Yes, I have looked in Ashe and Wayne Counties, NC.. Do you or anyone else have any information on the David Howel age 47, with wife Mary age 45.. listed on the 1850 Ashe Co., NC census?? I would be interested in hearing from his descendents.. Thanks for the info Jackie Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt Yes, in fact Andrew Calvin Howell and some of his relatives from Grayson County, Virginia settled in Ashe County, North Carolina! I believe a great many of our Brewer bunch did also. What have you found, if anything, on your Brewer/Morgan bunch??? Try Ashe County, N.C., which isn't that awfully far at all from Buncombe! In fact, I think this John Calvin Howell was probably already in Ashe County by 1844. Don't overlook some of the ones in Wayne County, N.C. too who descend from old Joshua Howell born in the 1760's in Dobbs County, N.C. All of them are probably related back in New Jersey or Delaware or Pennsylvania. Eventually, we may find a common ancestor. Keep in touch! Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacquelyn Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > Will wrote: > Howdy Cousin Andy! > Your John Calvin Howell, is probably a nephew of our John Howell who > married Nancy Brewer and moved to White County, TN. Is there any definite > proof as to Andrew Howell's parentage? Since he had a son named "John > Calvin", I lean towards the belief that he was our John's brother. Some have > him listed as a son of William Howell. We strongly believe our John was a > > > Will, > Did any of these Howell folks come thru North Carolina before moving on to TN? I have a William Howell b. 1844 in Buncombe Co., NC who married the daughter of William Morgan and Amelia (Millie) BREWER Morgan (from N.C., but moved to TN in 1845) in Jefferson Co., TN in 1866.. William Howell's death certificate says his father was John William Howell.. One of his (my William) son's was named Andrew Mack Howell and is my g grandfather.. We have not been able to locate any information on our William Howell before 1865.. Thanks > Jackie > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email at <[email protected]>.

Will wrote: Howdy Cousin Andy! Your John Calvin Howell, is probably a nephew of our John Howell who married Nancy Brewer and moved to White County, TN. Is there any definite proof as to Andrew Howell's parentage? Since he had a son named "John Calvin", I lean towards the belief that he was our John's brother. Some have him listed as a son of William Howell. We strongly believe our John was a Will, Did any of these Howell folks come thru North Carolina before moving on to TN? I have a William Howell b. 1844 in Buncombe Co., NC who married the daughter of William Morgan and Amelia (Millie) BREWER Morgan (from N.C., but moved to TN in 1845) in Jefferson Co., TN in 1866.. William Howell's death certificate says his father was John William Howell.. One of his (my William) son's was named Andrew Mack Howell and is my g grandfather.. We have not been able to locate any information on our William Howell before 1865.. Thanks Jackie

Not sure quite yet, but there was a David Howell up in old Montgomery County, VA who seems to be connected with Benjamin who died 1799, if memory serves me correctly. I'll keep my eyes out for info on him. Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacquelyn Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > Yes, I have looked in Ashe and Wayne Counties, NC.. Do you or anyone else have any information on the David Howel age 47, with wife Mary age 45.. listed on the 1850 Ashe Co., NC census?? I would be interested in hearing from his descendents.. Thanks for the info > Jackie > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > > > Yes, in fact Andrew Calvin Howell and some of his relatives from Grayson > County, Virginia settled in Ashe County, North Carolina! I believe a great > many of our Brewer bunch did also. What have you found, if anything, on your > Brewer/Morgan bunch??? Try Ashe County, N.C., which isn't that awfully far > at all from Buncombe! In fact, I think this John Calvin Howell was probably > already in Ashe County by 1844. > Don't overlook some of the ones in Wayne County, N.C. too who descend from > old Joshua Howell born in the 1760's in Dobbs County, N.C. > All of them are probably related back in New Jersey or Delaware or > Pennsylvania. Eventually, we may find a common ancestor. > Keep in touch! > Will > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jacquelyn Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:17 AM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > > > > Will wrote: > > Howdy Cousin Andy! > > Your John Calvin Howell, is probably a nephew of our John Howell who > > married Nancy Brewer and moved to White County, TN. Is there any definite > > proof as to Andrew Howell's parentage? Since he had a son named "John > > Calvin", I lean towards the belief that he was our John's brother. Some > have > > him listed as a son of William Howell. We strongly believe our John was a > > > > > > Will, > > Did any of these Howell folks come thru North Carolina before moving on to > TN? I have a William Howell b. 1844 in Buncombe Co., NC who married the > daughter of William Morgan and Amelia (Millie) BREWER Morgan (from N.C., but > moved to TN in 1845) in Jefferson Co., TN in 1866.. William Howell's death > certificate says his father was John William Howell.. One of his (my > William) son's was named Andrew Mack Howell and is my g grandfather.. We > have not been able to locate any information on our William Howell before > 1865.. Thanks > > Jackie > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This > infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > [email protected] >

Yes, in fact Andrew Calvin Howell and some of his relatives from Grayson County, Virginia settled in Ashe County, North Carolina! I believe a great many of our Brewer bunch did also. What have you found, if anything, on your Brewer/Morgan bunch??? Try Ashe County, N.C., which isn't that awfully far at all from Buncombe! In fact, I think this John Calvin Howell was probably already in Ashe County by 1844. Don't overlook some of the ones in Wayne County, N.C. too who descend from old Joshua Howell born in the 1760's in Dobbs County, N.C. All of them are probably related back in New Jersey or Delaware or Pennsylvania. Eventually, we may find a common ancestor. Keep in touch! Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacquelyn Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 11:17 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > Will wrote: > Howdy Cousin Andy! > Your John Calvin Howell, is probably a nephew of our John Howell who > married Nancy Brewer and moved to White County, TN. Is there any definite > proof as to Andrew Howell's parentage? Since he had a son named "John > Calvin", I lean towards the belief that he was our John's brother. Some have > him listed as a son of William Howell. We strongly believe our John was a > > > Will, > Did any of these Howell folks come thru North Carolina before moving on to TN? I have a William Howell b. 1844 in Buncombe Co., NC who married the daughter of William Morgan and Amelia (Millie) BREWER Morgan (from N.C., but moved to TN in 1845) in Jefferson Co., TN in 1866.. William Howell's death certificate says his father was John William Howell.. One of his (my William) son's was named Andrew Mack Howell and is my g grandfather.. We have not been able to locate any information on our William Howell before 1865.. Thanks > Jackie > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >

Howdy Cousin Andy! Your John Calvin Howell, is probably a nephew of our John Howell who married Nancy Brewer and moved to White County, TN. Is there any definite proof as to Andrew Howell's parentage? Since he had a son named "John Calvin", I lean towards the belief that he was our John's brother. Some have him listed as a son of William Howell. We strongly believe our John was a son of Capt. George Howell and Mary "Polly" Osborne, since George was the only Howell living in the immediate proximity of Elk Creek, where Lewis Brewer and Jacob Rhudy lived. John Howell married Nancy Brewer in Grayson County, March 12, 1811 Calvin Howell married Barbara Rhudy I think in 1807. He was a witness to the will of William Poole as was Richard Cole. Richard's son, Isaiah Cole, married Honor Howell in 1804. In August 1812, Calvin Howell, John Howell, and Richard Cole bought land in White County, TN. We find no further mention of Calvin after this, and I've not found anything else about Richard Cole. Capt. George Howell and a "widow" Sarah Howell had land on Turkey Fork of Elk Creek, while William Howell and James Howell lived down on the New River near Mouth of Wilson Creek. My John and Nancy Brewer Howell had sons a son named Andrew D. Howell born in 1835, and his twin brother was Tillman C. Howell. They also had a daughter (my 3rd great-granny) named Sarah Jane Howell, who was probably named after this widow Sarah Howell in Elk Creek. I hope someone can find some more info on her, as she's probably George Howell's mother! Keep in touch! Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Graham" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 6:51 AM Subject: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > Good morning, > > (Glad to see cousin Willie Smith back with us). I have a few tidbits to > offer on the discussion of ancestors of the SouthWest Virginia Howells. > > I discovered in the library yesterday a book "Loudoun County Virginia > Tithables, 1758-1786" which gives ,using { } to group in households > > 1762 {Hugh Howel, William Howel}, and {John Howel} > 1765 {Hugh Howell}, and {William Howell} > 1767 {Hugh Howell}, {Hezichiah Howell}, {John Howell, Charles Howell} > 1768 {Hugh Howell, Abner Howell}, {Daniel Howell}, {Timothy Howell}, > {John Howell, Jr.} > 1769 {Hugh Howell, Andrew Howell, John Howell} > > When this is compared with the list given by Jeannette (on Tuesday), we > can get a bit more information. For example, the Daniel Howell listed > above could not be Hugh's son, since he would have been only 11 years > old in 1768, and not old enough to be counted. > > Also, from the book Related Families of Botetourt County, VA by J. > William Austin II and Rebecca H.R. Austin, in an addendum, there is a > family history for Abner Howell. He was granted 329 acres on Wolf > Creek, Botetourt Co., in 1794 also Charles Howell was granted 40 acres > on Wolf Creek in 1795, adjoining Thomas Akers, David JAMES, and his own > land. > > The authors speculate "Charles and Abner were probably brothers, for > both served in Captain Rawlings Company of the Revolutionary Army, in > 1787, as had Daniel and John Howell. Benjamin, Joshua and Daniel Howell > had served in Captain Easom's Company." > > I am a descendent of John Calvin Howell of Grayson (1818-1905), son of > Andrew Howell, listed in Joe Bowers email from last week. I'll post a > separate message about some questions I have in relation to my (known) > ancestors, and possible connections to the Hugh Howell family. > > andy graham > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > [email protected] >

Again, I'm quoting from the book I mentioned yesterday, written by Richard Wallace, Robert Cameron and Carmen Finley: page 34 - "It's interesting to speculate that Timothy Howell was the father of one of the Abners we found in Loudon County. However, Timothy's 1794 will does not list Abner as an heir. The will refers to Samuel, Mahlon and Thomas. Incidentally this will has a Quaker style date (5th day of 2nd month 1794). Timothy and his wife Rebecca, have been found in Virginia Quaker records, but Abner was not found there." The citation for the will indicates it can be found in Loudon County VA Will Book E:22. The authors of this book looked at all the Howells in Loudon County in 1771, including Hugh Howell and his family. They then tried to match up the information into families. They found eight families or households bearing the Howell name, and the methods they used to attempt to sort them out are excellent examples of careful genealogical work. If you can find the book in your area, it may be worth studying. Jeannette ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Ref:Grayson, Loudoun, Botetourt > In a message dated 02/28/2002 7:51:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > > > 1768 {Hugh Howell, Abner Howell}, {Daniel Howell}, {Timothy Howell}, > > {John Howell, Jr.} > > > > Does anyone know what became of the Timothy Howell mentioned above? > Thanks, > Jackie Howell > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >

In a message dated 02/28/2002 7:51:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > 1768 {Hugh Howell, Abner Howell}, {Daniel Howell}, {Timothy Howell}, > {John Howell, Jr.} > Does anyone know what became of the Timothy Howell mentioned above? Thanks, Jackie Howell

Good morning, (Glad to see cousin Willie Smith back with us). I have a few tidbits to offer on the discussion of ancestors of the SouthWest Virginia Howells. I discovered in the library yesterday a book "Loudoun County Virginia Tithables, 1758-1786" which gives ,using { } to group in households 1762 {Hugh Howel, William Howel}, and {John Howel} 1765 {Hugh Howell}, and {William Howell} 1767 {Hugh Howell}, {Hezichiah Howell}, {John Howell, Charles Howell} 1768 {Hugh Howell, Abner Howell}, {Daniel Howell}, {Timothy Howell}, {John Howell, Jr.} 1769 {Hugh Howell, Andrew Howell, John Howell} When this is compared with the list given by Jeannette (on Tuesday), we can get a bit more information. For example, the Daniel Howell listed above could not be Hugh's son, since he would have been only 11 years old in 1768, and not old enough to be counted. Also, from the book Related Families of Botetourt County, VA by J. William Austin II and Rebecca H.R. Austin, in an addendum, there is a family history for Abner Howell. He was granted 329 acres on Wolf Creek, Botetourt Co., in 1794 also Charles Howell was granted 40 acres on Wolf Creek in 1795, adjoining Thomas Akers, David JAMES, and his own land. The authors speculate "Charles and Abner were probably brothers, for both served in Captain Rawlings Company of the Revolutionary Army, in 1787, as had Daniel and John Howell. Benjamin, Joshua and Daniel Howell had served in Captain Easom's Company." I am a descendent of John Calvin Howell of Grayson (1818-1905), son of Andrew Howell, listed in Joe Bowers email from last week. I'll post a separate message about some questions I have in relation to my (known) ancestors, and possible connections to the Hugh Howell family. andy graham

Our William Howell was born 1794 Winchester Va and married Dorcas Fawcett born 3-13-1804 in Winchester and died 9-30-1861 buried Livingston, Wi - Children are Lewis, Abel, Eunice, Mary, Naomi, Almeda, Nancy and Lucretia. Supposely came to Ohio and then Wisconsin. Lewis Howell wrote: > > Re pirates, this is not very valuable data, but there is a book on > pirates, found in many public libraries, that does list a John Howell, > captured and/or convicted. Seemed to be 17th century; could that be the > same John as served with Rackham and Bonny? Lew Howell > > On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:19:42 EST [email protected] writes: > > With respect to Hugh Howell and connection with Captain Kidd a > > letter > > from Carol to Jeanette states that a John Howell was hanged for > > piracy in > > 1701 for his services to Kidd 3 days after Kidd was hanged,Would > > like source > > of this information or any other tidbits. > > Found a James Howe and others tried for piracy along with Kidd. > > James > > Howe and others were pardoned. > > Found a John Howel who was tried for piracy along with Captain > > John > > Rackam and Ann Bonny at Spanish Town, Jamaica. They were hung in > > 1720, a much > > later time period. > > > > > > Don > > > > period. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > > [email protected] (mail mode) or > > [email protected] (digest) with the word unsubscribe in > > the subject line. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > [email protected]

We were always told if we could get back far enough we would prove we were related to Daniel Boone. Looking for William Howell connection who died in Wisconsin, buried in Rock Cemetery in Livingston, Wi 1845 Dean Vogel [email protected] Lewis Howell wrote: > > Hi--the area involved is western St. Charles County, MO. I would like to > exchange data with anyone interested in this area, especially to extend, > update, or correct Lillian Oliver's data in "Some Boone Descendants..." > Her publication was as near as I recall 1956. Perhaps some more recent > descendants of the Boone, Callaway, Hays, Stewart, Howell and other > families she wrote about are now into genealogy. Hope to read more on > this. Lew Howell (CA) > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2002 00:24:40 EST [email protected] writes: > > Hi Dix, > > Thanks for the info on the HOWELL Settlement. That is my HOWELL > > line. > > Linda > > [email protected] > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > To post messages to the Howell discussion list, send them to > > [email protected] > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list.

Will and Others, I do not know the SC location for Abigail Sumpter/Sumter. Sorry! Micki << I find it interesting that Hugh would have sons named Daniel, Abner, Andrew, Benjamin, John, William, etc...which are precisely the same names we're seeing in the area of Montgomery, Bedford, and Grayson Counties. Perhaps he named his sons after BROTHERS??? Does anyone know who Hugh's parents were? I seem to recall he may also have been from the New Jersey area? I think we're onto something here...Funny how sometimes these things just sort of fall into our laps for us to digest and put together. I think the Elijah Howell I referred to earlier was in Laurens County, S.C., and his father John Howell was born in Virginia. Was this Ms. Sumter you mention here by chance in Laurens County, S.C.? If so, then we have a probable connection to Elijah Howell there as well. Thanks, Will >>

Looking for my father's step father who adopted him and gave him the last name Howell. Don't have a first name. Time span was 1890's. Regards, Tbird

Washington County, TN adjoins SouthWest Virginia, and is within shouting distance from Grayson County. So, your Nancy is undoubtedly related to OUR bunch somehow. I'd love to figure out who her parents were!!!!! Will ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dixie Lea in KC" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:19 PM Subject: [HOWELL] Nancy J. Howell... > Hi, > I'd like to get in there, somewhere... > My Nancy J. Howell married John R. Settles in Washington Co. Tenn. > 1840... She named a son Tilman... > Was that just the "name of the day" or a real clue ??? > Thanks, > Dix... > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please avoid flaming (attacking) any single person or the group. This infraction will earn you immediate removal from the list. >

I find it interesting that Hugh would have sons named Daniel, Abner, Andrew, Benjamin, John, William, etc...which are precisely the same names we're seeing in the area of Montgomery, Bedford, and Grayson Counties. Perhaps he named his sons after BROTHERS??? Does anyone know who Hugh's parents were? I seem to recall he may also have been from the New Jersey area? I think we're onto something here...Funny how sometimes these things just sort of fall into our laps for us to digest and put together. I think the Elijah Howell I referred to earlier was in Laurens County, S.C., and his father John Howell was born in Virginia. Was this Ms. Sumter you mention here by chance in Laurens County, S.C.? If so, then we have a probable connection to Elijah Howell there as well. Thanks, Will ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Howell's of NJ and Loudon County, VA > Hi Cousins and Will, > > If anyone can prove Hugh Howell was related to Benjamin Howell (1735-1799) > then they will also be related to Joshua Howell (1745-1836). Benjamin oldest > son Daniel was born in Philadelphia - 1856-1836. Joshua migrated from SW VA > into Champaign Co, OH in 1808 and died in Delaware Co, IN in 1836. > > The name Tilman (Tighman) also is known in the Joshua line - a great grandson > born in Delaware County, moved back to SC to his mother's area after the > Civil War. His mother's name was Abigail Sumpter (Sumter) who was born in > 1790. > > It was make quite a few people happy if we can establish the relationship of > Benjamin and Joshua to someone - so far we can't connect them with anyone > else. > > Micki in Central Florida > > In a message dated 2/25/02 9:40:43 PM, [email protected] writes: > > << I'm beginning to wonder if ol' Hugh Howell who died 1777 in Loudon County, > > Va isn't the ancestor of the Howells down in SouthWest Virginia, especially > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799? > > Anyone have Hugh's parents? Could there be a connection between Hugh and > > Elijah Howell of Laurens County, S.C.??? James Howell who married Jane > > Copeland in Grayson County, VA had a son named Elijah. If memory serves me > > correctly they moved West into Illinois. Interestingly, Elijah of S.C. had a > > son named Tilman Howell. > > John Howell (1788-1861) who married Nancy Brewer in Grayson County, VA > > had a son named Tillman C. Howell, born 1835 in White County, TN. Someone > > reported that Tillman's middle name was "Cantrell". Any proof of this? A > > Tillman Cantrell DID reside briefly in Warren county, TN, where John > > Howell's sister Drucilla (Howell) Hash lived (Rock Island). Drucilla was the > > wife of Thomas Hash. > > Hope someone can help us trace back beyond Montgomery County, VA. > > Thanks > > Will >> > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. >

Hi Cousins and Will, If anyone can prove Hugh Howell was related to Benjamin Howell (1735-1799) then they will also be related to Joshua Howell (1745-1836). Benjamin oldest son Daniel was born in Philadelphia - 1856-1836. Joshua migrated from SW VA into Champaign Co, OH in 1808 and died in Delaware Co, IN in 1836. The name Tilman (Tighman) also is known in the Joshua line - a great grandson born in Delaware County, moved back to SC to his mother's area after the Civil War. His mother's name was Abigail Sumpter (Sumter) who was born in 1790. It was make quite a few people happy if we can establish the relationship of Benjamin and Joshua to someone - so far we can't connect them with anyone else. Micki in Central Florida In a message dated 2/25/02 9:40:43 PM, [email protected] writes: << I'm beginning to wonder if ol' Hugh Howell who died 1777 in Loudon County, Va isn't the ancestor of the Howells down in SouthWest Virginia, especially Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799? Anyone have Hugh's parents? Could there be a connection between Hugh and Elijah Howell of Laurens County, S.C.??? James Howell who married Jane Copeland in Grayson County, VA had a son named Elijah. If memory serves me correctly they moved West into Illinois. Interestingly, Elijah of S.C. had a son named Tilman Howell. John Howell (1788-1861) who married Nancy Brewer in Grayson County, VA had a son named Tillman C. Howell, born 1835 in White County, TN. Someone reported that Tillman's middle name was "Cantrell". Any proof of this? A Tillman Cantrell DID reside briefly in Warren county, TN, where John Howell's sister Drucilla (Howell) Hash lived (Rock Island). Drucilla was the wife of Thomas Hash. Hope someone can help us trace back beyond Montgomery County, VA. Thanks Will >>

Hi, I'd like to get in there, somewhere... My Nancy J. Howell married John R. Settles in Washington Co. Tenn. 1840... She named a son Tilman... Was that just the "name of the day" or a real clue ??? Thanks, Dix...

I have not read the entire book, and in any case, probably wouldn't remember the places, only the names, but I scanned it briefly again, and found none of these places mentioned. It appears that this Howell family stayed in Loudon County until their move to Muskingum County, OH, probably after the revolutionary War, in about 1783, since that seems to be the last mention of them in the VA tax lists. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marsha Howell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > Do Any of these Howell in "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > Points West" ever settle for a time in Lewis, Randolph, Harrison or Kanawha, > Counties Virginia in the late 1700's? > > Marsha > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:44 AM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. > Finley, > > published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. > > > > "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified > from > > his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or > > approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. > > > > i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. > > ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. > > v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. > > vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. > > vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. > > viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. > > ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " > > > > This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and > > proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be > very > > useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really > > careful to prove eveything they write. > > > > Jeannette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > Joe, > > > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. I'm > > > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from > > Loudon > > > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > > > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, Abner, > > > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > > > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment > what > > > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > > > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if the > > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > > > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David > and > > > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > > > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in > Loudon > > > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and Osborne > > > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > > > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on > Turkey > > > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who I'm > > > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and > William > > > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > > > three. > > > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born > about > > > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > > > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was married > > to > > > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt County, > > > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and > some > > > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy > Brewer > > > Howell of White County, TN. > > > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I > betcha > > > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, VA > > > will of 1777. > > > Will Smith > > > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > > > Missouri, > > > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and Agnes > > > Cason. > > > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same > > time > > > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my > husband > > > in > > > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, Higgins, > > > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my own > > > > (Hill). > > > > > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines > in > > > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed as > > > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one > > researched > > > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., Virginia. > > I > > > > don't know what's right. > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > > > To: Howell List > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in > Grayson > > > Co., > > > > > VA > > > > > > Children; > > > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and Elizabeth > > > Avent > > > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > > > James Howell > > > > > > George Howell > > > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > > > Jane Howell > > > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > > > Mahala > > > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has > been > > > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and that > > > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John and > > > Nancy > > > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland > DAVIS > > in > > > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca > > Reese > > > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., > IL > > > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 and > > > lost > > > > > track of him! > > > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first wife > > > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 was > > John > > > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > > > Andrew > > > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son > Elijah > > > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel > Howell > > > and > > > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and > sources > > > for > > > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth > > HASH. > > > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these > families! > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie Smith, > > > > another > > > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, any > > help > > > > is > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe > Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > email > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > email > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > > [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] > > (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. >

Hi Jeanette, Thank you for looking for me. Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:16 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > I have not read the entire book, and in any case, probably wouldn't remember > the places, only the names, but I scanned it briefly again, and found none > of these places mentioned. It appears that this Howell family stayed in > Loudon County until their move to Muskingum County, OH, probably after the > revolutionary War, in about 1783, since that seems to be the last mention of > them in the VA tax lists. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marsha Howell" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 2:19 PM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > Do Any of these Howell in "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > Points West" ever settle for a time in Lewis, Randolph, Harrison or > Kanawha, > > Counties Virginia in the late 1700's? > > > > Marsha > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > > > Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. > > Finley, > > > published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. > > > > > > "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified > > from > > > his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or > > > approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. > > > > > > i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. > > > ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > > iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > > > iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. > > > v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. > > > vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. > > > vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. > > > viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. > > > ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " > > > > > > This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and > > > proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be > > very > > > useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really > > > careful to prove eveything they write. > > > > > > Jeannette > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > Joe, > > > > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. > I'm > > > > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from > > > Loudon > > > > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > > > > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, > Abner, > > > > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > > > > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment > > what > > > > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > > > > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if > the > > > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > > > > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David > > and > > > > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > > > > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in > > Loudon > > > > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and > Osborne > > > > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > > > > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on > > Turkey > > > > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who > I'm > > > > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and > > William > > > > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > > > > three. > > > > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born > > about > > > > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > > > > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was > married > > > to > > > > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt > County, > > > > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and > > some > > > > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy > > Brewer > > > > Howell of White County, TN. > > > > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I > > betcha > > > > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, > VA > > > > will of 1777. > > > > Will Smith > > > > [email protected] > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > > > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > > > > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > > > > Missouri, > > > > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and > Agnes > > > > Cason. > > > > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same > > > time > > > > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > > > > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my > > husband > > > > in > > > > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, > Higgins, > > > > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my > own > > > > > (Hill). > > > > > > > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines > > in > > > > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed > as > > > > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one > > > researched > > > > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., > Virginia. > > > I > > > > > don't know what's right. > > > > > > > > > > Diane > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > > > > To: Howell List > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in > > Grayson > > > > Co., > > > > > > VA > > > > > > > Children; > > > > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and > Elizabeth > > > > Avent > > > > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > > > > James Howell > > > > > > > George Howell > > > > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > > > > Jane Howell > > > > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > > > > Mahala > > > > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has > > been > > > > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and > that > > > > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John > and > > > > Nancy > > > > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland > > DAVIS > > > in > > > > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca > > > Reese > > > > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., > > IL > > > > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 > and > > > > lost > > > > > > track of him! > > > > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first > wife > > > > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 > was > > > John > > > > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > > > > Andrew > > > > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son > > Elijah > > > > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel > > Howell > > > > and > > > > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and > > sources > > > > for > > > > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth > > > HASH. > > > > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these > > families! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie > Smith, > > > > > another > > > > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, > any > > > help > > > > > is > > > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe > > Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > > email > > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > > email > > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > email > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > > > [email protected] (mail mode) or > [email protected] > > > (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >

I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. Finley, published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified from his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be very useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really careful to prove eveything they write. Jeannette ----- Original Message ----- From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > Joe, > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. I'm > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from Loudon > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, Abner, > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment what > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if the > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David and > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in Loudon > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and Osborne > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on Turkey > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who I'm > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and William > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > three. > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born about > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was married to > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt County, > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and some > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy Brewer > Howell of White County, TN. > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I betcha > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, VA > will of 1777. > Will Smith > [email protected] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > Missouri, > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and Agnes > Cason. > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same time > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my husband > in > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, Higgins, > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my own > > (Hill). > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines in > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed as > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one researched > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., Virginia. I > > don't know what's right. > > > > Diane > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > To: Howell List > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in Grayson > Co., > > > VA > > > > Children; > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and Elizabeth > Avent > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > James Howell > > > > George Howell > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > Jane Howell > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > Mahala > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has been > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and that > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John and > Nancy > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland DAVIS in > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca Reese > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., IL > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 and > lost > > > track of him! > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first wife > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 was John > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > Andrew > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son Elijah > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel Howell > and > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and sources > for > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth HASH. > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these families! > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie Smith, > > another > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, any help > > is > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. >

Do Any of these Howell in "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and Points West" ever settle for a time in Lewis, Randolph, Harrison or Kanawha, Counties Virginia in the late 1700's? Marsha ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeannette Phethean" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > I'm quoting from the book "The Howells of New Jersey, Virginia, Ohio and > Points West" by Richard E. Wallace, Robert W. Cameron and Carmen J. Finley, > published in1994 by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD. > > "The children of Hugh and Margaret (Hixon) Howell have been identified from > his 1777 will. Their names will be restated, along with their actual or > approximate dates of birth an d their birth places. > > i. William Howell, born about 1745, in New Jersey. > ii. Andrew Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > iii. John Howell, born about 1753, in New Jersey. > iv. Abner Howell, born before 1755, in New Jersey. > v. Benjamin Howell, born about 1755, in New Jersey. > vi. Daniel Howell, born about 1757, in New Jersey. > vii. Reuben Howell, born 26 Frbruary 1762, near Trenton, New Jersey. > viii. Rachel Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey or Virginia. > ix. Ann Howell, born before March 1777, in New Jersey of Virginia. " > > This book follows the family to about 1850, with much documentation and > proofs of the statements made in it. If oyu can find a copy, it will be very > useful. I believe it is out of print now. The three authors are really > careful to prove eveything they write. > > Jeannette > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Willie D Smith" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:04 PM > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > Joe, > > I is right here! The names "Elijah" and "Andrew" are interesting. I'm > > wondering if perhaps our Howells in Grayson County, Virginia are from > Loudon > > County, Va and related to Hugh Howell's family? > > Hugh Howell died with a will in 1777, and names sons Benjamin, Abner, > > John, and other names quite familiar to us in SouthWest Virginia! > > Old Elijah Howell was down in South Carolina, forget at the moment what > > county he was in, but his father John Howell was born in Virginia. I'm > > wondering if perhaps his father was John Howell, son of Hugh? And if the > > Benjamin Howell who died in Montgomery County, VA in 1799 isn't really > > Benjamin Howell son of Hugh? Didn't Benjamin have brothers named David and > > Abner? These are also names listed as sons of Hugh Howell. Hopefully, > > someone on this list list is familiar with the Hugh Howell line in Loudon > > County, Virginia. I'm also interested in seeing if the Hash and Osborne > > families were also in Loudon before showing up in SW Virginia. > > George Howell is an interesting fellow. He shows up with land on Turkey > > Fork of Elk Creek in the early 1780's with a widow Sarah Howell who I'm > > convinced is either a sister-in-law or mother of George, James and William > > Howell. It seems our Grayson bunch are all descended from one of those > > three. > > Now, Hugh's son OLD Abner, went up into Pennsylvania, and was born about > > 1744, so he's old enough to have been a father or uncle to these older > > Howells. Also, the Abner down in Botetourt (and Montgomery?) was married > to > > a Hannah JAMES. I'm wondering if her James family was from Pitt County, > > N.C.? This James family is connected to my LaFevers in Tennessee, and some > > of the LaFevers are intermarried with descendants of John and Nancy Brewer > > Howell of White County, TN. > > Lets see what we can come up with on old Hugh Howell's bunch! I betcha > > there's a connection. I wasn't aware previously of his Loudon County, VA > > will of 1777. > > Will Smith > > [email protected] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike and Diane Midkiff" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 12:39 AM > > Subject: Re: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > Your e-mail greatly intrigues me for two reasons: > > > > > > My 2g-grandmother, Susan Permelia Howell, was born in Andrew Co., > > Missouri, > > > in 1847, and raised there by her grandparents, James Howell and Agnes > > Cason. > > > My Howells and your Howells were in Andrew Co., Missouri at the same > time > > > ... do you have any idea if they could be related? > > > > > > Also, if they are related, I've researched numerous lines for my husband > > in > > > Grayson Co., VA/Ashe and Alleghany Co., NC (Toliver, Spurlin, Higgins, > > > Hampton, Cox, Collins, Davis, Stamper, etc ...) and one line of my own > > > (Hill). > > > > > > So I'd like very much to hear what you know about other Howell lines in > > > Andrew Co., MO. I know my 4g-grandfather, James Howell, was listed as > > > James, Jr. on his marriage certificate, although I've seen one > researched > > > try to place him as the son of Samuel Howell of Loudoun Co., Virginia. > I > > > don't know what's right. > > > > > > Diane > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:08 AM > > > > Subject: [HOWELL] Fw: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: Jos. W. Bower > > > > > To: Howell List > > > > > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 8:34 AM > > > > > Subject: Roll Call-Grayson Co., VA>TN>MO>West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greetings from a Howell List Lurker! > > > > > > > > > > William Howell ma. Elizabeth Hash ca. 1779, probably not in Grayson > > Co., > > > > VA > > > > > Children; > > > > > John Howell ma. Nancy Baker, dau. Rev. Andrew Baker and Elizabeth > > Avent > > > > ca. 1800 (This is my line) > > > > > William Howell ma. Sarah Halsey > > > > > James Howell > > > > > George Howell > > > > > Andrew Howell > > > > > Mary Howell ma. David Gilham > > > > > Jane Howell > > > > > Ruth Howell ma. John Phipps > > > > > Elizabeth Howell ma. William Long, Jr. > > > > > Mahala > > > > > Lydia ma. James Cole > > > > > Most of these Howells have Grayson County connections. It has been > > > > assumed that William ma. Elizabeth Hash in either PA or NJ and that > > > > Elizabeth was the dau. of Old John Hash. My line runs from John and > > Nancy > > > > (Baker) Howell, their children are; > > > > > Elijah Preston Howell b. 11DEC1803 ma. Margaret Jane Moreland DAVIS > in > > > > Santa Clara, CA; > > > > > James Madison Howell b. 21OCT1805 ma. (?) in TN and 2nd Rebecca > Reese > > > > JAMESON in GA > > > > > Alvin Tipton Howell b. ca. 1807 ma. Mahala CROUCH in Morgan Co., IL > > > > > Gula Elma Howell b. ca 1809 ma. David B. McELROY in Clay Co., MO > > > > > Jane Howell b. ca 1811 > > > > > Henry Harrison Howell b. ca.1813 > > > > > Andrew Baker Howell b. ca 1815 > > > > > Elizabeth Avent Howell b. ca 1817 ma. James S. CATE in MO > > > > > William Brazelton Howell b. ca 1818 > > > > > Rebecca Jameson Howell b. ca 1819 ma Tazwell Jones in MO > > > > > John Jackson Howell b. ca 1820, went to CA with Elijah in 1850 and > > lost > > > > track of him! > > > > > Francis Marion Howell > > > > > George Washington Howell > > > > > My line again goes through James Madison Howell and his first wife > > > > (unknown) he ma. in TN. James' first two children with wife #1 was > John > > > > Dickerson Howell (my line) and Harriet Melcena "Cena" Howell. > > > > > John Dickerson Howell b. TN 29APR1833 ma. 1st Elizabeth PIPER in > > Andrew > > > > Co., MO and had the following children; > > > > > James B. Howell b. 31JAN1854 > > > > > Julia Elma Howell b. 6AUG1856 ma. Jacob COOK 1877 in MO > > > > > Elijah Franklin Howell b. 12DEC1858 ma. Rebecca J. DAVIS in MO > > > > > Nancy Elizabeth Howell b. 23NOV1861 ma John SMITH in MO > > > > > > > > > > Harriet Melcena Howell b. ca 1829 ma. Jonas COOK in MO > > > > > > > > > > I am descended from John D. Howell and Elizabeth PIPER's son Elijah > > > > Franklin Howell and Rebecca J. DAVIS then through John Samuel Howell > > and > > > > Cordia Mae Jenkins, my Grandparents. > > > > > > > > > > I would like information and help in establishing proof and sources > > for > > > > any and all ancestral connections for William HOWELL and Elizabeth > HASH. > > > > Would also appreciate information and connections with these families! > > > > > > > > > > ALSO, does anyone know how I can get in contact with Willie Smith, > > > another > > > > Howell researcher, I haven't seen or heard from him in a while, any > help > > > is > > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you in advance from a HOWELL List LURKER!! Later...Joe Bower! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an > email > > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > > > at <[email protected]>. > > > > > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from the HOWELL discussion list, send a message to > [email protected] (mail mode) or [email protected] > (digest) with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > > > > ==== HOWELL Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <[email protected]>. >