherwise stop with your great-grandparents. It is of little benefit to genealogical research include information about your parents or your children on the web. We're all taught and drilled to research the historical; let's keep it that way on this list and at all our websites. Does this stuff REALLY happen? You bet it does. If you'll do a little Web surfing you'll find warnings are out regarding this. To read more on the subject of identity theft, you might want to start here <http://www.consumer.gov/idtheft/>. Afterward, you might consider reading this one <http://www.consumerinfo.com/n/su98_d.htm> and this one <http://www.senioranswers.org/Pages/aarp_iqtest.htm>. Following that, do a Web search for "identity theft" +genealogy. I think you're going to be quite surprised if you're not already up on the subject. It's true ~ unless we live in a vacuum, none of us will ever complete control over our personal information, so we'll never be totally immune to fraud. But why help things along and make it easy for someone to impersonate you? If you wouldn't post your background on your local grocery store's bulletin board, don't put it on the Internet ~ the world's bulletin board. Con artists are checking it out, whether you choose to believe it or not. Family IS what we're all about. However, let's not be careless with what we know about those still with us, including ourselves. NEWBIES: PROTECTING YOUR GENEALOGY FROM THE WEB! Now, I want to address the excitement of finding your entire ancestry (or a good portion of it) splayed out on a website... the very lines you've been working on for so long... and there it is! EVERYTHING ~ the dates, places, wives last names .... THE WHOLE WORKS! WHAT A GOLDMINE! Dearest Newbie: It's crucially important that you rein in that excitement you're feeling at that moment and remember this next critical lesson: just as you would in a printed book, never take any genealogical data you find online as THE final word. Like never before it's important that you remember to fall back to the Cardinal Rule of genealogy - "Believe NONE of what you hear, only HALF of what you read. PROVE EVERYTHING!" Do your own research and use what you find on the Web as a guide. The abundance of data on the Web coupled with the hunger of an untrained family historian is like a traffic accident just waiting to happen to a new driver. He/she comes across a site and copies all the pertinent material into his/her records, neglecting to fall back on the Cardinal Rule. "Well, it's right there on the Web! It MUST be true!" What this new historian has just unknowingly done is copy material that was already documented as being fradulent or is full of errors. The new historican takes the data in pure faith that it's correct and proceeds from there. Not bad enough already, our new computing researcher later decides to "share the wealth" and his/her new-found material. Bad material being spread like wildfire.... Case in point... "genealogist" Gustav Anjou, who generated 192 genealogies and supporting records for price tags nearing $9,000. The problem is, Gustav Anjou was NOT a genealogist; he wasn't even a good researcher. However, Gustav Anjou was an excellent forger of genealogies and occasional supporting documents that are still being passed around today as fact. His only published work "Ulster County, NY Probate Records" contains valid wills and totally unacceptable abstracts that he himself created, mostly out of thin air. His other works were compiled privately and all are frauds. Anjou's material has been copied into numerous published genealogies by unwary historians who were blinded by the dazzling lineages they found so much that they neglected to check the sources for themselves. Less this section gets too much longer, I refer each of you to a Website with a great deal of Anjou information (including the names of the bogus genealogies) as well as data on some of the other famous fraudulent writers. Go to <http://www.linkline.com/personal/xymox/> and halfway down that page click on the Fraudulent Lineages link there. This is a very worthwhile read for everyone. The obvious warning here... NEVER, but NEVER assume anything on the Web (or in a book, for that matter) is correct. Just because it's printed, does NOT make it true. Fall back to the Cardinal Rule and draw your own conclusions after gathering your own evidence. A genealogist you may intend to be or already think you are, but it's the good one who follows through on lessons learned... Family... it's what we're all about. To our January babies, we wish you a very happy birthday! You are loved! :) I really enjoyed this time with you. It was so nice and I thank you for sharing it with me. I hope your upcoming week is filled with health, fun, productivity, and above all, filled with love. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

Last week while at the Hardin County Library in Savannah, Tennessee researching David William Howell of Florence, Lauderdale County, Alabama and Hardin County, Tennessee, and Lee Howell of Hardin County, Tennessee, Lauderdale County, Alabama and Evansville, Indiana , I came across some information from the late 1870's, connecting them to a Benjamin (? E. ) Howell of Hardin County, Tennessee and to a Bennie Howell of Texas (town not mentioned). Does anyone connect to any of these Howell's ? Steve Cooper Cloverdale, Alabama [email protected]

OH IT IS WONDERFUL !!!!! Thanks so much Colleen for taking this on! And Candi too for helping Colleen get our new home ready! Jackie Howell

Family -- You're gonna love it! No more annoying little ads, no more limitations on our site hits or on the size of our files. I hope all of you will join me in expressing heartfelt gratitude to Colleen for making all of this happen. She has worked tirelessly...for us! Makes me proud to be a HOWELL! -- Candi Beard Nation ----- Subj: [HOWELL] CHAT: THE KEYS TO OUR NEW HOME! Date: 1/12/02 10:18:56 AM Central Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi family, Well, I can't present all the keys to you yet, but I CAN give you the one to our front door! Here is the prime 'key' you'll be using: http://howellresearch.com Looks grand, huh? lol <snip> And with that, I say to all of you ... "WELCOME HOME!" :) Colleen

Hi family, Well, I can't present all the keys to you yet, but I CAN give you the one to our front door! Here is the prime 'key' you'll be using: http://howellresearch.com Looks grand, huh? lol Two other keys, the .net and .org extensions won't come online for another 24-48 hours. You might bang into Candi Beard Nation and I. We're hung up on a link that's giving us both headaches, so have been working to unsnag the problem. All pages should load, but if one doesn't it's because you've run into us. :) Specifically, the GENUKI link is the bugger. Candi gets hung up outside our home and can't hit the back button to return. hmmm.... But, we've got to open because I've already shut down GeoCities. As of today I've received donations totally just half the $280 outlay so far. To those cousins I say, "thank you so much." I'll keep an eye on my mailbox and update you as we go along. Family, your support is so appreciated. With this combined effort from everyone, this domain truly will be *OUR* home. For those of you who want/need my address, it follows: Colleen Pustola P.O. Box 13154 Fort Carson, CO 80913 The two new areas I told you about earlier ~ you'll one one on the Family Histories pages, the Ancestral Wall; the second is on the Vital Records ~ the Vital Records Certificates Project. Also, I opened up the 'Deeds' section on the Paper Trail page. All the Christmas gifts are stored away with exception of one cousin's; she knows who she is. That cousin's gift will go online right after I receive her update. What you see online today, is not what we'll be closing the year out with. Oh, the Research Room will be there all right, but it will become part of the Howell Research CENTER. The key you're using tonight will be changed in a month or two, when I'll get us ... well... just know that sometime in the next several months you'll be reaching the Room by using a /room extension as opposed to what you're doing now. For now, I simply got us back up and online ... and AWAY from GeoCities so we can stop getting shut down! :) Yes, the guestbook and forum are back online and ready. Yes, the search engine works. I think that's everything... except... You know cousins, it takes a great deal of effort to get a site online. As hard as I try to keep the errors out, sometimes I'm so in the middle of things that I can't see what's in front of my face! That happens to all of us, I know. But it's times like this when a team effort will produce a spectacular site that will have all of cyberspace talking! I want to give supreme thanks to Candi Beard Nation for going through our home and checking every link, making sure our home is perfect before bringing it back online to our surfing public. She found several tiny errors that return broken pages (I just HATE broken links and graphics!). Candi covered my back and in so doing, covered ALL our backs, making us look good before the Web. Thank you so much, Candi. And now cousins, I want to ask the same thing of you. Candi and I are just two people. It takes a team effort to create a site worthy of being called "excellent." Once you're back in our home, please check your own individual pages. Make sure your links work and your email hyperlink bring up email forms. Should you see anything amiss, PLEASE!... bring it to my attention immediately! I am not one of those people who say, "oh, I don't make mistakes." Au contraire! I make LOTS of mistakes! And I don't want to be the cause of us appearing to the world with peanut butter and jelly on our face. So, if you find a broken link, graphic, a typo, or some other not-so-rewarding thing, don't be afraid to tell me, okay? After all, this is OUR home. If I look bad, so do you. And with that, I say to all of you ... "WELCOME HOME!" :) Colleen

Colleen, While the subject is still fresh...........PLEASE give us your address again so we can mail you some money to help with the "rent". Micki

Good glorious morning, family! Candi is doing link checks, and I'm putting the final touches on our new home. We are very close to completing everything and should be opening tomorrow, if not later today. I'll definitely be closing the doors to our GeoCities home tonight. So, if there's something you wanted/needed to see (like our family's tree, maybe?) you'll want to be sure to do it before then. All the Christmas presents are stored away. Two new areas were opened that you'll want to check out. When I "hand" you the keys to our home, I'll tell you what those areas are. For now, just know that there are two additions. Everything will basically be the same as before ~ the layout, the graphics, etc. Missing will be those horrid pop-ups, Geoguides and their banners, and the error messages that accompanied them in Internet Explorer. Making layout or major graphics changes would have meant a lot longer time before we opened so I opted for the fast move, especially since I still had the Christmas gifts to put away. Okay, everyone ~ I'm back to work. I still have final touches to make and then help Candi check the links. It won't be long now... I wish you all a FANTASTIC Friday! :) Colleen

Hi cousins, I have several things to report, however to look at it superficially, it looks like nothing has been done. That isn't true though; quite a bit has actually been accomplished. ** We still can't get into our domain by using howellresearch.com/net/org. I checked the whois directory to see if it's even registered yet; nope, not there. If we aren't able to use howellresearch to get in by tomorrow, I'll give our hosts a call and see what's up. This could very well be a result of the 'holiday-drag'. ** I have the files from GeoCities online at the domain, however they're hidden. I needed time to remove the GeoCities banners and pop-up coding that was required before I put the pages online. GOT THEM **GONE!** :) I just hope I got everything. ** I've been working on storing the Christmas gifts, getting them ready to put online in the day-to-day format. Of 35 files, I have 12 left to do, then must set those new files into the directory pages. I'm gittin' thar! :) On top of it all, for the past three days (or is it four now???) I've been nursing the sore throat from Hell. I KNOW that's where it came from because it sure wasn't something sent from Heaven! So, I have to admit to some slack time. My energy levels are uhm... cruddy, you might say. We owe many thanks to cousin Candi Beard Nation for volunteering to assist me in doing the link and banner/pop-up code removal checks. This is an extremely important step to ensure that once we open, that we'll come back online looking sparkly and clean for our surfing public. I appreciate you, Candi! :) Immediately following are coming back online, I'll be doing an extensive publicity campaign for us to let everyone know where we are. It's at this point I'll need all of you to help me ~ yes, even you newbies can help, too. I'll tell you more as time goes along. And last, and soon to be least (yippee!) ... I'm still receiving notices from GeoCities that we've been shut down hours (single hours, that is) at a time again. *sigh* This is certainly something I WON'T miss! I don't believe any of you will, either. Slow that it is, just know that I AM working at this end as hard as I can to get us moved. At this point, I see this happening by the end of the week ~ maybe sooner. I hope you've all been having a MAGNIFICENT Monday! :) Colleen

Hi, I am Jinnye Nobles Koons. I am trying to find out anything about my paternal gggrandparents, George Howell and Sallie Smith Howell. Their daughter, Sarah Jane Howell Nobles and George Washington Irving Nobles were my paternal ggrandparents. They were married Dec. 26, 1875 in Pulaski Co . They all lived in Pulaski County, in S. Georgia in Whitfield District. Their children were: William Irving (W.I.), John Washington (my grandfather), Nancy (Conner), Georgia m. Zachariah(Neumans) and Josephine m. John Norman Bullington. They are buried in Wesley Chapel Cemetery there. I have no idea who George and Sallie's parents are. Any info would just be a godsend. They are my brick wall. I can be emailed at [email protected] Thank you in advance. Jinnye

Colleen, Please let all the "newbies" know how it was in the "old" days. Many of them out there don't remember life before computers. Personally, I began in 1960 with handwritten letters to all relatives, using pencil carbon & onionskin so I had a record of my questions. Didn't even have a typrwriter! True, believe it or not. As always gung ho for my project, I worked both sides of my family at the same time. In six months I had a stack of letters & replies six inches high. It finally came to the point that I designed charts on which to record my findings (strongly resembled forms in use today by libraries & genealogical societies). Lucky for me, I lived within 60 miles of Clayton Library in Houston (now one of the premier genealogy libraries in the country). Also very lucky for me, my husband was very interested in my research. All our vacations for the next 10 years (he died in 1970) involved visiting court houses, distant cousins & tromping thru cemeteries with our Polaroid and a box of chalk. Oh those were great field trips. Lots of chiggers, brambles, & barbed wire fences. Sites we could not have found without help from locals. Anyway, through the years, I finally developed the courage to computerize. Took some time, believe me to put 30 years research onto PAF. Was amazed at how many questions were answered simply by having the ability to flip back & forth so readily. Still have MANY puzzles & unanswered questions. Trying to learn how to use tools available with new computer, scanner, etc. Main message to folks just beginning is "You are in for the thrill of your life watching it all come together". Stick with the 4 H's and forge through the brick walls. You'll be glad you did. We have a great family and and a fantastic gal heading up our Digest. Thanks again for the wonderful Christmas tree. Dorothy HOWELL Carroll ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, 06 January, 2002 12:49 PM Subject: HOWELL-D Digest V02 #6

Colleen, Thanks for your good work. We will be away from our computer for 4 to 8 weeks and so I think we will just unsubscribe for that time. We will be back, God willing. Thanks, Joe and Belle Tucker <[email protected]> ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Pustola Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 9:34 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HOWELL] 4H SUNDAY MORNING COFFEE ) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. A message for our experienced computer genealogists 3. A message for our newbies and novices TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://geocities.com/howell_research>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. A MESSAGE FOR OUR EXPERIENCED COMPUTER GENEALOGISTS We already have and will have new cousins in our ranks who are brand new to genealogy and/or to computing. It's so exciting to be able to join the ranks of one's peers in a common goal. On the other hand, it's hard to adjust to someone who jumps in without really knowing how "to play" the game. Novices and well-experienced ~ I'd like to remind you of "those" days back when ... when you were feeling those funny quirks of "how-do-I's"... Remember when you first started genealogy ~ how everything was rather confusing for a while? Then, when you jumped on the Web with that first computer? ... your first email discussion list? ... The time has rolled around to another January ... a month filled with brand new genealogists and computer users ... one filled with the necessity of patience, understanding and kindness ... one that makes we experienced family members the teachers. I have no doubt that you are ready to step in and help our newest family members as they begin their lessons. A MESSAGE FOR OUR NEWBIES AND NOVICES [Long. You'll probably want another cup of coffee] "All these people know more than I do. What AM I doing here? I don't belong and if I say anything I'm going to sound like a real dummy. If I just read the messages, nobody will know I'm here. I can't foul anything up that way and nobody can make fun of or yell at me." You're a newbie, not sure of what you're doing here, but know you want to find your lines. You don't know much about genealogy, hardly anything about your lines, are scared to death to say anything or post your data, so you do what's called 'lurking'. You know there's a roll call but don't know where to send it, and even if you do, you're afraid you're going to do it wrong because you've never done it before. So you don't bother to send one in. You know somebody's got a site but how do you find it? ...And queries? "What are those? Am I allowed to make one?" "What if what I say is dumb?" "These people all sound so smart; if I say anything I'm gonna sound like a real dummy!" "I'm so new at this I don't really have any information to contribute." "What was it I'm supposed to say again?" "Where ARE all these sites everyone is talking about? ... and where do I find that Web site called URL?" "If I just read the messages, nobody will know I'm here. I won't embarrass myself that way and nobody will make fun of or yell at me." Newbies, does any of the above currently sound familiar? Do you feel intimidated, nervous and/or ignorant, while everyone is confident and smart? Well, I'm here to tell you that every single one of us "confident and smart" people have been in PRECISELY the same spot you're in right now! On the average I receive 2-3 messages a week reading something akin to the above two paragraphs. This is a message from the heart meant and targeted directly to all you newbies and some of you novices. You need to know that the fear and intimidation you feel posting messages to the list are exactly what I felt....what everyone feels - no more and no less. Every experienced researcher had to "walk the fire." I know your fears and worries. I know your concern of intimidation. I wore all those labels I'm sure, right in the middle of my forehead. I teach genealogy today in schools and I do guest speaking at seminars. When I talk to newbies I understand your confusion; I was confused for months! This confidence and brilliance you're seeing from the cousins is something built on trust ... trust in the family, trust in one another that we can make mistakes without fear of humiliating reprisal from someone. The internet can be a scary 'place'. It's hard to tell in an email whether or not someone is joking, or serious and dumping on you. You newbies still have your lessons to learn but now you're doing it behind a keyboard and monitor. But you have one advantange over a lot of others...... You belong to the family. When you joined this list, you joined a family. You did not just join a group of people who care only about themselves and their own research. You joined an international family of cousins who feel EXACTLY the same as you, at first scared, intimidated and nervous -- no matter what country we're from. We ALL want to find our lines, but we have something special in us -- we take care of our own. If you're a newbie or a novice, you're a treasure to we experienced researchers. Are you aware of that? ANY little scrap of information offered up is valuable. Even scraps, once pulled together, will help fit puzzle pieces together. That's why you newbies are so important. You tend to provide many of those tiny bits of family info that a lot of us long-time researchers haven't been able to find in records. ["Oh this? It was in my Grannie's Bible! I didn't think it was all that important......."] Actually, most newbies are a wealth of information! The problem is many newbies [and on some lists, even well-experienced researchers] are intimidated by list managers that mandate this and that, and rather than help or teach will subjugate or totally shove aside the newbie as someone who just doesn't know what they're doing. The newbie gets hurt or frustrated with the treatment they've received, leaves the list and takes some really important data with him/her. [This is a lose-lose situation. The newbie doesn't have the opportunity to find his/her ancestors and the list membership loses out on information the newbie carries.] To all our newbies, know this..... you WILL NOT be flamed (receive hateful messages) by anyone in this family, nor will anyone else. You WILL NOT be intimidated or humiliated by anyone, either; likewise, nor will anyone else. It just doesn't happen here. Family takes care of family, and we take care of our newbies, our novices, and each other. The penalty for flaming in the family is immediate removal. You may be corrected by someone for TYPING AN ENTIRE MESSAGE ALL IN CAPS [not proper netiquette, by the way, as it's considered yelling] but it will be a constructive and gentle correction. You may be told your query is too wordy to be a query or doesn't contain enough information, but the criticism will be constructive and gentle. You may be told you neglected to put in places or dates in a post or a roll call message, but that also will be constructive and gentle. You will not be picked on, nor will you be subjugated ["you're just a newbie"] or shoved aside like some know-nothing. Know also that you are an extremely important part of this family. No matter how little it may be right now, you bring new familial knowledge to us and with experience, will have the ability to apply it. Please learn from those of us who have walked your path, stay with us and help us to break down the brick walls you keep hearing about. Post your queries, messages and roll calls. Add data to the discussion as you can. Most of all, DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK FOR HELP. You'll most assuredly get it here. Don't lurk - participate and learn. You have but to ask when you don't know or don't understand. After all, it's family....it's what WE'RE all about. My coffee cup is empty for yet another week. I so enjoyed spending this time with you today. Thank you for sharing it with me. I wish each of you a week filled with health, productivity, fun, and above all, filled with love and inner peace. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.' ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at <http://www.geocities.com/howell_research>.

Hi Steve Cooper, Your post is so interesting to me because I have been researching the Greenup Co Ky Howells that migrated from Bedford Co Va. and we have might have an interesting connection For many years now I have been trying to find out why, Alexander Oakes Howell and his wife Nancy West who were married December 20 1823, in Bedford Co Virginia named a daughter born January 31, 1830 Bedford Co Va Ottaway Annie Howell. On her death certificate it is Ottawa Annie but on the 1850 census it is Ottaway. That is really a different kind of first name for a daughter. I have never seen it before or since. I don't know what all this might mean, but in your posted census your Elizabeth is from Va. Maybe at some future point in time you may make some headway and be able to tell me if your Charles made a stopover in Bedford Co Va. and I can solve my little mystery here with Ottaway Annie. Thanks Rebekka ***** Who were these "family in Florence, Alabama" ? See ***** below. I need help in researching the family of Charles Attaway/Ottoway born in > > England about 1798 and died after 1850 probably in Franklin or Colbert > > County, Alabama. He married Elizabeth Garnett. Also, need help in > > researching the family of Emma Attaway/Ottoway and husband Captain Lee Howell. Obituary for Emma Ottoway Howell (Florence Times, Dec. 29, 1922, page 1, Florence, Alabama) Mrs. Lee Howell Dead Mrs. Lee Howell, widow of Capt. Lee Howell died at the family home 217 Chestnut Street, at 9:45 o'clock Saturday morning, following a short illness of pneumonia. Mrs. Howell had been in declining health since last summer, was taken ill 10 days ago but it was not until the last 24 hours that her condition became critical. Mrs. Howell, whose birthplace was in Tuscumbia, Alabama, was the formerly Miss Emma Ottaway, daughter of Charles and Elizabeth Garnett Ottaway. She married Capt. Howell at the end of the civil war and for the last 40 years has lived in Evansville. Mrs. Howell who is the last surviving member of her family, leaves two children, Lee Howell and Mrs. James Edward Cox, and ne grandchild, Miss Emma Lee Cox. vansville (Indiana) Journal, December 16th. > > 1850 Census for Franklin County, Alabama > > > > Attaway (Note: Sometimes found as Ottoway) > > > > Charles M 52 Taylor England > > Elizabeth F 42 Va. > > Mary F 10 Al. > > Emma F 6 Al, > > Fran?ey F 1 Al. > > Chas. M 15 Al. > > > > > > Other families connected to Emma Attaway/Ottoway are Fosdick, Cox, > Garnett. > > > > Steve Cooper > > Cloverdale, Alabama

) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. A message for our experienced computer genealogists 3. A message for our newbies and novices TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://geocities.com/howell_research>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. A MESSAGE FOR OUR EXPERIENCED COMPUTER GENEALOGISTS We already have and will have new cousins in our ranks who are brand new to genealogy and/or to computing. It's so exciting to be able to join the ranks of one's peers in a common goal. On the other hand, it's hard to adjust to someone who jumps in without really knowing how "to play" the game. Novices and well-experienced ~ I'd like to remind you of "those" days back when ... when you were feeling those funny quirks of "how-do-I's"... Remember when you first started genealogy ~ how everything was rather confusing for a while? Then, when you jumped on the Web with that first computer? ... your first email discussion list? ... The time has rolled around to another January ... a month filled with brand new genealogists and computer users ... one filled with the necessity of patience, understanding and kindness ... one that makes we experienced family members the teachers. I have no doubt that you are ready to step in and help our newest family members as they begin their lessons. A MESSAGE FOR OUR NEWBIES AND NOVICES [Long. You'll probably want another cup of coffee] "All these people know more than I do. What AM I doing here? I don't belong and if I say anything I'm going to sound like a real dummy. If I just read the messages, nobody will know I'm here. I can't foul anything up that way and nobody can make fun of or yell at me." You're a newbie, not sure of what you're doing here, but know you want to find your lines. You don't know much about genealogy, hardly anything about your lines, are scared to death to say anything or post your data, so you do what's called 'lurking'. You know there's a roll call but don't know where to send it, and even if you do, you're afraid you're going to do it wrong because you've never done it before. So you don't bother to send one in. You know somebody's got a site but how do you find it? ...And queries? "What are those? Am I allowed to make one?" "What if what I say is dumb?" "These people all sound so smart; if I say anything I'm gonna sound like a real dummy!" "I'm so new at this I don't really have any information to contribute." "What was it I'm supposed to say again?" "Where ARE all these sites everyone is talking about? ... and where do I find that Web site called URL?" "If I just read the messages, nobody will know I'm here. I won't embarrass myself that way and nobody will make fun of or yell at me." Newbies, does any of the above currently sound familiar? Do you feel intimidated, nervous and/or ignorant, while everyone is confident and smart? Well, I'm here to tell you that every single one of us "confident and smart" people have been in PRECISELY the same spot you're in right now! On the average I receive 2-3 messages a week reading something akin to the above two paragraphs. This is a message from the heart meant and targeted directly to all you newbies and some of you novices. You need to know that the fear and intimidation you feel posting messages to the list are exactly what I felt....what everyone feels - no more and no less. Every experienced researcher had to "walk the fire." I know your fears and worries. I know your concern of intimidation. I wore all those labels I'm sure, right in the middle of my forehead. I teach genealogy today in schools and I do guest speaking at seminars. When I talk to newbies I understand your confusion; I was confused for months! This confidence and brilliance you're seeing from the cousins is something built on trust ... trust in the family, trust in one another that we can make mistakes without fear of humiliating reprisal from someone. The internet can be a scary 'place'. It's hard to tell in an email whether or not someone is joking, or serious and dumping on you. You newbies still have your lessons to learn but now you're doing it behind a keyboard and monitor. But you have one advantange over a lot of others...... You belong to the family. When you joined this list, you joined a family. You did not just join a group of people who care only about themselves and their own research. You joined an international family of cousins who feel EXACTLY the same as you, at first scared, intimidated and nervous -- no matter what country we're from. We ALL want to find our lines, but we have something special in us -- we take care of our own. If you're a newbie or a novice, you're a treasure to we experienced researchers. Are you aware of that? ANY little scrap of information offered up is valuable. Even scraps, once pulled together, will help fit puzzle pieces together. That's why you newbies are so important. You tend to provide many of those tiny bits of family info that a lot of us long-time researchers haven't been able to find in records. ["Oh this? It was in my Grannie's Bible! I didn't think it was all that important......."] Actually, most newbies are a wealth of information! The problem is many newbies [and on some lists, even well-experienced researchers] are intimidated by list managers that mandate this and that, and rather than help or teach will subjugate or totally shove aside the newbie as someone who just doesn't know what they're doing. The newbie gets hurt or frustrated with the treatment they've received, leaves the list and takes some really important data with him/her. [This is a lose-lose situation. The newbie doesn't have the opportunity to find his/her ancestors and the list membership loses out on information the newbie carries.] To all our newbies, know this..... you WILL NOT be flamed (receive hateful messages) by anyone in this family, nor will anyone else. You WILL NOT be intimidated or humiliated by anyone, either; likewise, nor will anyone else. It just doesn't happen here. Family takes care of family, and we take care of our newbies, our novices, and each other. The penalty for flaming in the family is immediate removal. You may be corrected by someone for TYPING AN ENTIRE MESSAGE ALL IN CAPS [not proper netiquette, by the way, as it's considered yelling] but it will be a constructive and gentle correction. You may be told your query is too wordy to be a query or doesn't contain enough information, but the criticism will be constructive and gentle. You may be told you neglected to put in places or dates in a post or a roll call message, but that also will be constructive and gentle. You will not be picked on, nor will you be subjugated ["you're just a newbie"] or shoved aside like some know-nothing. Know also that you are an extremely important part of this family. No matter how little it may be right now, you bring new familial knowledge to us and with experience, will have the ability to apply it. Please learn from those of us who have walked your path, stay with us and help us to break down the brick walls you keep hearing about. Post your queries, messages and roll calls. Add data to the discussion as you can. Most of all, DON'T BE AFRAID TO ASK FOR HELP. You'll most assuredly get it here. Don't lurk - participate and learn. You have but to ask when you don't know or don't understand. After all, it's family....it's what WE'RE all about. My coffee cup is empty for yet another week. I so enjoyed spending this time with you today. Thank you for sharing it with me. I wish each of you a week filled with health, productivity, fun, and above all, filled with love and inner peace. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

***** Who were these "family in Florence, Alabama" ? See ***** below. I need help in researching the family of Charles Attaway/Ottoway born in England about 1798 and died after 1850 probably in Franklin or Colbert County, Alabama. He married Elizabeth Garnett. Also, need help in researching the family of Emma Attaway/Ottoway and husband Captain Lee Howell. Obituary for Emma Ottoway Howell (Florence Times, Dec. 29, 1922, page 1, Florence, Alabama) Mrs. Lee Howell Dead Mrs. Lee Howell, widow of Capt. Lee Howell died at the family home 217 Chestnut Street, at 9:45 o'clock Saturday morning, following a short illness of pneumonia. Mrs. Howell had been in declining health since last summer, was taken ill 10 days ago but it was not until the last 24 hours that her condition became critical. Mrs. Howell, whose birthplace was in Tuscumbia, Alabama, was the formerly Miss Emma Ottaway, daughter of Charles and Elizabeth Garnett Ottaway. She married Capt. Howell at the end of the civil war and for the last 40 years has lived in Evansville. Mrs. Howell who is the last surviving member of her family, leaves two children, Lee Howell and Mrs. James Edward Cox, and one grandchild, Miss Emma Lee Cox. Evansville (Indiana) Journal, December 16th. ***** Captain and Mrs. Lee Howell were the residents of Florence about forty years ago, and have a number of relatives in this section, besides friends of the family, who will regret to learn of Mrs. Howell's death. 1850 Census for Franklin County, Alabama Attaway (Note: Sometimes found as Ottoway) Charles M 52 Taylor England Elizabeth F 42 Va. Mary F 10 Al. Emma F 6 Al, Fran?ey F 1 Al. Chas. M 15 Al. Other families connected to Emma Attaway/Ottoway are Fosdick, Cox, Garnett. Steve Cooper Cloverdale, Alabama [email protected]

Aren't HOWELL's just the greatest. As a native Texan, Debbie, I really love your message! ----- Original Message ----- From: "debbie howell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, 04 January, 2002 9:47 AM Subject: [HOWELL] Re: HOWELL-D Digest V02 #3 > Yeah! I have quietly and silently been reading all the posts about the > domain issue--but thought I should voice my support with a monetary > support--"The Check Is In The Mail"! That makes it sound kind of > fishy--doesn't it? But it really is..in the mail! > > I hope that Colleen collects tons of money from everyone, so that we can > keep this domain open for a long time. And Colleen--long before the money > well runs dry--send out a cry for more--I will be glad to help. > > Debbie Howell (formerly--many years ago--from Colorado Springs!) I think > that Colleen's Ft. Carson is somewhere close to that! > > > ***If you go to church, say your prayers and lead a good life---when you > die: you will go to TEXAS! > > However a friend of mine thinks this is more appropriate: > > When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did- > in his sleep. Not screaming like the passengers in his car! **** > > Debbie [email protected] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > ______________________________

Colleen -- I'm happy to help test the links. (I'm in Mexico for the winter, online via a 'not-always-reliable' Mexico provider, so if I can access our new home, I assume just about anyone could!!) Let me know if/what you want me to do. -- Candi Beard Nation -------- Subj: [HOWELL] Re: New Howell Research Home Date: 1/3/02 4:13:55 PM Central Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) <snips> After moving, storing our Christmas gifts, and checking every link at our home, I'll get us loaded back into all the search engines. I may need some help checking all the links. Will one or two of you help me so I can make sure they're all checked and working properly? Back to work ... Colleen

Colleen -- Absolutely FANTASTIC! This is the best possible solution to our dilemma, albeit the one requiring the most of your selfless energies. I've asked my office to mail you my sponsor contribution check -- it should go out in Friday's mail. Once again, thanks for all of your efforts to continue making us the best surname site on the web. -- Candi Beard Nation ------ Subj: [HOWELL] **EVERYONE PLEASE READ: WE HAVE A NEW HOME!** Date: 1/3/02 2:42:05 PM Central Standard Time From: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Reply-to: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> To: <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> Sent from the Internet (Details) Hi family, <snipped sections throughout> It's done. Effective today we have a new home. howellresearch.com ...or, howellresearch.org ...or, howellresearch.net http://64.177.27.166 Now, the business part: $280 outlay for howellresearch.com/.net/.org We won't be paying any monthly fees, just that one-time $200 outlay. However, we will have annual fees due next January: There are cousins who have offered to help offset my expenses for our new home. However, if you would also like to contribute to this effort I will very humbly and gratefully accept any donations: Colleen Pustola P.O. Box 13154 Fort Carson, Colorado 80913 Colleen

Yeah! I have quietly and silently been reading all the posts about the domain issue--but thought I should voice my support with a monetary support--"The Check Is In The Mail"! That makes it sound kind of fishy--doesn't it? But it really is..in the mail! I hope that Colleen collects tons of money from everyone, so that we can keep this domain open for a long time. And Colleen--long before the money well runs dry--send out a cry for more--I will be glad to help. Debbie Howell (formerly--many years ago--from Colorado Springs!) I think that Colleen's Ft. Carson is somewhere close to that! ***If you go to church, say your prayers and lead a good life---when you die: you will go to TEXAS! However a friend of mine thinks this is more appropriate: When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did- in his sleep. Not screaming like the passengers in his car! **** Debbie [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

That is great! I'm placing a check in the mail this evening. Will you leave the old site open to direct folks to the new site? Just an idea. Thank you for your hard work. Johnny Johnson Soddy Daisy (just outside of Chattanooga)