This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hochstetler Lorenz Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/4Bk.2ACIB/59.1.1 Message Board Post: John and Barbara are siblings, but their mother's name is unknown. The "Miss Lorenz" error is widespread. I learned this from an article in the JHFA newsletter. If you're not a member, it's well-worth joining. Dan has a link to sign up on his website.