--part1_a8.adaebec.26fd4846_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part1_a8.adaebec.26fd4846_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: <DMunnings@aol.com> From: DMunnings@aol.com Full-name: DMunnings Message-ID: <83.fb5dac.26fcfd22@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 14:21:22 EDT Subject: HOUSE surname & Coat of Arms To: Marylou179@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 104 In a message dated 9/21/2000 7:11:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Marylou179 writes: << A few years ago, I was in D.C, and this person was showing me all the coats of arms that I could have copied for my family name. I asked for one name in particular to "just see" what it would be. When he pulled it out and started telling me about it I almost doubled over to keep from laughing. The Family Crest for Tussey was a wonderful "French" crest and I should be so proud of the crest that was carried so proudly by my french ancestors. I took the guy aside and informed he was committing comsumer fraud and that the Tussey name was actually Finnish and that they really didn't have a family crest. He told me I was wrong, so I politely took out my "goodies" from my brief case and showed him 22 years of research and documentation. His face turned and red and he went back to his counter and put up a closed sign. The next day, I went back and sent my friend to ask him about a couple of names and ended with Tussey. He told her he had never heard the name and didn't think they had a crest. I finally went over and ask for some more of my names and gee guess what...no Alexander, no Yarborough, no Bain, no Gray or any of the other names I have researched for years. I guess you realize what I'm trying to tell you. Be careful. Please do not jump at things that are published as some of these are publications to just make money, your hard earned money. Talk to a good genealogist and they can point you in the right direction. Ask for samples of newsletters, before you buy and realize not all people are as honest as we are. If you ever get a letter telling you they have a wonderful "House Book" and you are in it, don't even go there. That one's been around for a long time. I published the House Hunting monthly newsletter for five years. I have tons of House information that I am always happy to share, just ask and if I have it, it's yours. >> Dear Mary, The <A HREF="http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/House/134">House website</A> to put the above on http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/Fam ilyAssoc/House/134. The copy/paste function will not work at this site so you will need to retype the above into the message box. My HOUSE family line has not been researched in a good manner. When I started looking into my family tree and specifically the HOUSE name I only had one goal in mind. The HOUSE side of the family always claimed to related to Pres. John Tyler. I figured if I could match up to a revolutionary soldier then I would be able to put my son on list for a college scholarship through SAR. I contacting family I ended up skipping around and not being able to connect my information to what the family sent in. Now that my son has entered 10th grade ... I have pretty much given up on obtaining him that scholarship. If you could check your HOUSE data against the following information it would be great. Thank you. Dawn Munnings 1 Man of the HOUSE 2 Franklin Abrahm HOUSE b: March 1862 Tupper Lake, Franklin Co., NY d: February 21, 1958 Rochester, Monroe County, NY b: Mt Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe Co.,NY ... +Bertha TYLER b: 1864 d: April 1944 Gates, NY b: Mt Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe Co.,NY .. 3 Mary Eucebia HOUSE b: January 26, 1885 d: July 1967 own home Dansville, Livingston County, NY ..... +Frank H. WALTMAN b: April 07, 1875 Bohemia m: September 20, 1911 unknown location .. 3 Marjorie HOUSE b: April 08, 1886 North Elba, Clinton Co., NY d: December 04, 1986 Clearwater, Pinellas Co., FL b: Clearwater City Cemetery, Clearwater, Pinellas Co.,FL ..... +Albert Gideon BOWERMAN b: Abt 1885 Bloomfield, Hallowell Twp, Prince Edward Co., Canada m: 1912 d: May 05, 1954 County Hospital: Rochester, Monroe Co.,NY,USA b: Mt Hope Cemetery Rochester, Monroe Co.,NY .. 3 Guy HOUSE .. 3 Ruth E. HOUSE b: Abt 1900 ..... +Gerard N. SMITH b: Abt 1898 .. 3 Child HOUSE d: Unknown [ told died at birth ] .. 3 Male HOUSE d: Unknown .. 3 Male HOUSE d: Unknown 2 Garard/Jerald HOUSE b: Unknown RESEARCH A city directory for Rochester in 1906-07: Frank A. HOUSE carpenter h 14 Linwood place Marjorie HOUSE bds 14 Linwood place Mary E. HOUSE teacher bds 14 Linwood place Rochester Directory in 1920-21: Frank A. HOUSE (Bertha) millwright h 95 Raeburn av. Ruth E. HOUSE steno bds 95 Raeburn av. GENERAL INFORMATION Franklin played the cornet in a military band by ear (he couldn't read music). Member of the West Avenue United Methodist Church in Rochester, NY. Franklin was living with his daughter Ruth in Rochester at the time of his death. He had gone blind most likely from diabetes. EMPLOYMENT First pharmacist in New York State having worked in Tupper Lake, New York region and issued license number 4. He worked for a Health Office in the Adirondacks. Once moving to Rochester, Frank worked for the old Northeast Electric Company before retiring in 1938. He lived in the Monroe County area about 40 years. OBIT Frank A. House of 1054 Edgewood Ave., Feb. 21, 1958. He is survived by three daughters, Mrs. Frank Waltman of Dansville, Mrs. Marjorie Bowerman and Mrs. Gerard Smith; seven grandchildren; 15 great-grandchildren; several nieces and nephew. ---- The family will receive friends at the N. J. Miller's Son Funeral Home, 1625 Mt. Hope Ave., 2-5 and 7-9 p.m., where services will be held Tuesday morning at 11. Interment, Mr. Hope Cemetery. ITEMS FAMILY SENT IN Letterhead: Mrs. M. E. House 174 Esser Avenue Buffalo, NY Letter was dated November 20, 1934 and said "Dear Niece, I enclose a small sketch of the ATWATER leneage as found by Mr. Raymond. He did not look up the SHELDON side. You will see that there was one Revolutionary Soldier in that family, Mr. Isaac Atwater. We had a nice trip, arrived home last night 5p.m. If these is anything else that I can do to help you let me know. >From Your Uncle, M. E. House" Letter on note paper - Buffalo, N.Y. March 26/27, 1935 "Dear Mary, I just received this geneology from Mr. Raymond hope it will help you. When you are through with it please return it as Jessie wants to use it also. I am still at home some improved but have had a full task for a few days fact my back has been lame so much so that I cannot get out to enjoy this nice weather but is some better and am in hopes to get out again in a day or so. I gain faster when I can get out in the sunshine. Love and best wishes to you all from your Uncle M. E. House" Letter on note paper - 833 Elm St. New Haven Conn. Dec 4, 1936 " Mrs. Mary __ Waltman Dear Madam, Mr. Atwater died just a year ago and I have been trying to trace your line. Much to my disappoint however I am unable to do it because of failing sight. I have received many letters asking for help and have enjoyed doing it, as Mr. Atwater always did but my eyes are in such a condition that I will have to give it up. Dr. Blake calls the trouble glaucoma. Im looking up David Atwater Born 1615 I find there were ten children I could get no further than that. I am sure you will find all you wish to know in VI of Atwater History if you care to have it. The price is $5.00 There is also Vol. IV which carries one to recent years. The names in your letter are correct - he married Damaris Sayer. I apologize most sincerely for my delay in taking care of your letter. Yours truly Helena J. Atwater P.S. I wish to say there is a coat of arms in the book and I think these are separate ones for sale at $2.00" Letter on note paper - New Haven Feb. 15, 1937 "Dear Mrs. Waltman, I received your letter, I am very anxious to help you. I looked thru Vol. 1 for Emeline found two- First one died. She was daughted of Arnold. Second Emeline Priscilla dau of Daniel, son of Tuttle lived in Stephentown, N. __, She married Albert __ __ __ ss born March 1833. There are five in Vol. IV none of which married Hiram House. The name House does not occur in either book. A friend of mine prominent in D. A. R. work. She suggested if you cannot find the information you need apply __ __ the Registra of the order you wish to join. Not wish standing the information you need may be in Vol.. IV but sorry to have to tell you I could not find it. I hope this little may be of some help. Mr. Francis - my husband is a direct decentent of David - who came to America in 1638 forming the New Haven Colony. He is listed in Who's Who in America 1928. I want to thank you for your kindly interest in my eyes. I am having them heated. Sincerely yours (Mrs. Francis) Helena J. Atwater" The envelope for the above had a return address of H. J. Atwater 833 Elm St. New Haven, Conn. Typed Letter on paper Springfield, Mass. Jan 15, 1899 "My dear cousin, Hamilton Lamson: I received your letter and was much pleased to hear from you again. I am glad to hear that your Grandmother does not suffer pain although an invalid. Your Grandmother's cousins Sarah Parker, Sarah Leach, Myself and my sister are all that are left of the cousins of the generation we belong. Sarah Parker is Uncle Royal's youngest daughter. Sarah Leach is Aunt Molly's daughter, your Grandmother, Uncle Abner's daughter and my sister and I are John's children. The first Tyler, Job, and his wife Mary came over from England about 1640, twenty years after the pilgrims came. He was the first settler of Andover, Mass. He also lived in Boston, Mendon and Boxford. I think his wife Mary died at Mendon and he at Andover. His son Moses died at Andover, he was our ancestor, his son John was a sea Caption. He died in West Boxford where my great grandfather was born 1710. He died at our Old Homestead, Brookfield 177. His name was Abner. My grandfather was John, he was born at Boxford in 1745 and came to Brookfield with his father when two years old. He was your great grandfather's Abner's father. Your geneology is Job (1), Moses (2), John (3), - the sea Caption, Abner (4), John (5), Abner (6), Jane (7), Silas (8), and Hamilton 9. You are the 9th generation in this country." No signature Two folded pages without date or signature trace an Atwater genealogy from an Emeline Atwater (Feb 19, 1846 - ) mar. Hiram H. House Franklin Atwater (June 25, 1805 - ) mar. Sybil Sheldon (1811 - ) Abraham Atwater (1774 - ) of Pulteney, VT. He married Ruth Cowles, 7 children. and so forth back to Thomas Atwater ( - 1484) of Royton in Lenham, Co. Kent, England mar. Elinor Children; Robert, John Sources: E.E. Atwater, 1851, "Descendants of David Atwater" E.E. Atwater, 1873, "Descendants of David Atwater" revised F. Atwater, 1901+07a "History and Genealogy" New Haven Geneal. Magazine, vol. 1&2 Atwater "History of New Haven, Conn." These notes are copied from _______ notes taken from many sources but mainly from your mothers letter and the F. Atwater book. I suspect I've missed some important items about dates etc. in that book. The book cam be found, no doubt, in almost any of the larger libraries, such as those of Buffalo and Rochester. If you can get the data cleaned up back to Grandfather Abraham, I believe the book will be accepted by the D. A. R. for Abraham and Isaac - - - or else it will be refused and not likely to replaced by anything better. I'm having lots of fun chasing ancestors - - - have lately found the whole family of cousins or descended from my ggrandfather Murray. Differently Folded paper without date or name of compiler David Atwater (1615 - 92) from England to New Haven 1638 Demaus Sayre ~~ Jonathan Atwater 1656 - 1726 New Haven, Conn ~~ Jonathan Atwater 1685 ~~ Abraham Atwater 1730 ~~ Isaac Atwater (Rev-Soldier) 1758 - 1839 Am. Rev - M. Lucy Merriam ~~ Abraham Atwater 1780 ~~ Franklin Atwater 1805 - 1877 Sybil Lucetta Sheldon 1811 - 1888 ~~ Emeline Atwater 1840 - 1872 Hiram House 1833 - 1872 --part1_a8.adaebec.26fd4846_boundary--