In a message dated 8/1/2003 2:38:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Dimakasuje writes: > Guy House' fathers name was Abram, I beleive. Have never heard of any > NY/Vermont connection. Guy was a Farmer/Harness race Driver. Oh, his wife, Nora > Miller | do you know anything about your ggrandmother's father? birthdate? name? Dear HOUSE Hunters, My problem in researching my gr-grandmother's brother, Guy is that no one knows anything about him. He is NOT MENTIONED in his fathers funeral marker from Millers Funeral Home in 1958 but family members believe he was still alive at the time. A second cousin of mine said "understand that Guy was the black sheep of the family." Maybe there was such a terrible falling out that he was purposely left out of the funeral marker. I have not seen this funeral marker, a distant cousin has it and one reason or another has not agreed to send me a copy. So what I do know about Guy is that he had possibly four children (unknown wife or the sex of the children) but his ancestry: Father Franklin Abrahm HOUSE (1862 Tupper Lake, Franklin Co., NY-1958 Rochester, Monroe Co., NY / buried Mt. Hope Cemetery, Rochester) had a couple occupations, was a quiet man who played the cornet in a military band by ear. When he died he was living with his daughter Ruth in Rochester. My gr-grandmother filled out her SS-5 as having been born in North Elba, Clinton Co., NY and her mother's name as Bertha TYLER. In his obit, Franklin is listed as "survived by three daughters, Mrs. Frank WALTMAN", "Mrs. Marjorie BOWERMAN, Mrs. Gerard SMITH, seven grandchildren and 15 gr-grandchildren plus several nieces and nephew." Through church records I have found that there may have been two more sons born to Franklin but I cannot currently find my notes to provide there names. Since no ever heard of them, I assume that they did not live to see adulthood. The family rumor is that his wife Bertha TYLER was related to Pres. John TYLER. Research into Franklin's ancestors has created a link to Vermont: 1870 Census of Franklin Co., NY Hiram House age 36 married white Farmer b.VT Emeline 30 b.NY Herbert S. 10 b.NY Franklin A. 8 b.NY Marlin 4 b.NY NOTE: Herbert's middle initial could have been an L. If it is an L then he was married to female named Jennie M. b.1868, had a son Ray H. HOUSE (1895-1924) and all three are buried in Altamont, Franklin Co., NY. There might be a match to the 1860 Census for Mansfield, Cattaraugus Co., NY plus 1850 in the Township of Conewango, Cattaraugus Co. but I have not traveled to the downtown Rochester library to look at these. Interesting enough, when my grandfather went to move out of his house into an apartment, a tool box was found with its items engraved with the surname HOUES. It was always said to me by my Aunt that HOUSE was pronouced more like WhoC. So is the engraving proof of this or a misspelling? I have not been able to get beyond Hiram and Emeline in searching out the family history. Therefore I have always hoped that a relation to Guy would help provide me with further clues to check into. There seems to be a few Hiram HOUSE men married to female Emeline! I have been told to cross one Hiram & Emeline off ... a House genie in 1999 : Emeline WISE, the second wife of Hiram HOUSE. [ for you HOUSE Hunters reading this - his first wife was listed as Mary SHIPMAN ] I have more details about the above plus other information but have things I must do. If you have a specific inquiry or have a family story that could provide a clue for further research about these first named HOUSE folks please ask or shareor a rumor about any person you researchof these people, please ask. I find it interesting that D'Guy believe's his Guy's father name was Abram. Regards, DayStar