On Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:29:10 -0500, Steve Piper, "Steven Piper Piper" <BeckyPiper1@worldnet.att.net> wrote, in part, the following: NOW, I have rare and other books which prove and name soldiers who ran to Canada when their ranks were being wiped out. There were HUNDREDS who were taken prisoner to Detroit (Indians traded them to the British/Canada for items) And there were plenty who went to the British/Canada rather than fight. These Battles are where I found my grandfather. Fort Recovery has a web site and they have most all the names. A good book that will lift your eyes, is That Dark and Bloody River, by Allan Eckert. But anyhow, that is how a lot of American Soldiers went from Colonies to British Canada. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In response, I am hoping that you will be wiling to do a few lookups for me. Is that possible? In my particular case, I would be interested in both the RAY and PALMER families immigrating to CANADA. It is particularity curious to me that the same PALMER family relations seem to have been in Michigan as well as CANADA at different times. Also, since most of my family seems to have been UEL, maybe a few other names could be included, s.a., LAWRENCE, WOODRUFF, LAMOREAUX, SHARP, and HOUSE. Also, could you point me to the URL for "Fort Recovery?" Many thanks, Howard