Is Benjamin the father of Mathrew? ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 7:08 AM Subject: [HOWELL] Howell VA & Belmont Co, OH > Hello, > We do not have a Benjamine Sr, however we do have--- > >> Matthew Howell m Rebecca Henthorn; his will Belmont Co, OH 1819; > >> Son Aaron b 1792 VA d 1869 Monroe Co, OH, m 1812 Elizabeth White, > children: Wilford b 1821, married Farnsworth, Thomas b 1829, Hamilton m 1873 > Snively, John, Aaron b 1833 m Jane -, Mary m Hartshorn, Marinda maried Sloan, > Nancy m Farnsworth, David William m 1850 Spear, Sarah, Eliza Jane1830-1916; > > > >>Elizabeth White parents were Andrew White and Elizabeth Neiswonger; > >>Wilford is my great great grandfather. > > Alice Porter > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://www.geocities.com/howell_research>. >

Hello list--I follow the line of Francis Howell, b. NC 1763, d. MO 1834. I would like to learn his parents, his father John said to be from PA. I have no name or data for his mother. I am also interested in the collateral lines of his older brothers, John and Thomas. Lew Howell ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hello could you tell me about your Mathew Howell? Also anything if you have it about Aaron Howell his son? thank you Verna Abbott ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 4:32 PM Subject: [HOWELL] Montgomery & Fincastle Counties Virginia Marriages 1773-1831 > Hello Micki, > My name is Jeff Howell, a descendent of Mathew Howell. Mathew showed up in the Wheeling West Virginia (then Virginia) area in the late 1700's. Later Mathew moved to Belmont Co. Ohio were in 1813 he served in the War of 1812. I have been unable to determine His Ancestry or where he came from. > > In reading the notes You added to the original information by Ann Thomas, You say two of Benjamine Sr. sons left for Indiana territory prior to 1799. If You (or anyone reading this post) has names for the two sons, I would much appricate having that information. > > Other Howells in the Wheeling area in the same time frame was Aaron, Willam, Thomas and David. > > Jeff > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Our homesite is the Howell Research Room located at > <http://www.geocities.com/howell_research>. >

--=====================_1012948572==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://howell.20m.com/home.html Found on Allen Co.Ky.site! --=====================_1012948572==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://howell.20m.com/home.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://howell.20m.com/home.html Modified=60FA41F362AEC10160 --=====================_1012948572==_--

) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. The dark side of e-mail: viruses TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://howellresearch.com>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the fourth in a series of Coffees dedicated to showing our newbies the "cyberspace ropes" and those novices who might still need the lessons. Today's subject might be rather unnerving. However, remembering what you learn here AND furthering this knowledge with additional reading will give your machine the protection it needs and the peace of mind you should have while online. THE DARK SIDE OF E-MAIL: VIRUSES You receive a message from from your best friend. "Oh, happiness!" The weird thing about this message though, is your friend's email address starts with an underscore _ instead of a letter like most people's does. Oh well, you know it's from your best friend... You receive a message with an attachment. It looks innocent enough. You don't know why there's a double extension [.zip.scr ~ or something close to this], but other than that, well... It DOES say "Take a look to the attachement," (their spelling, not mine) after all. What could be so harmful? Nobody you know would ever consider sending YOU a virus-laden attachment! Or so you thought. Your mother, as much as she loves you; your best friend, as much as you mean the world to him/her; that list member, as knowledgeable as s/he is ... One of them sent you a message with a virus in it, and you opened it. None of them even knew their computer was infected, but you do... now. And how do you know that your computer is infected? Because someone received a virus-laden message from YOUR computer and sent a message to you telling you about it. You didn't even know your computer was infected, but it is. You didn't even know your computer was sending out messages; but it was. WONDERFUL! SIMPLY WONDERFUL! It's at this point you might like to know that some people have had to pay over $300 to get their computers repaired and working correctly again ~ the result of one of three groups of nasty computer ills guaranteed to play havoc with your computer and sometimes, your wallet! Newbies ... welcome to the world of computing ... and its dark side. There are three nasties just lying in wait for you and your computer. They are: ** the virus: a program that requires a host in order to make copies of itself on computers. The ability to self-replicate distinguishes viruses from programs that do not, and this parasitic nature is neither an accident, nor a computer glitch. Viruses often contain 'payloads' (actions that the virus carries out in addition to replication), may infect (copy to, and spread from) program files, programs in disk sectors, and files that use macros. These programs range from the annoying (one virus displays messages such as "I think 'username' is a stupid jerk"), to disastrous ~ causing some of your systems files to be overwritten, or flat-out destroying your hard drive. ** the Trojan horse program: like the giant wooden horse that concealed Greek soldiers who used it to invade the ancient city of Troy, a Trojan conceals hidden programming. The hidden function may just be a joke, or something annoying, but vandals often use these programs to destroy other people's data, knowing that some people will run any program that has an interesting file name, or promises to perform a useful function. ** the worm program: similar to a virus; it is considered by some to be a subset of a virus in that it makes copies of itself but does so without needing to modify your computer. Like viruses, worms may (or may not) do things other than replicate. So that I don't have to keep repeating "virus, Trojan and worm," for the rest of this Coffee everything will be called a virus ... Viruses are written by amateur programmers who count on people's curiosity getting the best of them ("I wonder what's inside?" [the attachment]). Their messages use techniques that take advantage of people's social habits and expectations to lure and trick them into opening attachments or visiting harmful Web pages. These viruses are uninvited programs that run on your computer usually unbeknownst to you and vary widely in their effects. They can be hidden in programs available on floppy disks or CDs, hidden in email attachments or in material downloaded from the web. If the virus has no obvious payload, a user might not even be aware that a computer is infected. As part of a virus's payload a message might appear, you could have strange video effects, or even music can play. Some effects are so mild that you might not notice them. Viruses with more devastating consequences do exist, sometimes causing damage to your other computer files. One deletes the contents of your C: drive straight away. It just depends on which of the three you're dealing with AND to which type of that particular nasty you're having to contend. Many viruses secretly copy themselves to files in your hard drive or diskettes and in that way propagate themselves as you share files with other computer users. The most common way of your computer becoming infected is by opening and running unknown email attachments. Your #1 rule regarding attachments therefore, should be: NEVER open an attachment until ** you have verified with the person sending it to you 1.) that s/he in fact, did send it and 2.) exactly what the attachment is and what it does, OR ** you have saved the attachment to a floppy disk and then checked the file for viruses To make online life really ugly, where once email viruses were spread only by opening attachments, they are now spreading WITHOUT THE USER OPENING ANY ATTACHMENT. About two years ago a major hole was discovered in Microsoft's Internet Explorer code. The hole allows malicious scripts to run from within html pages which can come from web sites or within email. When malicious code comes in email, the receiver does not have to open any attachment to "catch the virus." It is transmitted as soon as the html-enabled email reader displays the message. I need to inject here ... rest assured you absolutely CANNOT get a virus-laden message through a Rootsweb email list. RootsWeb's mailing lists are filtered and attachments are removed. A virus that is distributed as an attachment will not reach you through a RootsWeb mailing list. Should you ever receive a virus-laden message with a Rootsweb [LISTNAME] in the subject line, you can bet it came from a member of your list, but BEHIND the scenes, not directly through the list itself. Tender newbie, after everything I've just told you, below is **THE** most important guide of the Web that anyone can teach you. Without knowing this, you can't even *exist* on the Web and hope to keep your computer safe ~ whether you're a computer genealogist or just a surfer. There is only ONE defense against these virus attacks ~ a good anti-virus program installed into your computer right away. Don't wait till tomorrow or next week, unless you don't plan to receive any email or go on the Web. It's that simple. Below are three of the more popular anti-virus programs. Norton and McAfee have free trial versions that run for 30 days. AVG is free. All are excellent programs. Norton Antivirus <http://www.symantec.com/region/es/>. McAfee Virus Scan 4.0 <http://download.mcafee.com>. AVG Antivirus <http://www.grisoft.com> Once you have an anti-virus program installed on your computer, be sure to update it at least once a week. The viruses are changing so often and coming upon us so quickly that if you don't keep your protection current, your computer can still get infected. This is by no means the end of the subject of viruses, however, it is here that I must end. The constraint of byte allocation for today's Coffee prohibits me from going further. However, I hope I have given you a good overview of this particular subject. For more information, a terrific source is <http://csrc.nist.gov/virus> where they have links to other virus resources and a listing of anti-virus program vendors. If you're curious or concerned right now, you can go to <http://housecall.antivirus.com/pc_housecall/> and receive an online check of your computer. Newbie, protecting your computer means you're also protecting OURS. If your computer doesn't "get sick," then ours certainly won't either. It's family ... and that's what we're all about. To you February babies - the cousins and I wish you a very happy and exciting year ahead. Happy Birthday! You are loved! I so enjoyed spending this time with you today. Thank you for sharing it with me. I wish each of you a week filled with health, productivity, fun, and above all, filled with love and inner peace. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

--=====================_1012523838==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://howell.20m.com/home.html --=====================_1012523838==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://howell.20m.com/home.html [InternetShortcut] URL=http://howell.20m.com/home.html Modified=40AFAA1286AAC1019D --=====================_1012523838==_--

Jean, That is so weird. I have a Carmichael ggrandparent on my mother's side and a Howell on my dad's. I'm going to check that site out. Thanks. Jinnye Koons

Sometimes family research is in the eyes of the beholder. We must often make assumptions about our fore fathers that we hope are correct. I was asked once if my Mat(t)hew HOWELL or his son Crowell HOWELL, b. Meigs Oh 1832, were Ministers of Methodist Episcopal Church. As there was no proof or different defintions in the past becasue the church had not "finished" splitting and developing. They did not tell that it was a "certain" branch of the church. I have finally found the time to search the history in my files and have found this it comes from the what is now called the United Methodist Church site: What are the Predecessor Denominations of The United Methodist Church? Today's United Methodist Church is the descendent of several predecessors. These denominations are: Methodist Episcopal Church (1784-1939), Methodist Episcopal Church, So. (1845-1939) Methodist Protestant Church ( 1828-1939), Methodist Church (1939-1968), United Brethren in Christ (1800-1946), Evangelical Association (1803-1922) United Evangelical Church (1894-1922), Evangelical Church (1922-1946) Evangelical United Brethren (1946-1968) United Methodist Church (1968- present) My Matthew HOWELL and his son Crowell HOWELL who lived in the 1800s, were most likely Ministers of Methodist Episcopal Church (M. E. Society as it was often refered to) because there was not another one according to the Church records that I have available to me. I do have the copy and have seen the original document of when my GGF, Crowell HOWELL, was ordained by the Bishop of the Methodist Episcopal Church in Arkansas. One more fact of interest is that the Methodist Episcopal was often a Black congregation. So if you ae haaving a hard time finding your Methodist minister in the past try searching according to the years above and you will have better luck. In today's world I know of many more not listed that are small factions of the same faith. Sheila Texas _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Hi, I just got this, after posting my little pitiful address... http://progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm Dix...

I must pass this along. It just might be the only bookmark you'll need. http://progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm Good Luck Elona

Hi, How many are aware of this "formula"? www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/ LOTS of censuses online !!! Dix...

Brenda, You might be interested in going to this site and find a Carmichael/Howell lead. http://www.wdbd.net/~tnknox/tnbaptists/index.html It seems that John Howell Carmichael was a babtist minister and there is quite a write up for him. His mother was Prudence Howell Carmichael I hope this helps if you do not already have it. Jean M.

Brenda: Sorry I was unable to help. Tom _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

Tom, I meant to add that Mattie was not a Carmichael, she was a Field, Her father was Simeon Field of Enterprise,Alabama. Another Brick wall for me. Nancy Jane Carmichael was from the Scottland Clan. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Watkins" <[email protected]> To: <HOWELL-[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 5:07 PM Subject: [HOWELL] George Marshall Howell & Mattie Fields Brenda I do not have George Marshall Howell who married Mattie Fields in my data base. This is what the 1880 census index shows for George Howell in Geneva County. Census Place: Geneva, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254013 National Archives Film T9-0013 Page 636D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Martha HOWELL Self F S W 30 GA Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: GA George HOWELL Son M S W 9 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA John HOWELL Son M S W 7 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA I do have Archibald M. CARMICHAEL in my data base but have no indication that he was related to Mattie's mother was Nancy Jane Carmichael of Coffee Co. This is what the 1880 index shows for Mattie Carmichael in Coffee County. Census Place: Haw Ridge, Coffee, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254008 National Archives Film T9-0008 Page 306D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace J. Danny CARMICHAEL Self M M W 33 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC Dora E. CARMICHAEL Wife F M W 22 AL Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA Mattie CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 5 AL Fa: GA Mo: AL Marvin CARMICHAEL Son M S W 2 AL Fa: GA Mo: AL Charlie CARMICHAEL Here is Mattie Carmichael in Dale County. Census Place: Newton, Dale, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254010 National Archives Film T9-0010 Page 602C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Daniel CARMICHAEL Self M M W 34 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: GA Sallie A. CARMICHAEL Wife F M W 31 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Archibald CARMICHAEL Son M S W 12 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA Maude CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 7 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA Mattie L. CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 5 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA David M I would not be the least bit surprised to find at some point they were all related. Hope this helps! Tom _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to [email protected]

Tom, Nancy Jane Carmichael was the daughter of John M. Carmichael and Sarah Hayes. John was born in S. C. and Sarah was born in Georgia. They both died in Coffee Co. Alabama.Do you know what the Clintonville Guards was. I believe John Carmichael was an officer and his son John Henry was an enlisted man in this group. Brenda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Watkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 5:07 PM Subject: [HOWELL] George Marshall Howell & Mattie Fields Brenda I do not have George Marshall Howell who married Mattie Fields in my data base. This is what the 1880 census index shows for George Howell in Geneva County. Census Place: Geneva, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254013 National Archives Film T9-0013 Page 636D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Martha HOWELL Self F S W 30 GA Occ: Farm Hand Fa: GA Mo: GA George HOWELL Son M S W 9 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA John HOWELL Son M S W 7 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA I do have Archibald M. CARMICHAEL in my data base but have no indication that he was related to Mattie's mother was Nancy Jane Carmichael of Coffee Co. This is what the 1880 index shows for Mattie Carmichael in Coffee County. Census Place: Haw Ridge, Coffee, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254008 National Archives Film T9-0008 Page 306D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace J. Danny CARMICHAEL Self M M W 33 GA Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC Dora E. CARMICHAEL Wife F M W 22 AL Occ: Keeping House Fa: GA Mo: GA Mattie CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 5 AL Fa: GA Mo: AL Marvin CARMICHAEL Son M S W 2 AL Fa: GA Mo: AL Charlie CARMICHAEL Here is Mattie Carmichael in Dale County. Census Place: Newton, Dale, Alabama Source: FHL Film 1254010 National Archives Film T9-0010 Page 602C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Daniel CARMICHAEL Self M M W 34 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: GA Sallie A. CARMICHAEL Wife F M W 31 GA Fa: GA Mo: GA Archibald CARMICHAEL Son M S W 12 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA Maude CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 7 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA Mattie L. CARMICHAEL Dau F S W 5 AL Fa: AL Mo: GA David M I would not be the least bit surprised to find at some point they were all related. Hope this helps! Tom _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to [email protected]

) ( ( ) Good Morning Family! ( \ .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \* ) \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . .=|=. \| |// ...and we even have decaf, |~'~| | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! | | \ / _|___|_ ------ (_______) Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. A continuation from last week's Coffee re: scams a. Genealogy Developments ~ is it familydiscovery.com? b. GedLink TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire 4H family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Howell lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Howell ancestors or any of the 9 variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. You have joined not just a list, but a family of cousins who are four teams of researchers combined into one family, the 4H. Although we are one family, we have two homesites and if you haven't visited these sites yet, you are encouraged to do so ~ Home for the HOWELL-L, HOWELLS-SOUTHERN-L, and HOWLE-L is the Howell Research Room (otherwise known as the HRR) which opened May 28th. You'll find it located at <http://howellresearch.com>. While not large in size yet, this site is to become a clearinghouse dedicated to global research of the Howell[s] surname and all her variant spellings. You're invited to submit material for display at the HRR. Simply let me know you want to house material there and what it is. We can display anything, provided it doesn't involve living persons. Contact me at <[email protected]>. Home for the HOWELL-SURNAME-L is the Edward Howell Family Association site at <http://www.ehfa.org>. This is a site dedicated to descendants of Edward Howell of Southampton, Long Island, New York. There you'll find an online transcription of "Descendants of Edward Howell (1584-1655) of Westbury Manor, Marsh Gibbon, Buckinghamshire, [England], and Southampton, Long Island, New York," Second Edition by Dr. David Faris. Web mistress for the EHFA site is Kristen Howell <[email protected]>. A CONTINUATION FROM LAST WEEK'S COFFEE re: SCAMS I covered the subject regarding scams last week and was supposed to have discussed two other subjects today (see, it's right here on my calendar!). However, I've received so many messages regarding Genealogy Developments and Gedlink that I decided I'd better cover both in depth. It seems that each enterprise has begun a publicity campaign and everyone is wondering, "is it a scam?" Here's the lowdown on each: a. GENEALOGY DEVELOPMENTS ~ IS IT FAMILYDISCOVERY.COM? "This is a new commercial enterprise!" No, it isn't. This has all the trappings of Family Discovery using a new alias; same ploy as before ~ just with a new wrapping. Avoid them like you would any of Family Discovery's other "enterprises." Tender newbies, if you didn't follow up on the links I gave you last week, then you still don't know and most definitely need to read this: The subject of Family Discovery is NOT new and yes, they are rip-offs. This is an old subject among those of us who have been doing online genealogy for at least the last two years. The storyline changes a little, but the players are all the same, and you should be made aware... Family Discovery, et al links their pages to free Rootsweb <http://www.rootsweb.com> sites and archive pages, GenWeb sites, and privately owned sites by way of frames ... sites on which all the information is already free. Unless the attached site has some sort of identifier on each page, you the viewer, will not realize that you're viewing free pages and *paying* for the "privilege" of doing so! Family Discovery is doing this without permission and are currently under investigation by at least two states' attorneys. Genealogy Developments advertises, "Currently we provide easy access to over 900 million records." Of course they can say something like that! Think about all the free sites there are to link to! We are here for your convenience as a researcher. (I'd like to know who COUNTED all those records that they can say something like that, by the way!) Then they go on to say, "We are working on a very large scale SEARCH ENGINE that will search billions upon billions of genealogy records." [my capitals] And there you have it, ladies and gentlemen. Genealogy Developments is advertising precisely what Family Discovery, et al does ... a search engine, and it's always "planned to be up and running within the next month." <http://www.genealogydevelopments.com/records.html> Please, heed this warning. A new ad has begun to circulate under the name of <GenealogyDevelopments.com>. Visit their site <http://www.genealogydevelopments.com>, have a good look around ... do you see a contact address? No? There's a good clue for you to realize that something isn't up to what it reports itself to be. (It doesn't really make a difference because even if there was one your messages would not be answered.) Now, while I'm at it, you need to know the other aliases so you're not taken in. Following is a list of sites associated with Family Discovery domain owners in one way or another: genealogydevelopments.com familydiscovery.com genealogyfinders.com genealogyfinders.net aboent.com genseeker.com genseekers.com genealogy-express.com Most of the above sites bill themselves as "the most comprehensive easy to use collection of online records ever compiled," or something close to it. Of course it is, if they link to every free website they can find! Save your money and do the search yourself! You DO NOT need to pay for a service that is already free if you know where to look. If you need assistance, send a message to the list and state in the top line of your message that you're a newbie needing help; you'll probably get more than you can handle! :) Gene Olson has has been a chronic thorn (yeaay!) in the side of the owners of the above sites to the point of having a death threat put against him! At first he focused strictly on FamilyDiscovery.com in an attempt to get them prosecuted. He has since refocused his Anti-Family Discovery Web Site and broadened its scope. It now includes any company that uses illegal or unethical business practices. You newbies to online genealogy would be wise to go to his site and read up on this company so you won't be ripped off. Click on the following link and you'll be taken directly to his site: <http://www.compuright.net/badbusiness/>. Gene's email address is <[email protected]>. Another site has taken over where Gene Olson left off. The website, Census Diggins, which I gave you a link to last week <http://www.censusdiggins.com/familydiscovery.html> has messages online from quite a few people who have stepped forward to tell you of their dealings with Family Discovery and some of their aliases. If you haven't done it already, it would be in your best interests to check it out, if only for a quick look. Just please, remember the above list of aliases. These people will take your money, giving you little to nothing in return, and from their past history will not answer any of your messages. Hide your wallet, checkbook, credit card, and run! :) b. GEDLINK *EVERYONE* seems to be wondering about GedLink. Are they a scam, or what? Does anybody know anything? Well, I have to honestly say, I don't know if they're a scam. However, I DO know a few things which I now report here: We DO know that GedLink is in the middle of a major publicity campaign because mention of their messages is popping up all over the lists. I've been doing a little investigating on GedLink because I've received so many messages asking about the site. They ask you to register (not a problem), and you have to download a trial version of their program (free) to link up with others. The premise here is to be able to allow others to view your data at the same time you're viewing theirs. What they don't tell you until about four pages into the site, at the end of registration, is that they want you to become a member for $19/year which allows them "to develop, maintain and constantly upgrade the system and gives you access to the FULL version, allowing you to request family trees." Until you pay, you can't access the promised features. One of GedLink's designers said in an online message, "The GedLink Software can be freely used. With GedLink, you can search for names, issue requests, and send messages without becoming a paying member. We don't want to write that the user has to pay for GedLink before the registration, in order not to frighten him before he has first used the Software, and we think it's not necessary, because there is no cost involved for the basic features the user expects (search, requests...) . On the second hand, it's true that we want to offer more features to paying members, as soon as we end the test phase, but GedLink shall always stay satisfying and useful for simple users who don't want to pay." Further down the same message the Gedlink designers says, "let me try to reassure you a little about our company. "Infoduc" exists since 1994. Its main product was a French shareware for genealogy, called "Win Genealogic," until we decided 1999 to "go internet". We created "notrefamille.com", a still flourishing web based service for the family, including genealogical tools. We signed some partnerships with important French portals like "Wanadoo" (France Telecom) and "AOL France", where our genealogical tools, including GedLink, will soon be available. They can be presently seen on voila.fr (which belongs to France Telecom)." I checked and they are indeed seen on the following site: http://noms.voila.fr/s/f1/welcome/default.asp Most of the people I've read receiving posts from this project were apprehensive and backed out before they were charged. They have already learned an important lesson: do NOT download software, or register with a company, unless they tell you up front whether money's involved and if so, how much. When in doubt, do your own investigation and see what others are saying about it. This next message is from someone on one of my lists: "I use Gedlink and I recommend that you invest in Norton Internet Security. Gedlink works on you sharing a directory (in your computer) with your gedcom file in it which you would need to update everytime you made changes. I have asked Gedlink on several ocassions about security with this method of sharing and what keeps someone from hacking into other areas of your hard drive. On their FAQ page <http://www.gedlink.com/web/en/support/faq.asp>. Nothing addresses security, Gedlink has tried to assure me that their software prevents this....sure just as Microsoft prevented those from accessing Outlook and most recently Windows XP." At this point I need to reiterate ~ I am not saying Gedlink is a scam. I've found no negative messages about them after doing a major Web search ~ the nearest negativity being that in the last paragraph. People I've contacted have not heard anything negative. I'm willing to give GedLink a temporary benefit of the doubt, but I won't be giving them my money. I really don't get warm and fuzzy feelings from a company that buries their fees, not divulging them until you're already registered and they have your email address. How do you protect yourself? Apply to your Internet dealings the same good sense you try to use in everything else you do. However, on the Web you need to be more than just a little skeptical. As others have said, "Keep an open mind, but don't let your brain fall out!" Family ... it's what we're all about. I so enjoyed spending this time with you today. Thank you for sharing it with me. I wish each of you a week filled with health, productivity, fun, and above all, filled with love and inner peace. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

Have several brick walls in our Howells line. Please reply to list or email direct if you can shed any light on info below. Thanks! John R. Howells b. abt 1871 (may have been earlier, 1871 based on fact must have been 21 to marry) married Grace May McGinnis 22 Jul 1892 in Trumbull County, Ohio, later divorced. She was born 29 May 1874 in Youngstown and was the daughter of William H. McGinnis and Mary Morgan. One child this marriage: Vernon (aka Vern) William Howells b. 20 Apr 1893 Girard, Ohio d. 9 Jan 1943 Dayton Ohio. Married 4 times: Jessie L. Smaldon Jul 1917 in Cleveland Ohio, Elizabeth Elinor Magdaline Jozsa (my grandmother) was second marriage, then Esther Beardslee and Carmona ? (maiden name unknown). Don't have any further info on 1st, 3rd or 4th marriages. Grace May McGinnis later married Jesse Enos Woods in Jun 1899 in Youngstown, Ohio. One child Robert Woods (designer of X42 airplane) Seeking any info on John R., Vernon, and descendents. There are numerous John Howells listed in Ohio in 1880, and so far have been unable to determine which might be mine. Vernon has also been difficult to trace.... Ron Davison [email protected]

I am a subscriber and that is my web site. It has not been updated in a while; I have a bunch of changes in the database. I hope to get an update out soon. I have been trying to synch the database with Tom Donnelly's work, but it is slow going and I am very busy. Further, my @home e-mail will be changing next month - likely to [email protected] You can also reach me at [email protected] James W. Howell. ps: please don't respond to my fdic.gov email address. -----Original Message----- From: john t. roark [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 9:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [HOWELL] Jim and Sherri's Home Page --=====================_1011910456==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" http://www.jhowell.net/ I happened upon this from another of my family websites.Thought I would pass it on. Jeany --=====================_1011910456==_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [DEFAULT] BASEURL=http://www.jhowell.net/ [InternetShortcut] URL=http://www.jhowell.net/ Modified=0088F1FEF1A4C101CE --=====================_1011910456==_-- ______________________________

Cerise, This is what is on the 1880 census (shown below). It shows a Nancy J., Milton O., and James W. Howell. This information has been transcribed so the information could contain typos. I hope that this helps. Johnny Census Place: Precinct 1, Burnet, Texas Source: FHL Film 1255293 National Archives Film T9-1293 Page 112D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Harris W. HOWELL Self M M W 43 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- Nancy J. HOWELL Wife F M W 31 TN Occ: Keeping House Fa: TN Mo: AL William W. HOWELL Son M S W 13 AR Occ: Works On Farm Fa: AL Mo: --- Mary F. HOWELL Dau F S W 12 AR Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN Milton O. HOWELL Son M S W 10 AR Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN Harris W. HOWELL Son M S W 7 AR Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN Ida M. HOWELL Dau F S W 5 AR Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN Minnie M. HOWELL Dau F S W 3 AR Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN James W. HOWELL Son M S W 1 TX Occ: At Home Fa: AL Mo: TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cerise" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:53 AM Subject: [HOWELL] JAMES WATSON HOWELL > I am seeking information on my grandfather, JAMES WATSON HOWELL, d. > 2/10/1929, in > Lamesa, Texas. His mother was Nancy Jane Howell, b. in 1840 place unknown, > d. 9/13/1928, in Lamesa, TX. He was a constable and deputy sheriff and > rancher > in the Texas Panhandle area most of his adult life. He was married to > JO ELLA STANDIFER, b. 5/28/1879, d. 1/21/1965 in Lamesa, TX. > > I believe James Watson Howell had a brother named MILTON HOWELL, said to > have lived in > Gatesville, TX, and another brother who lived in Kenedy, TX. Another > brother (name unknown > to me) is said to have lived in Washington state. (Milton Howell had a > daughter named Bernice, > whose married name was Powell, said to have lived in Ft. Worth, TX.) > > Any help/information on this line will be appreciated! > > Cerise Blair > [email protected] > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. >

I am seeking information on my grandfather, JAMES WATSON HOWELL, d. 2/10/1929, in Lamesa, Texas. His mother was Nancy Jane Howell, b. in 1840 place unknown, d. 9/13/1928, in Lamesa, TX. He was a constable and deputy sheriff and rancher in the Texas Panhandle area most of his adult life. He was married to JO ELLA STANDIFER, b. 5/28/1879, d. 1/21/1965 in Lamesa, TX. I believe James Watson Howell had a brother named MILTON HOWELL, said to have lived in Gatesville, TX, and another brother who lived in Kenedy, TX. Another brother (name unknown to me) is said to have lived in Washington state. (Milton Howell had a daughter named Bernice, whose married name was Powell, said to have lived in Ft. Worth, TX.) Any help/information on this line will be appreciated! Cerise Blair [email protected]