This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Horton, Lewis, Philbrick, Jackson, Nissen, Clark, Beam, Sanford, Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/BBk.2ACIB/2427 Message Board Post: Obit: The Leader, Corning, NY; Wed, 28 Jun 1972, pg 4 James H. Horton and Penelope Horton Joint funeral services will be conducted at 2pm today, at the Jones Funeral Home in Bath for James H. Horton, 74, and his daughter, Penelope, 12, of 242 East High St, Painted Post. A navice of Prattsburg, Mr. Horton retired from the Ingersoll-Rand Company in Painted Post where he had bee employed as a builder-inspector of air compressors. Miss Horton was a student at Charles Street School in Painted Post. Survivng are the wife and mother, Mrs Rose Lewis Horton of Painted Post and Mr. Horton's three sisters, Mrs. Marion Philbrick of Hornell, Mrs. Ruth Jackson of Ocean Beach, NJ, and Mrs. Marjorie Nissen of Syracuse. Burial will be in the Coopers Plains Cemetery. ============================================ Descendants of Holland W. (Halland W.) Horton - 31 Aug 2005 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- First Generation 1. Holland W. (Halland W.) Horton1 was born in 1872 in , , New York.2,3 He appeared in the census in 1880 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.4 On 1 Jun 1905 he was Farmer in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 He appeared in the census on 1 Jun 1905 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 Census: 01 Jun 1905, 1st E.D. Prattsburgh, Steuben Co NY; pg 4, line 22, head, white, male, aged 32, b. US; citz; occ farmer. He died in 1938.3 He was buried in Prattsburgh_Rural Cem, Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.3 Horton, Holland b. 1872 d. 1938 Holland W. (Halland W.) Horton and Jennie C. Clark were married before 1895. Jennie C. Clark1 (daughter of {male} Clark and Sophia ( ) Clark) was born in 1873 in , , New York.2 On 1 Jun 1905 she was Housework in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 She appeared in the census on 1 Jun 1905 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 Census: 01 Jun 1905, 1st E.D. Prattsburgh, Steuben Co NY; pg 4, line 23, wife, white, female, aged 30yrs; b. US; citz; occ housework She died in 1958.3 She was buried in Prattsburgh_Rural Cem, Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.3 Horton, Jennie b. 1873 d. 1958 Holland W. (Halland W.) Horton and Jennie C. Clark had the following children: +2 i. Marion Horton (born unknown). +3 ii. Gerald Clark Horton (born about 1895). +4 iii. James H. (Jim) Horton (born about 1898). +5 iv. Marjorie Horton (born about 1901). +6 v. Mary Ruth (Ruth) Horton (born about 1906). Second Generation 2. Marion Horton was living on 25 Jun 1972 in Hornell, Steuben, New York.5 She was born unknown. Marion Horton and {male} Philbrick were married before 25 Jun 1972. {Male} Philbrick was born unknown. 3. Gerald Clark Horton1 was born about 1895 in , , New York. On 1 Jun 1905 he was At School in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 He appeared in the census on 1 Jun 1905 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 Census: 01 Jun 1905, 1st E.D. Prattsburgh, Steuben Co NY; pg 4, line 24, son, white, male, aged 10yrs; b. US; occ at school In 1921 he was Teamster. He died before 25 Jun 1972.5 Note: not mentioned in the obit of his brother, James H. Horton, dated 25 Jun 1972 LI: 10 Oct 1921, Hammondsport, Steuben, NY; Witness: 10 Oct 1921, Ruth Horton & John Beam (MR) Gerald Clark Horton and Clara Louise Beam were married on 10 Oct 1921 in Hammondsport, Steuben, New York. by J. V. Axtell, clergyman, Hammondsport, NY Clara Louise Beam1 (daughter of Clark Beam and Rosanna <Rosetta> Sanford) was born about 1904 in Hammondsport, Steuben, New York. In 1921 she was Domestic. She died before 1 Mar 1998. Witness: 10 Oct 1921, Ruth Horton & John Beam (MR); LI: 10 Oct 1921, Hammondsport, Steuben, NY 4. James H. (Jim) Horton was born about 1898.6 He appeared in the census on 1 Jun 1905 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 Census: 01 Jun 1905, 1st E.D. Prattsburgh, Steuben Co NY; pg 4, line 25, son, white, male, aged 7yrs; b. US; citz; occ at school On 1 Jun 1905 he was at school in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 He died 1972 Flood on 25 Jun 1972 in Painted Post, Steuben, New York.6 He was buried in Erwin_Coopers_Plains Cem, Erwin, Coopers Plains, Steuben, New York.6 Obit: The Leader, Corning, NY; Wed, 28 Jun 1972, pg 4 James H. Horton and Penelope Horton Joint funeral services will be conducted at 2pm today, at the Jones Funeral Home in Bath for James H. Horton, 74, and his daughter, Penelope, 12, of 242 East High St, Painted Post. A navice of Prattsburg, Mr. Horton retired from the Ingersoll-Rand Company in Painted Post where he had bee employed as a builder-inspector of air compressors. Miss Horton was a student at Charles Street School in Painted Post. Survivng are the wife and mother, Mrs Rose Lewis Horton of Painted Post and Mr. Horton's three sisters, Mrs. Marion Philbrick of Hornell, Mrs. Ruth Jackson of Ocean Beach, NJ, and Mrs. Marjorie Nissen of Syracuse. Burial will be in the Coopers Plains Cemetery. James H. (Jim) Horton and Rose B. Lewis were married before 1960. Rose B. Lewis (daughter of Fred Lewis and Minirva <Minnie> Stratton <Straton>) was born in 1887.7 She was living on 25 Jun 1972 in Painted Post, Steuben, New York.6 She died unknown. James H. (Jim) Horton and Rose B. Lewis had the following children: 7 i. Penelope Horton was born about 1960.6 She died on 25 Jun 1972 in Painted Post, Steuben, New York.6 She was buried in Erwin_Coopers_Plains Cem, Erwin, Coopers Plains, Steuben, New York.6 Obit: The Leader, Corning, NY; Wed, 28 Jun 1972, pg 4 James H. Horton and Penelope Horton Joint funeral services will be conducted at 2pm today, at the Jones Funeral Home in Bath for James H. Horton, 74, and his daughter, Penelope, 12, of 242 East High St, Painted Post. A navice of Prattsburg, Mr. Horton retired from the Ingersoll-Rand Company in Painted Post where he had bee employed as a builder-inspector of air compressors. Miss Horton was a student at Charles Street School in Painted Post. Survivng are the wife and mother, Mrs Rose Lewis Horton of Painted Post and Mr. Horton's three sisters, Mrs. Marion Philbrick of Hornell, Mrs. Ruth Jackson of Ocean Beach, NJ, and Mrs. Marjorie Nissen of Syracuse. Burial will be in the Coopers Plains Cemetery. 5. Marjorie Horton1 was born about 1901 in , , New York. She appeared in the census on 1 Jun 1905 in Prattsburgh, Steuben, New York.2 Census: 01 Jun 1905, 1st E.D. Prattsburgh, Steuben Co NY; pg 4, line 26, daughter, white, female, aged 4yrs; b. US; occ none. She was living on 25 Jun 1972 in Syracuse, Onondaga, New York.5 Marjorie Horton and {male} Nissen were married before 25 Jun 1972. {Male} Nissen was born unknown. 6. Mary Ruth (Ruth) Horton1 was born about 1906 in , , New York. In 1924 she was No Occupation in Erwin, Steuben, New York. She was living on 25 Jun 1972 in Ocean Beach, , New Jersey.5 LI: 30 Jan 1924, Erwin, Steuben, NY;Witness: 30 Jan 1923, Mrs Rose & Mr James Horton (MR) Mary Ruth (Ruth) Horton and Rollins D. Jackson were married on 30 Jan 1924 in Corning, Steuben, New York. by Melvin J. Hill, minister Rollins D. Jackson1 (son of John Jackson and Agnes Decker) was born about 1903 in Little Falls, , New Jersey.8 In 1924 he was Clerk. Witness: 30 Jan 1924, Mrs Rose & Mr James Horton (MR); LI: 30 Jan 1924, Wayland, Steuben, NY Sources 1. GEDCOM file. Created on 20 FEB 2003. Imported on 20 Feb 2003. 2. Steuben County Census Records, Bath, New York. 3. Steuben County Cemetery Records, Bath, New York. 4. 1880 Census, Family History Library, Mormon Church. 5. Brother's Obituary. 6. Death Notice. 7. Stratton & Peel Genealogy goes into the Swan family. 8. Steuben County Marriage Records, Bath, Steuben, NY.

Arminda Mitchell was born in 1827, married Henderson Horton 24 August 1843. Henderson died 22 Sept. 1890, Arminda died 24 March 1914.

Sue - Please amplify. It appears that Henderson b 1821 & m 1827 - I know that's not what was intended. Thanks for the clarification. Love, Lou --- Sue Ratcliff <s.ratcliff@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > My Horton line descends from John Horton III and > Jane > Sargent through Henderson Horton, 21 May 1821, Rye > Cove, Lee, VA married Arminda Jane Mitchell, 1827, > Rye > Cove, Lee, VA. Their 2nd child Elizabeth is my 2nd > great grandmother. This Horton line moved to Texas, > Elizabeth married a Crutchfield and moved to > Oklahoma > late 1800's. Is the first John Horton a descendant > of > Hugh Horton? Some of the John Horton bios can be > found in The History of Jack County Texas. > > Sue Ratcliff > > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== > Research friendly!!! Please treat other researchers > as you wish to be treated!!! > List manager is Jim Young > <horton-admin@rootsweb.com> > ======================================================= > >

I was hoping someone might be able to tell me about a Cassander who was born in KY in about 1810. He shows up on the 1870 Iron Co., MO census in the household of William Horton born in KY about 1825. He is also on the 1890 list as a veteran of the War of 1812 (it says there is a line through it) but that doesn't make sense. I was wondering if he might be a descendent of Reuben Horton. Or could he be a she named Cassandra? Anyone know of him or her? Thanks. Marilyn Orr

My Horton line descends from John Horton III and Jane Sargent through Henderson Horton, 21 May 1821, Rye Cove, Lee, VA married Arminda Jane Mitchell, 1827, Rye Cove, Lee, VA. Their 2nd child Elizabeth is my 2nd great grandmother. This Horton line moved to Texas, Elizabeth married a Crutchfield and moved to Oklahoma late 1800's. Is the first John Horton a descendant of Hugh Horton? Some of the John Horton bios can be found in The History of Jack County Texas. Sue Ratcliff

Need help finding descendants of: Henry Horton b.4 Apr 1838 OH - d.1915 Pettis Co, MO. s/o Thomas Horton/Phoebe Craig. Perry

This is again information on DNA from the Wells surname group 11:38 AM 8/26/2005, Lady Bonita \(USA\) wrote: >1) the father passes some markers to the daughter, but the daughter DOES >NOT pass them on to her children. Thus, they can check for paternity of a >child with both parents DNA. Well, not quite true. The father will pass NONE of the y-chromosome DNA to daughters. They DO get his X chromosome (passed to him by his parents). This mixes with the X chromosome passed by the mother to form a full X (mixed in some way). All other chromosomes are passed pretty much 50% from the father and 50% from the mother. These ARE passed on to the next generation but diluted by 50% (more or less) to mix with the genetic matter from the other parent. >2) The same happens with the mother ... she does pass some markers to her >son, but the son DOES NOT pass those to his children. As above except for the mtDNA that is passed from the mother to BOTH daughters and sons. None of the mtDNA from the father (except in very rare situations) is passed to the children. Only the daughters then pass this on to later generations. The 50% rule applies to all other chromosomes passed on by the mother. None of the chromosomes other than the y are currently being tested for genealogical purposes. But this 50% mixture is a great help in paternity testing provided they have something to compare against. Two siblings will have enough DNA in common from the two parents that they can be declared siblings to a high confidence rate even without a contribution from the parents or other close relatives. But there is a higher confidence level if other family members are available for testing.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HORTON / RUPE / GROSS / HOLT / HENRY / GEARHART Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BBk.2ACIB/2425 Message Board Post: Would like to connect with relatives of John Thomas "Tom" HORTON and wife Julian (or Jilian?) (maiden unknown). John was born January 1885 in England. He and his parents John and Mary HORTON settled in the Clearfield County, PA, area. Also seeking more information on this family. .. Sallyann Hoernke s a l l y a n n h o e r n k e @ h o t m a i l . c o m

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Horton, Bell Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/BBk.2ACIB/2424 Message Board Post: In my records I have the following information: Jim/Sam Horton m: Aresenious ??? Their children were: - Sarah Elizabeth Horton (aka: Louisa and Lulu - per census postings) m John Thomas Bell - Earl Horton - Viola Horton - Corinna Horton - John Horton - Mattie Horton - Sam Horton All I have as a source for the above is 'Family Knowledge'. I'm asking because I've found the following source which I'm trying to confirm or reject. Right now information is similar but not exact. See information on internet at url: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=allison1&id=I127646 If you go to site, you may notice the following similarities: 1) Husband's name is 'James' compared to our Jim 2) Wife's nickname is 'Sennie' while ours is 'Seny', her birth date is 14 Oct 1853 compared to ours of 14 Oct 1859. She was born in Cherokee Co, AL while we have family rumors that she was an Indian. Could it be she was white, but over time we confused the county where she was born with her race? 3) Children: 3a) Is 'Ella' same as our Sarah Catherine aka: Louisa or Lulu? Note her birth year is abt 1873 in AL, while our information indicates 25 Nov 1873. 3b) Is 'Lee E' or 'Robert Earl' same as our Earl? 3c) Is 'A Viola' same as Viola? 3d) Is 'Rebecca Corina' our Corrina? 3e) Is Martha E same as our Mattie? 3f) Is 'Samuel P' same as our Sam? 3g) Is 'John T' same as our John? I've sent an email to originator of information to find out her sources, but nothing yet. There are also differences in the two sources I can't account for: 1) Mother - Asenath 'Sennie' vs. Aresenious 'Seny' 2) Children 2a) If Lee E (male) is not Earl then who is he (if he was a brother who died young - it's explainable) 2b) If Robert Earl is not Earl then who is he? 2c) Who is Lue H (female)? (could she be another sibling who died young?) 2d) Who is William Bunyon? (since he has family / descendants, is he just an uncle we lost track of early on?) I have no confidence in the dates in my data for any of the children except Sarah so have no basis for determining which children were oldest. I have them listed based on sequence I was given (just can't remember by whom). Any thoughts, clarifications you might be able to shed on the above information would be very helpful

Thelma - is your mailbox still full?

Thanks, Thelma. The fly in the ointment is that other Stephen Horton in Georgia in 1820. Also I really wonder about William, who witnessed Stephen's will. Stephen named a son William and every child of Stephen for whom I have names of sons has a William. One has 2. A William was killed during the Civil War and after his death a little brother was also named William. Stephen has a son John, but none of the other names of James household. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Shields" <tks42@sbcglobal.net> To: <HORTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [HORTON] Stephen Horton > Linda, I am still carrying that information as a possible with my elder James. I still *believe* that your Stephen was the brother to my Thomas. I have listed him in my other family files and not added him to the line at this time... Will let you know if I ever am able to make the connection... > > Thelma > > Linda Horton <lhorton@conwaycorp.net> wrote: > My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was > probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been > born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. > > I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is > Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, > John, James and a Sherwood. > > I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had > led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. > Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton > on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, > unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a > head of household. > > I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern > GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's > origins? > > Linda > > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== > Have you posted your line or query lately? A recently joined cousin may help you make a connection!!! > REMEMBER ! ! ! Send your messages to: HORTON-L@rootsweb.com > ======================================================= > > > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== > Verify the subscription status for all your RootsWeb mailing lists; your list of > subscriptions will be emailed to you. > http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ > ======================================================== > >

Linda, there may be a reason for that. I am wondering if some of the children listed as children of James the elder are his children. My reason for saying that is that Sarah received a land grant in Orange County after his death for his RW service... then when the court documents that I located were filed the widow of James used the name Ann. Now were there two wives, or was Sarah and Ann the same person. There was a Widow Ann Horton in Jackson County Georgia with Prosser at one time.... But I do not have an answer for this at this time... Thelma Linda Horton <lhorton@conwaycorp.net> wrote: Thanks, Thelma. The fly in the ointment is that other Stephen Horton in Georgia in 1820. Also I really wonder about William, who witnessed Stephen's will. Stephen named a son William and every child of Stephen for whom I have names of sons has a William. One has 2. A William was killed during the Civil War and after his death a little brother was also named William. Stephen has a son John, but none of the other names of James household. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thelma Shields" To: Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:29 PM Subject: Re: [HORTON] Stephen Horton > Linda, I am still carrying that information as a possible with my elder James. I still *believe* that your Stephen was the brother to my Thomas. I have listed him in my other family files and not added him to the line at this time... Will let you know if I ever am able to make the connection... > > Thelma > > Linda Horton wrote: > My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was > probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been > born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. > > I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is > Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, > John, James and a Sherwood. > > I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had > led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. > Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton > on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, > unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a > head of household. > > I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern > GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's > origins? > > Linda > > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== > Have you posted your line or query lately? A recently joined cousin may help you make a connection!!! > REMEMBER ! ! ! Send your messages to: HORTON-L@rootsweb.com > ======================================================= > > > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== > Verify the subscription status for all your RootsWeb mailing lists; your list of > subscriptions will be emailed to you. > http://passwordcentral.rootsweb.com/ > ======================================================== > > ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== NOTICE !!!! RootsWeb prohibits posting test messages, virus warnings, chain letters, political announcements, current events, missing children reports, flames, etc. (in other words - SPAM) to the list. List manager is Jim Young =======================================================

well, I didn't know that it was.... but no, it isn't full... why HORTON03@aol.com wrote:Thelma - is your mailbox still full? ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== The Searchable Surname Archives for Rootsweb lists can be found at: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl ------------------------------------------- Find easy instructions for using RootsWeb's Search Engine for the Archives at: http://www.shelby.net/shelby/jr/robertsn/rwsearch.htm =======================================================

Linda, I am still carrying that information as a possible with my elder James. I still *believe* that your Stephen was the brother to my Thomas. I have listed him in my other family files and not added him to the line at this time... Will let you know if I ever am able to make the connection... Thelma Linda Horton <lhorton@conwaycorp.net> wrote: My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, John, James and a Sherwood. I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a head of household. I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's origins? Linda ==== HORTON Mailing List ==== Have you posted your line or query lately? A recently joined cousin may help you make a connection!!! REMEMBER ! ! ! Send your messages to: HORTON-L@rootsweb.com =======================================================

My Stephen Horton died in Baldwin Co., Georgia, May 4, 1815. His will was probated there, but lists only oldest son Alfred by name. He may have been born 1758. Witness on will is William Horton. I was given these sons of James Horton of Orange County NC. There is Thomas, and he is listed as the oldest, there is Stephen, Prosser, Jeremiah, John, James and a Sherwood. I was ecstatic. Names given to children of James [younger] and Prosser had led to a suspician of relationship to Stephen. But there is always a catch. Using those great Hortons of the South newsletters, I found a Stephen Horton on the 1820 census. My Stephen's son Stephen would have been about 7, unlikely to be head of household. My Stephen was dead, not likely to be a head of household. I have a good bit of data From Stephen to later times. Migration pattern GA>AL>MS>TX with some going through LA. Can anyone help with Stephen's origins? Linda

We have Silas H. Horton b 1822 Orange Co NY s/o Benjamin F. Horton/Matilda Rogers. This was off the net 27 March 2005. Nothing further has been added. Parents of Benjamin not researched . But would be nice to have those answers too. perry

Dan - part of your statement is true and part is not what I said. I have never said that David Horton of Wake Co NC is a son of Joseph of Nansmond Co VA. That was worked into the lineage as you phrased it from somene other than me. If it is true, that is fine. I know it can be construed that he was a son of Joseph, from certain documents in the same way that it was construed that he was the son of Amos Horton Sr., (where the Peeble genealogy shows a David Horton as his son). DNA testing ruled out Amos - and it is a wake-up call that the paper work is not always going to agree with the DNA until we can work together more than just once a year. How we can do that is unclear at this time but I beleve we have made a good start at it, don't you. perry

Dan - thank you - thought I had lost you in this connection. Truthfully, I cannot begin to make the connections out of Wake Co back to Hugh Horton, myself or Frank and a couple of others. I can tell you that issue from Hugh Horton Sr. of 1736 estate in Bertie Co - seems to have a paper trail back into Stafford, Culpeper, Fauquier and Prince William Co VA, after the estate was settled in 1736. The son Hugh Horton Jr. went to GA. Robert E Horton, Frank, Hal and I think Mike Horton and I show a reasonable match on the DNA charts so we know there is an establishe relationship between us. So Hugh Horton Sr. either is kin to all of us or some of us could, or have to be, descended from him. Mike from GA comes back into Orange Co NC which branch backs up into the westward migration counties from Bertie in what appears to be a direct line, to Hugh Horton, Sr.. I had thought a meeting in Hillsbourough, county seat of Orange Co might have been the exact place to resolve the issues before us today. But New Bern NC was a part of VA for awhile, before the Carolina name came up and the Lord proprietors got control section by section of the Caolina grant. That is how the Granville tract, the Albemarle tract and others, including Craven which the included about all of NC and half of SC - before SC was divided out of NC. At that time, Hugh Horton's land fell into SC and he petitioned for a new grant or deed to reflect his new location of authority in SC as the owner (words to that effect). One might suppose that Amos Horton would figure in that in some way - but as I understand it - there is no match in DNA. His name was not mentioned in the estate settlement either - so we probably should not be looking in that direction. Another thing, and I am unclear on this issue - pelhamdan - refers to the time when surnames did not get used which is overlapped in the DNA specrum of time. Another thing in England that happened in a contemporary time with our people in America - men marrying Horton women would assume the name Horton. A Wilmot, forget his first name, did that. So we could yet have this possibility as to why all the Horton surnames don't match each other. I think this is one of the more exiting times to be a genealogist. It's like the last frontier of the old west. Anything we can do to establis the rational on paper to the DNA is historical to say the least. And I am pleased that you and so many others have a passionate interest in meeting these challenges While I have been accused of talking too much at times, to say little leaves so much unsaid that should be told for the benefit of those who really want to know. Good to hear from you. Perry

Perry, Maybe Joseph and Hugh were brothers? You said that the David Horton of Wake line/ Joseph of Granville co (and earlier Nansemond co) was possibly tied to Hugh or even Tobias lines. Maybe Joseph was the immigrent for the David of Wake Line. We do know that the line is sure not the famous Barnibus which was touted for over a hundred years. Dan