Frank - you said it so much better than I did! Have a good day. Good to have you in the fray. Dan Hoyle wrote back a few days ago, after the Hugh Horton search was breaking - about how Robert E. Horton of Raleigh traces on paper through a son Joseph of Nansemond Co VA to the Bertie Co Hugh Horton. I hated to inform him that in the estate settlement, it did not name a Joseph Horton. Have not heard a peep from him since. Hope he is not angry. perry