The WORLD WAR I CIVILIAN DRAFT REGISTRATION database contains 1,215,381 records reflecting 141,114 surnames of all registrants born 1872-1900 from about 15% of U.S. counties. http://userdb.rootsweb.com/ww1/draft/ ----------------------------- ALSO.... For those states and counties that have not been transcribed yet the LDS Family History Center can order them for you.... I have been researching these records for several years and just love them... they will even tell if the gent was bald or not :) They tell who they were working for, where they lived, who the next of kin was, their birth day and place...the height, weight if I am not mistaken, and also there is a place where they can tell why they should NOT go to war..... I highly advise this record... Jeannie <><

I am forwarding this as I feel that it is important especially for the newbies on the list. Jeannie <>< To: KYRESEARCH@rootsweb.com Subject: TIP #292 - DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT - THE CENSUS I have "hit" upon this topic before, but more and more I see new researchers, and some more experienced ones - just taking as Gospel truth everything they find. This might be from web sites, files, letters .... if someone else has it this way, it must be true. Not so! I have been doing genealogy for twenty-eight years now and still am finding my mistakes. Genealogy is not an exact science; we will never have everything right. But, we can do the best we can. If you pick up information, investigate it, dissect it, chew it over and sometimes, spit it out! It's lovely to be able to trace our family tree to famous political or historical characters, or tie into royalty. But ... some of us just can't do it. We just come from the average every-day pioneer stock. Just because the first name or the last name ties in with someone in a famous family, doesn't mean it's the same person. I'm sure there were a lot of namesakes for John Quincy Adams, George Washington or Daniel Boone. But, is OUR Daniel Boone THE Daniel Boone? Sometimes our ancestors were well-written; sometimes we throw a party if we can find them anywhere. They seemed to hide out at census taking time, didn't fight in any battles, never served on any juries, got married under an alias - whatever! But, they are our family and we do want to find them. Sometimes we find the "skeleton in the closet" too .... it's not our fault! One of the first and most important sources for our family tree search of course, is the census. Finding our family on an early census is wonderful but we need to be aware that there are built in problems with the census records as with any other printed source. George Washington was the one responsible for seeing that a 10-year census was taken in the United States. It became law in 1790 and is still proceeding. Realizing that in 1790, our country only had about 3,231,533 people; it wasn't quite as difficult as it is today. Slaves an Indians weren't counted - the government was more interested in the number of men who might be able to serve in the military if we again entered into a major war. Memories of the Revolutionary War were quite fresh in the minds of our leaders and many of those who had fought in that war were getting up in years. The English saw to it that most of the 1790 census was destroyed during the War of 1812. The only remaining records that provide data on the people of that census is from the tax records, and of course, only the head of household is listed, no females shown. It was also determined that the results of a census had to remain private for 72 years. One can understand the reasoning behind this - people might be more prone to snoop into private information or give false answers if they thought the whole world knew the real facts! The latest census available for public research is the 1920 census. Legally, the censuses cannot be copied or microfilmed until the end of the 72 years and this takes time too. Why there are errors on the census you might ask? Well, the main blame falls on the census takers and the people who answered the questions, and the transcriptions of the data ..... the list is endless. The census taker was a man ... just an ordinary man who was selected for the task. Like in today's world, some took the job more seriously than others. If the man could write (no matter how well), he was picked. He might be of French, Scotch, Irish or German background - hearing the names differently (as a Kentucky transplant I understand that!). His handwriting might be scribbled. They got tired, missed houses, got false information. Not all were uneducated of course - they could be farmers needing extra money on a year when the crops weren't doing well, teachers .... so we can't classify them all as uneducated. Thankfully, most of them lived in the area of enumeration however. Most were diligent and the results are as perfect as they could provide. They earned money - and it was hard-earned! No speedy cars - but by horseback, house after house. If we attempt to follow the trail of the census taker on his loyal steed, we might become quite disorganized. There were no specific laws on how this was to be done - they just said giddy-up go and took off for the nearest farm or house. Thus - even though the house numbers shown follow in sequential order, it did not necessarily mean that the two houses were next to each other. He could zigzag all over the place, cutting through the woods, coming back to houses where he had found no one at home earlier. He could cut home for dinner and then take out in a different direction, but the house numbers remained in order. Mary and Martha, having a neighborly back yard talk might show up many pages apart Most of the time, the people answering the census taker's questions were adult. But ... the weary census taker, hot from a long day's work, might have to resort to asking children or great-grandma the questions. Can you imagine him asking a 7 year old boy where his parents were born, how old they were, how many children in the family? Or great-grandma who sometimes couldn't even remember her own name! If you do a comparison over several censuses, you might find the state of birth bouncing from state to state and ages all over the place. Until you have the actual date of birth, you have to do an averaging game; ages could vary up to 10 years from census to census. Some women got younger on every census, children's names varied from Charles to Charley to C. W. to Boy .... So, in your first step of documentation using the census, beware! Compare the census records carefully. A child not shown? Were they born in the right time frame to be listed? Had they died right after the census was taken? Were they the child of the head of household or a relative living with them? Chart them out - then start trying to fill in the missing gaps or correcting the wrong information from other sources. (c) Copyright 18 May 2000, Sandra K. Gorin, All Rights reserved. sgorin@glasgow-ky.com Col. 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> THE FOUR STAGES OF LIFE: > 1) You believe in Santa Claus > 2) You don't believe in Santa Claus. > 3) You are Santa Claus > 4) You look like Santa Claus

Good morning and Happy Mothers Day to all of you Mom's out there. I am leaving here in a few and won't be home to send out the proper greeting, and besides you guys on the list would not appreciate a loverly Mothers Day Card, so just doing it this way... Have a great weekend..... Jeannie <><

Good morning every one... Well something is kaput on some of the lists OR.... We just aren't paying attention to what we are doing ( and that includes me too) and the mail is coming to me instead of the lists... SO..... if we would all just sorta remember to check when we reply that it is going where we want it instead of to me I would appreciate it.... When I get back on Monday and have more time, I will go in and check to see that everything is checked off correctly..... Thanks LOADS..... Jeannie <><

> 1 1 YOU > 2 2 parents > 3 4 grandparents > 4 8 great grandparents > 5 16 gg grandparents > 6 32 ggg grandparents > 7 64 gggg grandparents > 8 128 ggggg grandparents > 9 256 gggggg grandparents > 10 512 ggggggg grandparents > 11 1,024 gggggggg grandparents > 12 2,048 ggggggggg grandparents > 13 4,096 gggggggggg grandparents > 14 8,192 ggggggggggg grandparents > 15 16,184 gggggggggggg grandparents > 16 32,768 ggggggggggggg grandparents > 17 65,536 gggggggggggggg grandparents > 18 131,072 ggggggggggggggg grandparents > 19 262,144 gggggggggggggggg grandparents > 20 524,288 ggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 21 1,048,576 gggggggggggggggggg grandparents > 22 2,097,152 ggggggggggggggggggg grandparents WOW! Over 2 million! <THUD!> <picking self up off the floor> Guess we'd better get to work!

Money It can buy a House But not a Home It can buy a Bed But not Sleep It can buy a Clock But not Time It can buy you a Book But not Knowledge It can buy you a Position But not Respect It can buy you Medicine But not Health It can buy you Blood But not Life So you see money isn't everything. I tell you all this because I am your Friend, and as your Friend I want to take away your pain and suffering... so send me all your money and I will suffer for you. A truer Friend than me you will never find. CASH ONLY PLEASE.

Check this out. click on and enter your birthday.. this will tell you newspaper headlines on the day you were born, sports headlines for the year, popular songs of the year, the price of a house, milk etc. <http://dmarie.com/timecap/>

Could You Have Passed the 8th Grade in 1895? Probably Not...Take a Look: This is the eighth-grade final exam from 1895 from Salina, Kansas. It was taken from the original document on file at the Smoky Valley Genealogical Society and Library in Salina, Kansas and reprinted by the Salina Journal. 8th Grade Final Exam: Salina, Kansas - 1895 Grammar (Time, one hour) 1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters. 2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications. 3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph. 4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run. 5. Define Case, Illustrate each Case. 6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation. 7-10. Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar. Arithmetic (Time, 1.25 hours) 1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic. 2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold? 3. If a load of wheat weighs 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. per bu, deducting 1050 lbs. for tare? 4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals? 5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton. 6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 percent. 7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $.20 per inch? 8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 percent. 9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods? 10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt. U.S. History (Time, 45 minutes) 1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided. 2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus. 3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War. 4. Show the territorial growth of the United States. 5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas. 6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion. 7. Who were the following: Morse, Whitney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe? 8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620,1800,1849, and 1865? Orthography (Time, one hour) 1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthography, etymology, syllabication? 2. What are elementary sounds? How classified? 3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals? 4. Give four substitutes for caret 'u'. 5. Give two rules for spelling words with final 'e'. Name two exceptions under each rule. 6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each. 7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super. 8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables thefollowing, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last. 9. Use the following correctly in sentences, Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays. 10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication. Geography (Time, one hour) 1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend? 2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas? 3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean? 4. Describe the mountains of N.A. 5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fermandez, Aspinwall and Orinoco. 6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S. 7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each. 8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude? 9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers. 10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth. Imagine a college student who went to public school trying to pass this test, even if the few outdated questions were modernized. Imagine their professors even being able to pass the 8th Grade. Can Americans, student and professor alike, get back up to the 8th Grade level of 1895?

"Flight 1234," the control tower advised, "turn right 45 degrees for noise abatement." "Roger," the pilot responded, "but we're at 35,000 feet. How much noise can we make up here?" "Sir," the radar man replied, "have you ever heard the noise a 727 makes when it hits a 747?"

SIGNS ON CHURCH MARQUEES "No God-No Peace. Know God-Know Peace." "Free Trip to heaven. Details Inside!" "Try our Sundays. They are better than Baskin-Robbins." "Searching for a new look? Have your faith lifted here!" An ad for St.Joseph's Episcopal Church has a picture of two hands holding stone tablets on which the Ten Commandments are inscribed and a headline that reads, "For fast, fast, fast relief, take two tablets." When the restaurant next to the Lutheran Church put out a big sign with red letters that said, "Open Sundays," the church reciprocated with its own message: "We are open on Sundays, too." "Have trouble sleeping? We have sermons-come hear one!" "A singing group called "The Resurrection" was scheduled to sing at a church. When a big snowstorm postponed the performance, the pastor fixed the outside sign to read, "The Resurrection is postponed." "People are like tea bags-you have to put them in hot water before you know how strong they are." "God so loved the world that He did not send a committee." "Come in and pray today. Beat the Christmas rush!" "When down in the mouth, remember Jonah. He came out all right." "Sign broken. Message inside this Sunday." "Fight truth decay-study the Bible daily." "How will you spend eternity-Smoking or Non-smoking?" "Dusty Bibles lead to Dirty Lives": "Come work for the Lord. The work is hard, the hours are long and the pay is low. But the retirement benefits are out of this world." "It is unlikely there'll be a reduction in the wages of sin." "Do not wait for the hearse to take you to church." "If you're headed in the wrong direction, God allows U-turns." "If you don't like the way you were born, try being born again." "Looking at the way some people live, they ought to obtain eternal fire insurance soon." "This is a ch_ _ ch. What is missing?" --------- (U R) "Forbidden fruit creates many jams." "In the dark? Follow the Son." "Running low on faith? Stop in for a fill-up." "If you can't sleep, don't count sheep. Talk to the Shepherd."

http://www.funnygreetings.com/egghunt.htm Jeannie <><

A couple had been married for 25 years and also celebrated their 60th birthdays. During the celebration a fairy appeared and said that because they had been such a loving couple all those years, she would give them one wish each. The wife wanted to travel around the world. The fairy waved her and boom! She had the tickets in her hand. Next, it was the husband's. He paused for a moment, then said shyly, "Well, I'd like to have a woman 30 years younger than me." The fairy picked up her wand and boom! He was 90.

THE TWELVE COMMANDMENTS FOR NAMES: > > > > (1) Thou shalt name your male children: James, John, Joseph, Josiah, > > Abel, Richard, Thomas, William > > > > (2) Thou shalt name your female children: Elizabeth, Mary, Martha, > > Maria, Sarah, Ida, Virginia, May > > > > (3) Thou shalt leave NO trace of your female children. > > > > (4) Thou shalt, after naming your children from the above lists, call > > them by strange nicknames such as: Ike, Eli, Polly, Dolly, > > Sukey.---making them difficult to trace. > > > > (5) Thou shalt NOT use any middle names on any legal documents or census > > reports, and only where necessary, you may use only initials on legal > > documents. > > > > (6)Thou shalt learn to sign all documents illegibly so that your surname > > can be spelled, or misspelled, in various ways: Hicks, Hicks, Hix, > > Hixe, Hucks, Kicks > > > > (7) Thou shalt, after no more then 3 generations, make sure that all > > family records are lost, misplaced, burned in a court house fire, or > > buried so that NO future trace of them can be found. > > > > (8) Thou shalt propagate misleading legends, rumors, & vague innuendo > > regarding your place origination. > > > > (A) you may have come from : England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales....or > > Iran. > > (B) you may have American Indian ancestry of the______tribe...... > > (c) You may have descended from one of three brothers that came over > > from______ > > > > (9) Thou shalt leave NO cemetery records, or headstones with legible > > names. > > > > (10) Thou shalt leave NO family Bible with records of birth, marriages, > > or deaths. > > > > (11) Thou shalt ALWAYS flip thy name around. If born James Albert, thou > > must make all the rest of thy records in the names of Albert, AJ, JA, > > AL, Bert, Bart, or Alfred. > > > > (12) Thou must also flip thy parent's names when making reference to > > them, although "Unknown" or a blank line is an acceptable alternative. > > > > And my own personal addition: > > > > Thou shalt name at least 5 generations of males, and dozens of their > > cousins with identical names in order to totally confuse researchers. > > AMEN!

Lord, families have their secrets, Just like houses have their cellars; Help me not to dig so deep I find the musty dwellers. Lord, bless my noble ancestors, Each and every one. But please don't send me Smiling outlaw cousins on the run. Families come from you, Lord, You always know what's best - I just don't need a gangster cousin As my household guest. Whenever I uncover the Beginning of my line, Lord, help me not to find a monkey Swinging from a vine.

Genealogy Pox is VERY CONTAGIOUS SYMPTOMS: Continual complaint as to need for names, dates and places. Patient has a blank expression, sometimes deaf to spouse and children. Has no taste for work of any kind, except feverishly looking through records at libraries and courthouses. Has a compulsion to write letters. Swears at mailman when he doesn't leave mail. Frequents strange places such as cemeteries, ruins, and remote desolate country areas. Makes secret night calls and hides phone bills from spouse. Mumbles to self. Has strange, faraway look in eyes. NO KNOWN CURE TREATMENT: Medication is useless. This disease is not fatal, but gets progressively worse. Patient should attend genealogy workshops, subscribe to genealogical magazines and be given a quiet corner in the house where he or she can be alone. REMARKS: The unusual nature of this disease is that the sicker the patient gets, the more he or she enjoys it. Author UNKNOWN Genealogy Pox is VERY CONTAGIOUS SYMPTOMS: Continual complaint as to need for names, dates and places. Patient has a blank expression, sometimes deaf to spouse and children. Has no taste for work of any kind, except feverishly looking through records at libraries and courthouses. Has a compulsion to write letters. Swears at mailman when he doesn't leave mail. Frequents strange places such as cemeteries, ruins, and remote desolate country areas. Makes secret night calls and hides phone bills from spouse. Mumbles to self. Has strange, faraway look in eyes. NO KNOWN CURE TREATMENT: Medication is useless. This disease is not fatal, but gets progressively worse. Patient should attend genealogy workshops, subscribe to genealogical magazines and be given a quiet corner in the house where he or she can be alone. REMARKS: The unusual nature of this disease is that the sicker the patient gets, the more he or she enjoys it. Author UNKNOWN

http://www.grl.com/grl/relationship.shtml this is an easy chart to read.... J. <>< ps: thanks Spirit :)

http://resources.rootsweb.com/~passwordcentral/ This URL is for those of us who forget which list we are subscribed to....

I have been rather busy here lately just unsubscribing people from one of these lists (17)..... folks have a tendency to forget which list that they have subscribed to..... so......if you would remember that and send your unsubscribe request to the correct addy.. ie: NAME-L-request or NAME-D-request.. it would sure save me a lot of time by not having to read your angry and frustrated email begging me to PLEASE UNSUBSCRIBE you, and then having to go in and manually removing you from the list. Because you see I am about the laziest List Mom on the net.... :) and I don't want to do any thing more then I have to.... Putting that L or D in there means a lot, as they are 2 different list in one so to speak..... and also some of you have subscribed to both lists, which isn't necessary..... you will know who you are as you get two of every thing... one as it is sent on the L list and one that goes out in a digest (D) form one once in every 18 to 14 hours.... Thanks loads..... every one have a great week and lets get these lists busy and productive.... Jeannie <><

Two old Arizona cowboy friends had scraped enough money together for a ranch. They bought a few head of cows from their neighbors but needed a good strong bull. Zeke had family in the east that he wanted to visit, but he and Keats agreed that he would stop at a ranch in Texas to buy a bull they'd seen advertised. Once the sale was completed Zeke would telegraph Keats and continue on his way. Zeke headed out with their $200. He got to the ranch and found that it was indeed a fine bull just like the rancher had advertised. "How much will ya take for 'im?" "Can't let him go for less that $250" "All I got is $200, and I have to telegraph my partner." "Well, if you let me do one more week of breeding with him, I'll let him go for $199." "Deal" Zeke paid the rancher and headed to the telegraph office. "How much for a telegraph? I need to let my friend know I bought a bull for our ranch." "90 cent set up and 10 cent a word." "Okay, set up a telegraph to Keats Wilson over to Sonoita Arizona." "Fine, what's the message?" "One word, comfortable." The telegraph agent looked up a bit confused, "Now, how the dickens is your friend going to know what that means." Zeke smiled and explained, "Old Keats, he's a smart man, but he never learned to read real good. He'll mull over that word, sounding it out bit by bit....Cum-for-da-bull."