Dan - thank you - thought I had lost you in this connection. Truthfully, I cannot begin to make the connections out of Wake Co back to Hugh Horton, myself or Frank and a couple of others. I can tell you that issue from Hugh Horton Sr. of 1736 estate in Bertie Co - seems to have a paper trail back into Stafford, Culpeper, Fauquier and Prince William Co VA, after the estate was settled in 1736. The son Hugh Horton Jr. went to GA. Robert E Horton, Frank, Hal and I think Mike Horton and I show a reasonable match on the DNA charts so we know there is an establishe relationship between us. So Hugh Horton Sr. either is kin to all of us or some of us could, or have to be, descended from him. Mike from GA comes back into Orange Co NC which branch backs up into the westward migration counties from Bertie in what appears to be a direct line, to Hugh Horton, Sr.. I had thought a meeting in Hillsbourough, county seat of Orange Co might have been the exact place to resolve the issues before us today. But New Bern NC was a part of VA for awhile, before the Carolina name came up and the Lord proprietors got control section by section of the Caolina grant. That is how the Granville tract, the Albemarle tract and others, including Craven which the included about all of NC and half of SC - before SC was divided out of NC. At that time, Hugh Horton's land fell into SC and he petitioned for a new grant or deed to reflect his new location of authority in SC as the owner (words to that effect). One might suppose that Amos Horton would figure in that in some way - but as I understand it - there is no match in DNA. His name was not mentioned in the estate settlement either - so we probably should not be looking in that direction. Another thing, and I am unclear on this issue - pelhamdan - refers to the time when surnames did not get used which is overlapped in the DNA specrum of time. Another thing in England that happened in a contemporary time with our people in America - men marrying Horton women would assume the name Horton. A Wilmot, forget his first name, did that. So we could yet have this possibility as to why all the Horton surnames don't match each other. I think this is one of the more exiting times to be a genealogist. It's like the last frontier of the old west. Anything we can do to establis the rational on paper to the DNA is historical to say the least. And I am pleased that you and so many others have a passionate interest in meeting these challenges While I have been accused of talking too much at times, to say little leaves so much unsaid that should be told for the benefit of those who really want to know. Good to hear from you. Perry

My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, John, James and a Sherwood. I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a head of household. I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's origins? Linda

Linda, I am still carrying that information as a possible with my elder James. I still *believe* that your Stephen was the brother to my Thomas. I have listed him in my other family files and not added him to the line at this time... Will let you know if I ever am able to make the connection... Thelma Linda Horton <lhorton@conwaycorp.net> wrote: My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, John, James and a Sherwood. I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a head of household. I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's origins? Linda ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== Have you posted your line or query lately? A recently joined cousin may help you make a connection!!! REMEMBER ! ! ! Send your messages to: HORTON-L@rootsweb.com =======================================================