This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Billie0W Surnames: Horsley, Crume Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.horsley/397.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Chris (Cousin) I still have not found anything definite about the parents of Berry Horsley. However, I do have a new theory. There's that old family story referenced in the first post in this thread. "Someone one said that someone said etc." In the story I was told it states that Berry's fathers name was Ralph. Old family stories may often be wrong in detail but still contain a germ of truth. IF at some point the story got changed from "brother" to "father" then Berry's parents could be Levi (born 1776 in Virginia) and Sarah (Crume) (born 1777 in Virginia) Horsley, Ralph's parents. That would make Berry their, possibly, youngest child. No proof as yet, but hope springs eternal. I can now give you a bit more information on Berry. According to his headstone he would have been born July 21, 1817 in Kentucky. He died May 28, 1884 at Hunnewell Kansas and is buried in Dry Grove Cemetery near Mattoon, Coles County, Illinois. I speculate that he was visiting with Theodore, possibly in connection with the lease in the Cherokee Outlet. You can get some more family history at one of my websites - http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okcslsa/index.html Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.