I guess everyone out there knows that the Puritans went from Eng to Holland and lived there for a time to worshop free of the rule/authority of the Church of Eng. (the "state"/national church) Holland/; the Netherlands had freedom of religion, even then (late 1500s - early 1600s). Some Puritans remained there in that area, but some, thinking their children were becoming too much like the Dutch, wanted to start their own colony and went to New Eng/MA. Remembering that some stayed in the Netherlands at that time - some of them may later have migrated to the US from Holland and still had the name Hooker - or it could have changed some to a more Dutch spelling like Hocker or Hoeker from their having remained in Holland?? Also, it is interesting to note that in leaving the Netherlands their leader there, who felt he was too old for a long sea journey, told the people leaving "do not become rigid and make a lot of rules - keep people from worshipping freely," and as soon as they got to New Eng they did just that!!! Made it so that one could not jpoin the Puritans unless one had land and money and unless one's father AND g-father had been members of a Puritan group - so they did just what they wanted to escape from - made a lot of rules that kept people under strict religious laws and combined the offices of church and state which they had fled Eng in the first place to avoid!! The Puritan governors and leaders, like the Winthrope mentioned here, were also the ones who ruled the Puritan church and selected the Puritan mionisters - turning New Eng./MA into a colony where the Puritan church was the only allowed church in the early colonial days!! Remeber The Scarlet Letter??!! Celeste --- Joy King <joyk@sc.rr.com> wrote: > I received this through my RootsWeb PML > subscription. Thought it would be of interest to > some. > > You can follow the mailing list thread here: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK/2006-12 > > Joy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Liane Fenimore > Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:59 AM > Source: ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK] Buckingham and > other connections > > There is a great deal about Hooker on the internet > and I (and I don't know much about Hooker) see > errors, contradictions, mispellings (Archbishop Laud > is called Land) in almost all of it. The article > below is from the Great Migration Series from the > New England Historic Genealogical Society which is > the best research done on these early immigrants > from England. As you can see, all statements fully > footnoted. He has a Bucks connection as he married > in Amersham. They give his origin at Rotterdam so > their thinking is that he came from there to > America. > > Some accounts say the Griffin sailed from the Downs > - but where is that? The South Downs? Wikipedia has > a nice article explaining the Downs. Internet > accounts say Hooker came back to England to get on > the ship and sail for America. I really wonder if > he didn't board the ship in Holland and maybe the > ship made a quick & pre-arranged stop somewhere on > the south > coast of England and picked up other passengers. > Maybe it also sailed directly from Holland. Many > ships did. If so, then your ancestor went to > Holland, too. > THOMAS HOOKER > > ORIGIN: Rotterdam > MIGRATION: 1633 in the Griffin [ WJ 1:129] > FIRST RESIDENCE: Cambridge > REMOVES: Hartford 1636 > OCCUPATION: Minister. > CHURCH MEMBERSHIP: On 11 October 1633 Winthrop > reported a "fast at Newtown, where Mr. Hooker was > chosen pastor, and Mr. Stone teacher, in such a > manner as before at Boston" [ WJ 1:137]. When Hooker > moved to Hartford the > church went with him, and he remained pastor there > until his death. > FREEMAN: 14 May 1634 [ MBCR 1:369]. > EDUCATION: Matriculated at Cambridge from > Queen's College 1604, migrated to Emmanuel, B.A., > 1607-8; M.A., 1611 [ Venn 2:403; Morison 382-83]. > His inventory included "books in his study" valued > at £300. > OFFICES: Arbiter, 7 May 1640 [ RPCC 11]. > ESTATE: Granted one acre for a cowyard at > Cambridge, 4 November 1633 [ CaTR 6]. Granted five > acres of land and another three acres of land, 5 > January 1633/4 [ CaTR 7]. Granted "five acres of > meadow ground in the mead next Watertown weir" and > "thirty acres of salt marsh on the south side > Charles River," 2 April 1635 [ CaTR 12]. In the > divison of meadow land on 20 August 1635 granted a > proportional share of zero [ CaTR 13]. Granted three > acres, 8 February 1635/6 [ CaTR 17]. In the 8 > February 1635/6 list of "houses" in the town, "Mr. > Tho[mas] Hooker" held four [ CaTR 18]. > In the Cambridge land inventory on 1 May 1635 > Thomas Hooker held four parcels of land: "in the > town one house with garden and backside about one > rood"; "in Cowyard Row one cow house and yard about > one acre"; "in Wigwam Neck about five acres"; and > "in the Long Marsh about three acres" [ CaBOP 3-4]. > On 2 May 1636 "Thomas Hooker of the New Towne" sold > to Nicholas Danforth "about one acre of land being > the lot of Edward Hopkins" [ CaBOP 38]. > There is no entry in the Hartford land > inventory of 1640 for Thomas Hooker, but his name is > mentioned frequently as an abutter in other entries > [ HaBOP passim]. > In his will, dated 7 July 1647 and proved > apparently in 1649, "Thomas Hooker of Hartford" > bequeathed to "my son John Hooker my housing and > lands in Hartford, aforesaid, both that which is on > the west, and also that which is on the east side of > the River, to be enjoyed by him and his heirs > forever, after the death of my wife, Susanna Hooker, > provided he be then at the age of one and twenty > years, it being my will that my said dear wife shall > enjoy and possess my said housing and lands during > her natural life"; to "my son John my library of > printed books and manuscripts" provided he "deliver > to my son Samuell" books to the value of £50, or the > cash equivalent, and "if my son John do not go on to > the perfecting of his studies, or shall not give up > himself to the service of the Lord in the work of > the ministry, my will is that my son Samuel enjoy > and possess the whole library and mansucripts, to > his proper use forever; only, it is my will that > whatever manuscripts shall be judged meet to be > printed ... and however I do not forbid my son John > from seeking and taking a wife in England, yet I do > forbid him from marrying and tarrying there"; to "my > son Samuell, in case the whole library come not to > him, as is before expressed, the sum of seventy > pounds"; to "my daughter Sarah Hooker" £100 at > marriage or at age twenty-one, "the disposal and > further education of her and the rest, I leave to my > wife"; to "the two children of my daughter Joannah > Shephard deceased, and the child of my daughter Mary > Newton, to each of them ten pounds"; "my beloved > wife Susanna Hooker" to be executrix and to receive > the residue of > the estate; "my beloved friends Mr. Edward Hopkins > and Mr. William Goodwyn" to be overseers [ Hartford > PD Case #2841; CCCR 1:498-501; Manwaring 1:16-18]. > The inventory of the estate of "Mr. Thomas > Hooker," taken 21 April 1649, totalled £1136 15s., > including £450 in real estate: "housing and lands > within the bounds of Hartford on both sides the > rive," £450. There was also "an adventure in the > Entrance," £50 [ Hartford PD Case #2841; CCCR > 1:501-02]. > BIRTH: About 1586 (based on matriculation at > Cambridge), son of Thomas Hooker of Marefield, > Tilton, Leicestershire [ DSGRM 5:122-24]. > DEATH: Hartford 7 July 1647 [ MHSC > 4:8:544-45]. Eliot wrote > This visitation of God was exceeding strange, > it was sudden & general, as if the Lord had > immediately sent forth an angel, not with a sword to > kill, but with a rod to chastize, & he smote all, > good & bad, old & young, or as if there were a > general infection of the air; which went from north > to south by degrees infecting all, yea, such as were > on the seas near our coasts were so infected & > smitted. And this is remarkable, that though few > died, yet some did, and generally those that died > were of our choicest flowers, & most precious > saints, among others that were then taken to rest > was that worthy & blessed light Mr. Hooker, who > having a cold & preached twice on the Sabbath (Mr. > Stone not being at home), and ministered both the > sacrament the Lord's supper in the forenoon & > baptism in the afternoon, he was so over spent, & > his spirits sunk, that he never could recover them > again [ RChR 190]. > MARRIAGE: Amersham, Buckinghamshire, 3 April > 1621 Susannah Garbrand [Bucks Marr 4:13]. She > married (2) after 7 December 1654 and before January > 1669/70 WILLIAM GOODWIN [ NEHGR 55:25]. (At a > Particular Court held on 7 > December 1654 Walter Gray was confessed to and was > punished for "his gross abuse & evil in slandering > Mr. Will[iam] Goodwyn & Mar. Hooker in charging them > with the act of adultery" [ RPCC 134-36].) > CHILDREN: > i JOANNA, b. say 1622; m. by about 1638 > as his second wife Rev. Thomas Shepard of Cambridge > [ Young's First Planters 554-55]. (Although Young > annotated this section of Shepard's memoirs to > indicate that the marriage took place in October > 1637, Shepard himself says the marriage was in the > "year after those wars in the country," meaning the > Pequot War of > 1637.) > > ii MARY, b. say 1624; m. by about 1646 > Rev. Roger Newton (she had one child by the date of > her father's will, 7 July 1647; see TAG 14:99-103). > > iii ANNE, bp. Great Baddow, Essex, 5 > January 1625/6; bur. Chelmsford, Essex, 23 May 1626. > > iv SARAH, bp. Chelmsford, Essex, 9 April > 1628; bur. Chelmsford 26 August 1629. > > v SARAH, b. say 1630; m. by 1649 Rev. > John Wilson, son of JOHN WILSON [ NEHGR 61:128; > Sibley 1:65-66]. > > vi JOHN, b. say 1631; returned to England > and married there, Savage says he became a parish > priest. > > vii SAMUEL, b. say 1633; Harvard 1653 [ > Sibley 1:348-52]; m. Plymouth 22 September 1658 Mary > Willett [ PCR 8:21], daughter of THOMAS WILLETT. > > viii Son, d. Cambridge late in 1634 [ WP > 3:177]. > > ASSOCIATIONS: One sister of Thomas Hooker, > perhaps named Anne, married GEORGE ALCOCK and > another === message truncated === test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com

There's a wonderful book, written in 1995 and published by Heart of the Lakes Publishing in Interlaken NY, titled "Thomas Hooker, 1586-1647: Father of American Democracy," by Deryck Collingwood. The subtitle, which is quite apt, is "A pilgrim's guide to the England he knew, the great people, and the stirring events leading to his becoming a pre-eminent figure in the founding of Puritan New England." Collingwood was not a descendant of Thomas Hooker; he was an Englishman and a Methodist minister who came across Hooker's writings in the course of his theological studies. Collingwood became such an admirer that he did, indeed, go on a pilgrimage to learn about Hooker's roots in England and Holland, and then about his life and work in New England. Collingwood's conclusion is that Hooker's ideas provided many of the philosophical underpinnings for our democracy. He was astonished to find that Hooker has been so little noted in the history of ideas in the United States, and his book is an attempt to redress this. The book is part travelogue and part history--very well researched and documented. If you are interested in Thomas Hooker and can find it, you'll enjoy reading this book. Maureen -----Original Message----- From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy King Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:21 AM To: hooker@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOOKER] Thomas Hooker from England I received this through my RootsWeb PML subscription. Thought it would be of interest to some. You can follow the mailing list thread here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK/2006-12 Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Liane Fenimore Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:59 AM Source: ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK] Buckingham and other connections There is a great deal about Hooker on the internet and I (and I don't know much about Hooker) see errors, contradictions, mispellings (Archbishop Laud is called Land) in almost all of it. The article below is from the Great Migration Series from the New England Historic Genealogical Society which is the best research done on these early immigrants from England. As you can see, all statements fully footnoted. He has a Bucks connection as he married in Amersham. They give his origin at Rotterdam so their thinking is that he came from there to America. Some accounts say the Griffin sailed from the Downs - but where is that? The South Downs? Wikipedia has a nice article explaining the Downs. Internet accounts say Hooker came back to England to get on the ship and sail for America. I really wonder if he didn't board the ship in Holland and maybe the ship made a quick & pre-arranged stop somewhere on the south coast of England and picked up other passengers. Maybe it also sailed directly from Holland. Many ships did. If so, then your ancestor went to Holland, too. THOMAS HOOKER ORIGIN: Rotterdam MIGRATION: 1633 in the Griffin [ WJ 1:129] FIRST RESIDENCE: Cambridge REMOVES: Hartford 1636 OCCUPATION: Minister. CHURCH MEMBERSHIP: On 11 October 1633 Winthrop reported a "fast at Newtown, where Mr. Hooker was chosen pastor, and Mr. Stone teacher, in such a manner as before at Boston" [ WJ 1:137]. When Hooker moved to Hartford the church went with him, and he remained pastor there until his death. FREEMAN: 14 May 1634 [ MBCR 1:369]. EDUCATION: Matriculated at Cambridge from Queen's College 1604, migrated to Emmanuel, B.A., 1607-8; M.A., 1611 [ Venn 2:403; Morison 382-83]. His inventory included "books in his study" valued at £300. OFFICES: Arbiter, 7 May 1640 [ RPCC 11]. ESTATE: Granted one acre for a cowyard at Cambridge, 4 November 1633 [ CaTR 6]. Granted five acres of land and another three acres of land, 5 January 1633/4 [ CaTR 7]. Granted "five acres of meadow ground in the mead next Watertown weir" and "thirty acres of salt marsh on the south side Charles River," 2 April 1635 [ CaTR 12]. In the divison of meadow land on 20 August 1635 granted a proportional share of zero [ CaTR 13]. Granted three acres, 8 February 1635/6 [ CaTR 17]. In the 8 February 1635/6 list of "houses" in the town, "Mr. Tho[mas] Hooker" held four [ CaTR 18]. In the Cambridge land inventory on 1 May 1635 Thomas Hooker held four parcels of land: "in the town one house with garden and backside about one rood"; "in Cowyard Row one cow house and yard about one acre"; "in Wigwam Neck about five acres"; and "in the Long Marsh about three acres" [ CaBOP 3-4]. On 2 May 1636 "Thomas Hooker of the New Towne" sold to Nicholas Danforth "about one acre of land being the lot of Edward Hopkins" [ CaBOP 38]. There is no entry in the Hartford land inventory of 1640 for Thomas Hooker, but his name is mentioned frequently as an abutter in other entries [ HaBOP passim]. In his will, dated 7 July 1647 and proved apparently in 1649, "Thomas Hooker of Hartford" bequeathed to "my son John Hooker my housing and lands in Hartford, aforesaid, both that which is on the west, and also that which is on the east side of the River, to be enjoyed by him and his heirs forever, after the death of my wife, Susanna Hooker, provided he be then at the age of one and twenty years, it being my will that my said dear wife shall enjoy and possess my said housing and lands during her natural life"; to "my son John my library of printed books and manuscripts" provided he "deliver to my son Samuell" books to the value of £50, or the cash equivalent, and "if my son John do not go on to the perfecting of his studies, or shall not give up himself to the service of the Lord in the work of the ministry, my will is that my son Samuel enjoy and possess the whole library and mansucripts, to his proper use forever; only, it is my will that whatever manuscripts shall be judged meet to be printed ... and however I do not forbid my son John from seeking and taking a wife in England, yet I do forbid him from marrying and tarrying there"; to "my son Samuell, in case the whole library come not to him, as is before expressed, the sum of seventy pounds"; to "my daughter Sarah Hooker" £100 at marriage or at age twenty-one, "the disposal and further education of her and the rest, I leave to my wife"; to "the two children of my daughter Joannah Shephard deceased, and the child of my daughter Mary Newton, to each of them ten pounds"; "my beloved wife Susanna Hooker" to be executrix and to receive the residue of the estate; "my beloved friends Mr. Edward Hopkins and Mr. William Goodwyn" to be overseers [ Hartford PD Case #2841; CCCR 1:498-501; Manwaring 1:16-18]. The inventory of the estate of "Mr. Thomas Hooker," taken 21 April 1649, totalled £1136 15s., including £450 in real estate: "housing and lands within the bounds of Hartford on both sides the rive," £450. There was also "an adventure in the Entrance," £50 [ Hartford PD Case #2841; CCCR 1:501-02]. BIRTH: About 1586 (based on matriculation at Cambridge), son of Thomas Hooker of Marefield, Tilton, Leicestershire [ DSGRM 5:122-24]. DEATH: Hartford 7 July 1647 [ MHSC 4:8:544-45]. Eliot wrote This visitation of God was exceeding strange, it was sudden & general, as if the Lord had immediately sent forth an angel, not with a sword to kill, but with a rod to chastize, & he smote all, good & bad, old & young, or as if there were a general infection of the air; which went from north to south by degrees infecting all, yea, such as were on the seas near our coasts were so infected & smitted. And this is remarkable, that though few died, yet some did, and generally those that died were of our choicest flowers, & most precious saints, among others that were then taken to rest was that worthy & blessed light Mr. Hooker, who having a cold & preached twice on the Sabbath (Mr. Stone not being at home), and ministered both the sacrament the Lord's supper in the forenoon & baptism in the afternoon, he was so over spent, & his spirits sunk, that he never could recover them again [ RChR 190]. MARRIAGE: Amersham, Buckinghamshire, 3 April 1621 Susannah Garbrand [Bucks Marr 4:13]. She married (2) after 7 December 1654 and before January 1669/70 WILLIAM GOODWIN [ NEHGR 55:25]. (At a Particular Court held on 7 December 1654 Walter Gray was confessed to and was punished for "his gross abuse & evil in slandering Mr. Will[iam] Goodwyn & Mar. Hooker in charging them with the act of adultery" [ RPCC 134-36].) CHILDREN: i JOANNA, b. say 1622; m. by about 1638 as his second wife Rev. Thomas Shepard of Cambridge [ Young's First Planters 554-55]. (Although Young annotated this section of Shepard's memoirs to indicate that the marriage took place in October 1637, Shepard himself says the marriage was in the "year after those wars in the country," meaning the Pequot War of 1637.) ii MARY, b. say 1624; m. by about 1646 Rev. Roger Newton (she had one child by the date of her father's will, 7 July 1647; see TAG 14:99-103). iii ANNE, bp. Great Baddow, Essex, 5 January 1625/6; bur. Chelmsford, Essex, 23 May 1626. iv SARAH, bp. Chelmsford, Essex, 9 April 1628; bur. Chelmsford 26 August 1629. v SARAH, b. say 1630; m. by 1649 Rev. John Wilson, son of JOHN WILSON [ NEHGR 61:128; Sibley 1:65-66]. vi JOHN, b. say 1631; returned to England and married there, Savage says he became a parish priest. vii SAMUEL, b. say 1633; Harvard 1653 [ Sibley 1:348-52]; m. Plymouth 22 September 1658 Mary Willett [ PCR 8:21], daughter of THOMAS WILLETT. viii Son, d. Cambridge late in 1634 [ WP 3:177]. ASSOCIATIONS: One sister of Thomas Hooker, perhaps named Anne, married GEORGE ALCOCK and another sister, Dorothy, married John Chester, and had with him LEONARD CHESTER . Thomas Hooker spent a few years in the household of Francis Drake of Esher, Surrey, amd made such a great impression that in his will of 13 March 1633/4 Drake made a bequest to"Johanna Hooker, who now is in New England," the daughter of Thomas Hooker [ PCC 43 Seager]. This Francis Drake was cousin of the JOHN DRAKE who made a brief appearance in New England in the early 1630s, and who also received a bequest in his will. COMMENTS: At court 5 March 1644[/5] Walter Grey was found guilty of "laboring to inveigle the affections of Mr. Hooker's maid" [ RPCC 33]. On 1 June 1654 Samuel Allen was ordered to pay Mistress Hooker three loads of wood for the one he confessed he stole from her [ RPCC 127]. The last four children, according to the estimates made here, were born during a short span of time. Perhaps Samuel was born after the son who died in 1634. BIBLIOGRAPHIC NOTE: Mather wrote a lengthy biographical sketch of Thomas Hooker [ Magnalia 332-52]. Brief accounts of the life of Thomas Hooker have been published in the Dictionary of National Biography and the Dictionary of American Biography . In 1977 Frank Shuffleton wrote a comprehensive, full-length biography of Hooker [ Thomas Hooker: 1586-1647 (Princeton 1977)]. Beginning The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received this through my RootsWeb PML subscription. Thought it would be of interest to some. You can follow the mailing list thread here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index/ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK/2006-12 Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Liane Fenimore Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 9:59 AM Source: ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-BKM-TINGEWICK] Buckingham and other connections There is a great deal about Hooker on the internet and I (and I don't know much about Hooker) see errors, contradictions, mispellings (Archbishop Laud is called Land) in almost all of it. The article below is from the Great Migration Series from the New England Historic Genealogical Society which is the best research done on these early immigrants from England. As you can see, all statements fully footnoted. He has a Bucks connection as he married in Amersham. They give his origin at Rotterdam so their thinking is that he came from there to America. Some accounts say the Griffin sailed from the Downs - but where is that? The South Downs? Wikipedia has a nice article explaining the Downs. Internet accounts say Hooker came back to England to get on the ship and sail for America. I really wonder if he didn't board the ship in Holland and maybe the ship made a quick & pre-arranged stop somewhere on the south coast of England and picked up other passengers. Maybe it also sailed directly from Holland. Many ships did. If so, then your ancestor went to Holland, too. THOMAS HOOKER ORIGIN: Rotterdam MIGRATION: 1633 in the Griffin [ WJ 1:129] FIRST RESIDENCE: Cambridge REMOVES: Hartford 1636 OCCUPATION: Minister. CHURCH MEMBERSHIP: On 11 October 1633 Winthrop reported a "fast at Newtown, where Mr. Hooker was chosen pastor, and Mr. Stone teacher, in such a manner as before at Boston" [ WJ 1:137]. When Hooker moved to Hartford the church went with him, and he remained pastor there until his death. FREEMAN: 14 May 1634 [ MBCR 1:369]. EDUCATION: Matriculated at Cambridge from Queen's College 1604, migrated to Emmanuel, B.A., 1607-8; M.A., 1611 [ Venn 2:403; Morison 382-83]. His inventory included "books in his study" valued at £300. OFFICES: Arbiter, 7 May 1640 [ RPCC 11]. ESTATE: Granted one acre for a cowyard at Cambridge, 4 November 1633 [ CaTR 6]. Granted five acres of land and another three acres of land, 5 January 1633/4 [ CaTR 7]. Granted "five acres of meadow ground in the mead next Watertown weir" and "thirty acres of salt marsh on the south side Charles River," 2 April 1635 [ CaTR 12]. In the divison of meadow land on 20 August 1635 granted a proportional share of zero [ CaTR 13]. Granted three acres, 8 February 1635/6 [ CaTR 17]. In the 8 February 1635/6 list of "houses" in the town, "Mr. Tho[mas] Hooker" held four [ CaTR 18]. In the Cambridge land inventory on 1 May 1635 Thomas Hooker held four parcels of land: "in the town one house with garden and backside about one rood"; "in Cowyard Row one cow house and yard about one acre"; "in Wigwam Neck about five acres"; and "in the Long Marsh about three acres" [ CaBOP 3-4]. On 2 May 1636 "Thomas Hooker of the New Towne" sold to Nicholas Danforth "about one acre of land being the lot of Edward Hopkins" [ CaBOP 38]. There is no entry in the Hartford land inventory of 1640 for Thomas Hooker, but his name is mentioned frequently as an abutter in other entries [ HaBOP passim]. In his will, dated 7 July 1647 and proved apparently in 1649, "Thomas Hooker of Hartford" bequeathed to "my son John Hooker my housing and lands in Hartford, aforesaid, both that which is on the west, and also that which is on the east side of the River, to be enjoyed by him and his heirs forever, after the death of my wife, Susanna Hooker, provided he be then at the age of one and twenty years, it being my will that my said dear wife shall enjoy and possess my said housing and lands during her natural life"; to "my son John my library of printed books and manuscripts" provided he "deliver to my son Samuell" books to the value of £50, or the cash equivalent, and "if my son John do not go on to the perfecting of his studies, or shall not give up himself to the service of the Lord in the work of the ministry, my will is that my son Samuel enjoy and possess the whole library and mansucripts, to his proper use forever; only, it is my will that whatever manuscripts shall be judged meet to be printed ... and however I do not forbid my son John from seeking and taking a wife in England, yet I do forbid him from marrying and tarrying there"; to "my son Samuell, in case the whole library come not to him, as is before expressed, the sum of seventy pounds"; to "my daughter Sarah Hooker" £100 at marriage or at age twenty-one, "the disposal and further education of her and the rest, I leave to my wife"; to "the two children of my daughter Joannah Shephard deceased, and the child of my daughter Mary Newton, to each of them ten pounds"; "my beloved wife Susanna Hooker" to be executrix and to receive the residue of the estate; "my beloved friends Mr. Edward Hopkins and Mr. William Goodwyn" to be overseers [ Hartford PD Case #2841; CCCR 1:498-501; Manwaring 1:16-18]. The inventory of the estate of "Mr. Thomas Hooker," taken 21 April 1649, totalled £1136 15s., including £450 in real estate: "housing and lands within the bounds of Hartford on both sides the rive," £450. There was also "an adventure in the Entrance," £50 [ Hartford PD Case #2841; CCCR 1:501-02]. BIRTH: About 1586 (based on matriculation at Cambridge), son of Thomas Hooker of Marefield, Tilton, Leicestershire [ DSGRM 5:122-24]. DEATH: Hartford 7 July 1647 [ MHSC 4:8:544-45]. Eliot wrote This visitation of God was exceeding strange, it was sudden & general, as if the Lord had immediately sent forth an angel, not with a sword to kill, but with a rod to chastize, & he smote all, good & bad, old & young, or as if there were a general infection of the air; which went from north to south by degrees infecting all, yea, such as were on the seas near our coasts were so infected & smitted. And this is remarkable, that though few died, yet some did, and generally those that died were of our choicest flowers, & most precious saints, among others that were then taken to rest was that worthy & blessed light Mr. Hooker, who having a cold & preached twice on the Sabbath (Mr. Stone not being at home), and ministered both the sacrament the Lord's supper in the forenoon & baptism in the afternoon, he was so over spent, & his spirits sunk, that he never could recover them again [ RChR 190]. MARRIAGE: Amersham, Buckinghamshire, 3 April 1621 Susannah Garbrand [Bucks Marr 4:13]. She married (2) after 7 December 1654 and before January 1669/70 WILLIAM GOODWIN [ NEHGR 55:25]. (At a Particular Court held on 7 December 1654 Walter Gray was confessed to and was punished for "his gross abuse & evil in slandering Mr. Will[iam] Goodwyn & Mar. Hooker in charging them with the act of adultery" [ RPCC 134-36].) CHILDREN: i JOANNA, b. say 1622; m. by about 1638 as his second wife Rev. Thomas Shepard of Cambridge [ Young's First Planters 554-55]. (Although Young annotated this section of Shepard's memoirs to indicate that the marriage took place in October 1637, Shepard himself says the marriage was in the "year after those wars in the country," meaning the Pequot War of 1637.) ii MARY, b. say 1624; m. by about 1646 Rev. Roger Newton (she had one child by the date of her father's will, 7 July 1647; see TAG 14:99-103). iii ANNE, bp. Great Baddow, Essex, 5 January 1625/6; bur. Chelmsford, Essex, 23 May 1626. iv SARAH, bp. Chelmsford, Essex, 9 April 1628; bur. Chelmsford 26 August 1629. v SARAH, b. say 1630; m. by 1649 Rev. John Wilson, son of JOHN WILSON [ NEHGR 61:128; Sibley 1:65-66]. vi JOHN, b. say 1631; returned to England and married there, Savage says he became a parish priest. vii SAMUEL, b. say 1633; Harvard 1653 [ Sibley 1:348-52]; m. Plymouth 22 September 1658 Mary Willett [ PCR 8:21], daughter of THOMAS WILLETT. viii Son, d. Cambridge late in 1634 [ WP 3:177]. ASSOCIATIONS: One sister of Thomas Hooker, perhaps named Anne, married GEORGE ALCOCK and another sister, Dorothy, married John Chester, and had with him LEONARD CHESTER . Thomas Hooker spent a few years in the household of Francis Drake of Esher, Surrey, amd made such a great impression that in his will of 13 March 1633/4 Drake made a bequest to"Johanna Hooker, who now is in New England," the daughter of Thomas Hooker [ PCC 43 Seager]. This Francis Drake was cousin of the JOHN DRAKE who made a brief appearance in New England in the early 1630s, and who also received a bequest in his will. COMMENTS: At court 5 March 1644[/5] Walter Grey was found guilty of "laboring to inveigle the affections of Mr. Hooker's maid" [ RPCC 33]. On 1 June 1654 Samuel Allen was ordered to pay Mistress Hooker three loads of wood for the one he confessed he stole from her [ RPCC 127]. The last four children, according to the estimates made here, were born during a short span of time. Perhaps Samuel was born after the son who died in 1634. BIBLIOGRAPHIC NOTE: Mather wrote a lengthy biographical sketch of Thomas Hooker [ Magnalia 332-52]. Brief accounts of the life of Thomas Hooker have been published in the Dictionary of National Biography and the Dictionary of American Biography . In 1977 Frank Shuffleton wrote a comprehensive, full-length biography of Hooker [ Thomas Hooker: 1586-1647 (Princeton 1977)]. Beginning The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III

Yes I knew about it. There should be a file in some gov't office. I asked Darrell but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. Joyce

I guess the person who posted the info accessed an on-line file from the war of 1812 to get that info?? Did they state where they got it? I knew that Darrell had info that George died pretty late in life and was buried in Franklin Co., AL - the last census I have on George is in 1860 in Winston Co.,AL where he had moved by 1850. Do you have George on a census in 1870? Darrell has some kind of obit on George in a Methodist magazine, I think. I am trying to get Darrell to look at the 1770-90 Middle TN census that was taken there to see if our guys might have been over that way by 1790. They had to be in TN by the late 1790s, probably, and it seems since Samuel married a Nolan and he and George and Robert moved directly N to KY that they were in Middle TN. All the Nolans in TN were living in/around Williamson CO.,TN in the early 1800s and Williamson Co., Tn was carved out of Davidson Co.,TN c 1799. We also have that tax record of Thoams and Wm being in Williamson Co.,TN from 1801-1818 - at least one of them on the tax rolls each yr - that is the time they would have been old enough to be taxed - having been b in the late 1770s. Robert stating b Tn at times and John (b 1792 in TN) always stating b TN seems to indicate they were at least in what later became E TN by 1792. Most people moved west from E TN westward c 1800 when the Indian territory became more safe to cross - some even crossed to Middle TN by 1770 - as is eveidenced by having a census in that area in 1770. I wonder since there was a census in Middle TN in 1770 -1790 if there were any censuses taken in eastern TN territory at the same time?? Wonder if the TN Archives would have that info?? You mentioned you had been tot he TN archives didn't you?? I feel there must be info there that woudl help us find these 6 guys' parents' names. Celeste --- Jmw1431@aol.com wrote: > Yes I knew about it. There should be a file in some > gov't office. I asked > Darrell but he hasn't gotten back to me yet. > > Joyce > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.

Looking for descendants of these Hooker males - all but S N (Samuel N) James, and Francis P were b in AL between 1830s-1840s and Samuel N was b in TN c 1810. Samuel N Hooker's wife was Sarah D (b in AL c 1815). James and Francis P were b in MS. There were daughters Elizabeth, Martha, Easter/Ester, Melissa (all b between 1830 and 1840s in AL). If anyone has info please let me knpow - we believe this is the Samuel N Hooker who was in Lawrence Co.,AL in 1830 on the census. We feel they are related to/descended from the line of the 6 brothers (born mostly in NC between 1770s-1780s). Samuel N/S N Hooker is on the Yazoo Co., MS census in 1850 adn 1860. Celeste adellaholly@yahoo.com test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

These seem to be MA Hookers I did nto find George in this?? Celeste --- ggroll <ggroll@core.com> wrote: > Hooker, ? (*1832 - ) - male > spouse: Noyes, Nancy J. (*1836 - ) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga122.html#I36224> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hooker, Mary (*1673 - 1740) - female > d. 1 NOV 1740 > father: Hooker, Samuel (*1638 - ) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17864> > mother: Willet, Mary (*1642 - ) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga175.html#I52046> > spouse: Pierpont, James (1660 - 1714) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga137.html#I40951> > - m. 26 JUL 1698 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Hooker, Samuel (*1638 - ) - male > spouse: Willet, Mary (*1642 - ) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga175.html#I52046> > ----------child: Hooker, Mary (*1673 - 1740) > <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17863> > http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17862 > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index

This is Joyce's George - one of the 6 Hooker brothers of our line. Did you have his 1812 service, Joyce?? Celeste --- ggroll <ggroll@core.com> wrote: > http://www.tngenweb.org/records/davidson/nca/nca4-06.htm > > GEORGE HOOKER born N.C. June 15, 1787; died Franklin > co., Ala. Feb. 15, > 1873; served under command of General Harrison in > War of 1812. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

Hello, I was in contact at one time with someone who was a descendant of this family, and I was wondering if that person will please contact me if you are on these lists. I have some questions for you. Thank you, Charlotte Miller Descendants of John Hooker Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 HOOKER was born Bet. 1795 - 1800 in North Carolina or Tennessee. He married MARIAH ?. She was born Abt. 1813 in North Carolina. Notes for JOHN HOOKER: On 1850 Knox County, Kentucky, Census, George Sprinkle, age 18, born in Virginia was living with them and was a laborer. On 1860 Knox County, Kentucky, Census, these children are listed as living with them: HH #148/148 John Hooker, 65, Male, Farmer, Tennessee, 1 Mariah, 46, Female, North Carolina, 1 Telitha, 30, Female, Kentucky Rachell, 27, Female, Kentucky Berren, 7, Male, Ky. Thomas, 6, Male, Ky. Jackson, 5, Male, Ky. Taswell, 8, Male, Ky. Hannah, 6, Female, Ky. John, 4, Male, Ky. Martha, 2, Female, Ky. More About JOHN HOOKER: Occupation: Laborer Children of JOHN HOOKER and MARIAH ? are: 2. i. CHARLES H.2 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1828, Tennessee. 3. ii. TELETHIA/TELITHA C. HOOKER, b. Abt. 1830, Kentucky. 4. iii. RACHEL J. HOOKER, b. Abt. 1832, Kentucky. Generation No. 2 2. CHARLES H.2 HOOKER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1828 in Tennessee. He married (1) EMALINE/EMELINE CUMMINS August 04, 1857 in Whitley County, Ky.. She was born Abt. 1840 in Kentucky. He married (2) CAROLINE MIDDLETON March 31, 1871 in Lincoln County, Ky.. She died Bef. 1880. Notes for CHARLES H. HOOKER: 1870 Stanford, Lincoln County, Kentucky Census 7-29-1870 HH #281/264 Hooker, Charles, 42, M, W, Laborer, Tennessee " , Emaline, 30, F, W, Keeps House, Kentucky " , Moses, 13, M, W, Works on Farm, Kentucky " , Hannah, 69, F, W, Lives in Family, Tennessee Lee , Jane, 34, F, W, Lives in Family, Tennessee " , Whitfield, 15, M, W, Works on Farm, Kentucky " , Thomas, 10, M, W, Works on Farm, Kentucky " , John, 6, M, W, Kentucky More About CHARLES H. HOOKER: Census: July 29, 1870, Stanford, Lincoln County, Kentucky Occupation 1: 1870, Laborer Occupation 2: 1880, Stone Mason More About EMALINE/EMELINE CUMMINS: Name 2: Emaline ? More About CHARLES HOOKER and EMALINE/EMELINE CUMMINS: Marriage: August 04, 1857, Whitley County, Ky. More About CHARLES HOOKER and CAROLINE MIDDLETON: Marriage: March 31, 1871, Lincoln County, Ky. Child of CHARLES HOOKER and EMALINE/EMELINE CUMMINS is: i. MOSES3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1857, Kentucky. 3. TELETHIA/TELITHA C.2 HOOKER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1830 in Kentucky. She married (1) ?. She married (2) PATRICK MCGARVEY Aft. 1858. He was born Abt. 1844 in Ireland. Notes for PATRICK MCGARVEY: Household Record 1880 United States Census Search results | Download Previous Household Next Household ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Pat MC GARVEY Self M Male W 36 IRELAND Stone Mason IRELAND IRELAND Falitha MC GARVEY Wife M Female W 45 KY Keeps House NC NC Martha H. MC GARVEY Dau S Female W 17 KY At Home IRELAND NC Patrick MC GARVEY Son S Male W 8 KY IRELAND NC Charlie HOOKER Other W Male W 50 TN Stone Mason NC NC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Source Information: Census Place Stanford, Lincoln, Kentucky Family History Library Film 1254428 NA Film Number T9-0428 Page Number 165B More About PATRICK MCGARVEY: Census: 1880, Stanford, Lincoln County, Kentucky Occupation: Stone Mason More About PATRICK MCGARVEY and TELETHIA/TELITHA HOOKER: Marriage: Aft. 1858 Children of TELETHIA/TELITHA HOOKER and ? are: i. THOMAS B.3 HOOKER, b. May 15, 1854, Knox County, Kentucky. ii. BARREN HOOKER, b. 1856. iii. MARTHA JANE HOOKER, b. April 10, 1858, Knox County, Kentucky; d. October 13, 1931, Lincoln County, Kentucky; m. FRANK DAVIS, December 08, 1887, Lincoln County, Kentucky. Marriage Notes for MARTHA HOOKER and FRANK DAVIS: Married at the home of Pat McGarvey, Telitha's second husband. More About FRANK DAVIS and MARTHA HOOKER: Marriage: December 08, 1887, Lincoln County, Kentucky iv. FRANK HOOKER, b. 1860. Child of TELETHIA/TELITHA HOOKER and PATRICK MCGARVEY is: v. PATRICK3 MCGARVEY, JR., b. Abt. 1872, Kentucky. 4. RACHEL J.2 HOOKER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1832 in Kentucky. She married ?. Children of RACHEL HOOKER and ? are: i. HANNAH M.3 HOOKER, b. December 20, 1854, Knox County, Kentucky. ii. WILLIAM T. HOOKER, b. March 30, 1856, Knox County, Kentucky.

Hooker, John W., dry goods and groceries, 152 Lake, res 84 Dearborn ,Chicago ,Ill. [died May 14, 1866, aged 64. http://all-ancestors.com/chicago/chicago023.htm

Yes, as soon as you can let us know about the earlier Gabriel - this could be another link as I feel that Jack's Hookers (who came into Patrick Co., VA from NW NC in the early 1800s) were originally from VA and just slipped over the line at some point c 1750s - the Dan River flows from VA (the Patrick Co.,area) into what was Surrey Co., NC and what I think later became Stokes Co., NC so it owudl be easy for them to go over that "line" in those days. If we can fnd a Gabriel early on in VA that is another clue that Jack's Hookers were origially from VA (that it was a family name) - as they must have been at some time, of course, but maybe that will pin down the time/family line they came from. In our Hooker "6 brothers" line we do not use Godfrey or Simon but do use Robert, James, Wm., Samuel, and George (and of course John and Thomas). That is why I feel this VA line and ours are connected as our given names and theirs are "closer" than ours are to your Wm "I"'s line from eastern NC (early 1700s) and previously eastern VA c 1600s. Of course I feel they will all connect to the early VA Hooekrs in the early 1600s if we get back that far - Wm "I" had ot have left other reltives in VA when he "crossed the line" in the late 1600s - those Hookers probably moved westward within VA as that area opened up. So the original line/family diverged c late 1600s when your Wm "I" crossed into NC and soem of the names began to differ then as they used names fromt eh mother's side or friends' and neighbors' names for their children's given naems. Did you ever hear fromt he Episcopal Archives - an e-address?? Celeste --- Sharon Marsalis <sharonmarsalis@hotmail.com> wrote: > Well, I thought I would have a little time but the > guys are still here > refinishing floors etc so I have only been able to > look one time at all > this.You probably already know-there was a Hooker (2 > actually) in Brooke Co, > VA in the early 1800s. This Brooke Co. is actually > in West VA today and came > out of Ohio Co. One was a Richard Hooker and I am > going to try and link the > various censuses and times and VA/NC/West VA when > things settle down. The > name that continues to intrigue me is Gabriel Hooker > (once indexed as > Gabrek). I know the one in the 1850s was Jack's and > there was a much earlier > one. It is certainly not the usual Hooker name--like > Godfrey and Symon > Anyway sometimes just writing things down makes > everything clearer. > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Adella Holly > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:05 PM > To: hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. > 1824-1828 VA?attenSharon > > Sharon, We did have the info you list below, I just > oculd not access it on my computer from the web site > it was on (my computer being old). Charlotte had the > original marriage cert. from this marriage - what we > are trying to do is tie this Samuel to either the > family of Jack's Wm Hooker (b c 1755 in NC) who came > into VA in the ealry 1800s from (NW) NC or to the > family of the Samuel listed in Patrick Co., VA in > 1820 > living next to Charlotte's Esom (this Samuel is most > probably the father of Esom (b c 1796 in VA and John > (b c 1797 in VA). This Samuel is much older than > Esom > in 1820 and living next door. Then this John and > Esom > move to TN and live side by side by 1830. > > This is going to probably be a link to my 6 Hooker > brothers and also to the Randolph Co., NC Hooekrs > who > use the same names - including using Isham as a name > (in Randolph Co., NC) in about the same generation > as > this Isham - their other given names are similar to > other VA Hookers and to my line of 6 brothers. And > the dates are also similar - Jack Hookers chidlren > were b about the same time as Esom and John in the > late 1700s and also about the same time as our 6 > brothers - seems they could all be close cousins. > > These western VA and western NC guys could all be > closely related descended from the Hookers who > stayed > in VA until about the 1750s when some might have > just > slipped across into Surrey and Stokes Cos in NC. > They > could have not even known they were going into NC - > just folloed the Dan River south a ways - their land > could have even sretched over the state line. > > This would make these Hookers closely related to > each > other and more distantly relate to Wm "I's" line > (they > might descend from Hookers in his line who stayed in > VA when he crossed over in the late 1600s into > eastern > NC). > > I feel still that we all may ultimately be related > back in early VA - but these western NC Hookers > share > names that the western VA Hookers used and the > eastern > line from Wm "I" did not use as much - ie: George, > Robert, Samuel, and now Isham. > > Sharon, did you ever get an e-mail back from the > archives of the Episcopal Church in Austin, TX? Did > they send you a direct e-address for themselves? You > sent me a phone #, but I thought myabe an e-mail > might > be easier/less expensive for me - you never said if > they replied from the actual Archives in TX?? > > Celeste > > > --- Sharon Marsalis <sharonmarsalis@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > I am just now beginning to have a little time here > > and there to catch up and > > digest. As for the Isham who married a Louisa > > Morris: IshamHooker > > Gender: Male > > Estimated birth year: 1861 > > Age: 18 > > Race: White > > > > Spouse: Louisa Morris > > Spouse Gender: Female > > Spouse Estimated Birth Year :1856 > > Spouse Age: 23 > > Spouse Race: White > > > > Marriage Date: 4 Oct > > Marriage County: Surry > > Marriage State: North Carolina > > > > Source Vendor: North Carolina State Archives" > > The info was on ancestry.com's NC Marriage > Records. > > The year of marriage was > > not listed but would have been 1879. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of Adella Holly > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:46 PM > > To: hooker@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. > > 1824-1828 VA?atten Charlotte > > andJoyce > > > > Louisa could have died young or been using a > middle > > name/another given name on the census. > > > > Sharon had posted on Sept 29th, 2006 that Samuel > and > > Lucinda Hooker had a son, Joel, who died at age 28 > > days in 1855 in Patrick Co.,VA of "bold hives." > > > > Other posts on that day by Sharon were of the > mother > > of Jack Hooker's Jesse, Mary Hooker, died at age > 92 > > in 1858 of a fever - informant Jesse Hooker, son. > > > > There were 2 other Hooker deaths she posted that > day > > and several land records between 1771-1801 in > > Patrick > > Co.,VA listing Robert Hooker (Koger Creek), a > Samuel > > on the Dan River and a Wm Hooker all between those > > dates in Patrick Co.,VA. > > > > Jack is having to answer me at a later date - can > > anyone remember when his Wm came over the line > from > > NC into VA c early 1800s? > > > > Celeste > > --- Jmw1431@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > I couldn't find them either. > > > > > > Joyce > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/25/2006 5:57:30 P.M. > Central > > > Standard Time, > > > CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com writes: > > > > > > Is this the right Samuel Hooker who is > supposed > > to > > > be the father of the > > > Isham Hooker who married Louisa Morris? > > > I could not find an Isham Hooker with a wife > > named > > > Louisa on any census. > > > I couldn't find this Isham Hooker on the 1880 > or > > > 1900 censuses. > > > Thanks, > > > Charlotte > > > > > > Descendants of Samuel Hooker > > > > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > > > 1. SAMUEL1 HOOKER was born Bet. 1824 - 1828 > in > === message truncated === test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com

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Hooker, ? (*1832 - ) - male spouse: Noyes, Nancy J. (*1836 - ) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga122.html#I36224> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hooker, Mary (*1673 - 1740) - female d. 1 NOV 1740 father: Hooker, Samuel (*1638 - ) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17864> mother: Willet, Mary (*1642 - ) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga175.html#I52046> spouse: Pierpont, James (1660 - 1714) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga137.html#I40951> - m. 26 JUL 1698 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hooker, Samuel (*1638 - ) - male spouse: Willet, Mary (*1642 - ) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga175.html#I52046> ----------child: Hooker, Mary (*1673 - 1740) <http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17863> http://noyes.rootsweb.com/wga60.html#I17862 ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

http://www.tngenweb.org/records/davidson/nca/nca4-06.htm GEORGE HOOKER born N.C. June 15, 1787; died Franklin co., Ala. Feb. 15, 1873; served under command of General Harrison in War of 1812.

Well, I thought I would have a little time but the guys are still here refinishing floors etc so I have only been able to look one time at all this.You probably already know-there was a Hooker (2 actually) in Brooke Co, VA in the early 1800s. This Brooke Co. is actually in West VA today and came out of Ohio Co. One was a Richard Hooker and I am going to try and link the various censuses and times and VA/NC/West VA when things settle down. The name that continues to intrigue me is Gabriel Hooker (once indexed as Gabrek). I know the one in the 1850s was Jack's and there was a much earlier one. It is certainly not the usual Hooker name--like Godfrey and Symon Anyway sometimes just writing things down makes everything clearer. -----Original Message----- From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adella Holly Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 12:05 PM To: hooker@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. 1824-1828 VA?attenSharon Sharon, We did have the info you list below, I just oculd not access it on my computer from the web site it was on (my computer being old). Charlotte had the original marriage cert. from this marriage - what we are trying to do is tie this Samuel to either the family of Jack's Wm Hooker (b c 1755 in NC) who came into VA in the ealry 1800s from (NW) NC or to the family of the Samuel listed in Patrick Co., VA in 1820 living next to Charlotte's Esom (this Samuel is most probably the father of Esom (b c 1796 in VA and John (b c 1797 in VA). This Samuel is much older than Esom in 1820 and living next door. Then this John and Esom move to TN and live side by side by 1830. This is going to probably be a link to my 6 Hooker brothers and also to the Randolph Co., NC Hooekrs who use the same names - including using Isham as a name (in Randolph Co., NC) in about the same generation as this Isham - their other given names are similar to other VA Hookers and to my line of 6 brothers. And the dates are also similar - Jack Hookers chidlren were b about the same time as Esom and John in the late 1700s and also about the same time as our 6 brothers - seems they could all be close cousins. These western VA and western NC guys could all be closely related descended from the Hookers who stayed in VA until about the 1750s when some might have just slipped across into Surrey and Stokes Cos in NC. They could have not even known they were going into NC - just folloed the Dan River south a ways - their land could have even sretched over the state line. This would make these Hookers closely related to each other and more distantly relate to Wm "I's" line (they might descend from Hookers in his line who stayed in VA when he crossed over in the late 1600s into eastern NC). I feel still that we all may ultimately be related back in early VA - but these western NC Hookers share names that the western VA Hookers used and the eastern line from Wm "I" did not use as much - ie: George, Robert, Samuel, and now Isham. Sharon, did you ever get an e-mail back from the archives of the Episcopal Church in Austin, TX? Did they send you a direct e-address for themselves? You sent me a phone #, but I thought myabe an e-mail might be easier/less expensive for me - you never said if they replied from the actual Archives in TX?? Celeste --- Sharon Marsalis <sharonmarsalis@hotmail.com> wrote: > I am just now beginning to have a little time here > and there to catch up and > digest. As for the Isham who married a Louisa > Morris: IshamHooker > Gender: Male > Estimated birth year: 1861 > Age: 18 > Race: White > > Spouse: Louisa Morris > Spouse Gender: Female > Spouse Estimated Birth Year :1856 > Spouse Age: 23 > Spouse Race: White > > Marriage Date: 4 Oct > Marriage County: Surry > Marriage State: North Carolina > > Source Vendor: North Carolina State Archives" > The info was on ancestry.com's NC Marriage Records. > The year of marriage was > not listed but would have been 1879. > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Adella Holly > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:46 PM > To: hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. > 1824-1828 VA?atten Charlotte > andJoyce > > Louisa could have died young or been using a middle > name/another given name on the census. > > Sharon had posted on Sept 29th, 2006 that Samuel and > Lucinda Hooker had a son, Joel, who died at age 28 > days in 1855 in Patrick Co.,VA of "bold hives." > > Other posts on that day by Sharon were of the mother > of Jack Hooker's Jesse, Mary Hooker, died at age 92 > in 1858 of a fever - informant Jesse Hooker, son. > > There were 2 other Hooker deaths she posted that day > and several land records between 1771-1801 in > Patrick > Co.,VA listing Robert Hooker (Koger Creek), a Samuel > on the Dan River and a Wm Hooker all between those > dates in Patrick Co.,VA. > > Jack is having to answer me at a later date - can > anyone remember when his Wm came over the line from > NC into VA c early 1800s? > > Celeste > --- Jmw1431@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I couldn't find them either. > > > > Joyce > > > > > > In a message dated 11/25/2006 5:57:30 P.M. Central > > Standard Time, > > CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com writes: > > > > Is this the right Samuel Hooker who is supposed > to > > be the father of the > > Isham Hooker who married Louisa Morris? > > I could not find an Isham Hooker with a wife > named > > Louisa on any census. > > I couldn't find this Isham Hooker on the 1880 or > > 1900 censuses. > > Thanks, > > Charlotte > > > > Descendants of Samuel Hooker > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. SAMUEL1 HOOKER was born Bet. 1824 - 1828 in > > Virginia. He married > > LUCINDA ?. She was born Abt. 1827 in Virginia. > > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and LUCINDA ? are: > > i. ELIZABETH2 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1852. > > 2. ii. SAMUEL T. HOOKER, b. Abt. > > 1856, Virginia. > > iii. GABRIEL HOOKER, b. Abt. 1857. > > iv. MARY A. HOOKER, b. Abt. 1859. > > 3. v. ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER, b. > > Abt. 1862, Virginia. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. SAMUEL T.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. > > 1856 in Virginia. He > > married > > MARTHA ?. She was born Abt. 1858 in Virginia. > > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and MARTHA ? are: > > i. ELLEN3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1876, Virginia. > > ii. ELIZABETH HOOKER, b. Abt. 1877. > > iii. BINDY ANN HOOKER, b. Abt. 1879. > > 3. ISOM/ISHAM B.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born > Abt. > > 1862 in Virginia. He > > married ELIZA ?. She was born Abt. 1861 in > > Virginia. > > Notes for ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > > On 1870 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > Age 10. > > On 1910 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH # 11/11 > > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 48, M, 28, VA, VA, VA > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 49, M, 28, 3, 3, VA, VA, > > VA > > Sam ", Son, M, W, 32, S, VA, VA, VA, Home > Farm > > > > Lucy ". Dau, F, W, 14, S, VA, VA, VA > > On 1920 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH # 166/166 > > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 59, M, VA, VA, VA > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 63, M, VA, VA, VA > > On 1930, Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH #104/106 > > Isom Hooker, Head, Owns, M, W, 68, M, 18, > Virginia, > > Virginia, Virginia > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 73, M, 23, Virginia, > > Virginia, Virginia > > More About ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > > Census: April 10, 1930, Dan River District, > Patrick > > Co., VA. > > Occupation: Farmer > > Children of ISOM/ISHAM HOOKER and ELIZA ? are: > > i. SAM3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1878, Virginia. > > ii. LUCY HOOKER, b. Abt. 1896, Virginia. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > test'; "> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Want to start your own business? > Learn how on Yahoo! 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Sharon, We did have the info you list below, I just oculd not access it on my computer from the web site it was on (my computer being old). Charlotte had the original marriage cert. from this marriage - what we are trying to do is tie this Samuel to either the family of Jack's Wm Hooker (b c 1755 in NC) who came into VA in the ealry 1800s from (NW) NC or to the family of the Samuel listed in Patrick Co., VA in 1820 living next to Charlotte's Esom (this Samuel is most probably the father of Esom (b c 1796 in VA and John (b c 1797 in VA). This Samuel is much older than Esom in 1820 and living next door. Then this John and Esom move to TN and live side by side by 1830. This is going to probably be a link to my 6 Hooker brothers and also to the Randolph Co., NC Hooekrs who use the same names - including using Isham as a name (in Randolph Co., NC) in about the same generation as this Isham - their other given names are similar to other VA Hookers and to my line of 6 brothers. And the dates are also similar - Jack Hookers chidlren were b about the same time as Esom and John in the late 1700s and also about the same time as our 6 brothers - seems they could all be close cousins. These western VA and western NC guys could all be closely related descended from the Hookers who stayed in VA until about the 1750s when some might have just slipped across into Surrey and Stokes Cos in NC. They could have not even known they were going into NC - just folloed the Dan River south a ways - their land could have even sretched over the state line. This would make these Hookers closely related to each other and more distantly relate to Wm "I's" line (they might descend from Hookers in his line who stayed in VA when he crossed over in the late 1600s into eastern NC). I feel still that we all may ultimately be related back in early VA - but these western NC Hookers share names that the western VA Hookers used and the eastern line from Wm "I" did not use as much - ie: George, Robert, Samuel, and now Isham. Sharon, did you ever get an e-mail back from the archives of the Episcopal Church in Austin, TX? Did they send you a direct e-address for themselves? You sent me a phone #, but I thought myabe an e-mail might be easier/less expensive for me - you never said if they replied from the actual Archives in TX?? Celeste --- Sharon Marsalis <sharonmarsalis@hotmail.com> wrote: > I am just now beginning to have a little time here > and there to catch up and > digest. As for the Isham who married a Louisa > Morris: IshamHooker > Gender: Male > Estimated birth year: 1861 > Age: 18 > Race: White > > Spouse: Louisa Morris > Spouse Gender: Female > Spouse Estimated Birth Year :1856 > Spouse Age: 23 > Spouse Race: White > > Marriage Date: 4 Oct > Marriage County: Surry > Marriage State: North Carolina > > Source Vendor: North Carolina State Archives" > The info was on ancestry.com's NC Marriage Records. > The year of marriage was > not listed but would have been 1879. > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Adella Holly > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:46 PM > To: hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. > 1824-1828 VA?atten Charlotte > andJoyce > > Louisa could have died young or been using a middle > name/another given name on the census. > > Sharon had posted on Sept 29th, 2006 that Samuel and > Lucinda Hooker had a son, Joel, who died at age 28 > days in 1855 in Patrick Co.,VA of "bold hives." > > Other posts on that day by Sharon were of the mother > of Jack Hooker's Jesse, Mary Hooker, died at age 92 > in 1858 of a fever - informant Jesse Hooker, son. > > There were 2 other Hooker deaths she posted that day > and several land records between 1771-1801 in > Patrick > Co.,VA listing Robert Hooker (Koger Creek), a Samuel > on the Dan River and a Wm Hooker all between those > dates in Patrick Co.,VA. > > Jack is having to answer me at a later date - can > anyone remember when his Wm came over the line from > NC into VA c early 1800s? > > Celeste > --- Jmw1431@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I couldn't find them either. > > > > Joyce > > > > > > In a message dated 11/25/2006 5:57:30 P.M. Central > > Standard Time, > > CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com writes: > > > > Is this the right Samuel Hooker who is supposed > to > > be the father of the > > Isham Hooker who married Louisa Morris? > > I could not find an Isham Hooker with a wife > named > > Louisa on any census. > > I couldn't find this Isham Hooker on the 1880 or > > 1900 censuses. > > Thanks, > > Charlotte > > > > Descendants of Samuel Hooker > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. SAMUEL1 HOOKER was born Bet. 1824 - 1828 in > > Virginia. He married > > LUCINDA ?. She was born Abt. 1827 in Virginia. > > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and LUCINDA ? are: > > i. ELIZABETH2 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1852. > > 2. ii. SAMUEL T. HOOKER, b. Abt. > > 1856, Virginia. > > iii. GABRIEL HOOKER, b. Abt. 1857. > > iv. MARY A. HOOKER, b. Abt. 1859. > > 3. v. ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER, b. > > Abt. 1862, Virginia. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. SAMUEL T.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. > > 1856 in Virginia. He > > married > > MARTHA ?. She was born Abt. 1858 in Virginia. > > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and MARTHA ? are: > > i. ELLEN3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1876, Virginia. > > ii. ELIZABETH HOOKER, b. Abt. 1877. > > iii. BINDY ANN HOOKER, b. Abt. 1879. > > 3. ISOM/ISHAM B.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born > Abt. > > 1862 in Virginia. He > > married ELIZA ?. She was born Abt. 1861 in > > Virginia. > > Notes for ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > > On 1870 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > Age 10. > > On 1910 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH # 11/11 > > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 48, M, 28, VA, VA, VA > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 49, M, 28, 3, 3, VA, VA, > > VA > > Sam ", Son, M, W, 32, S, VA, VA, VA, Home > Farm > > > > Lucy ". Dau, F, W, 14, S, VA, VA, VA > > On 1920 Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH # 166/166 > > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 59, M, VA, VA, VA > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 63, M, VA, VA, VA > > On 1930, Dan River District, Patrick County, > > Virginia census. > > HH #104/106 > > Isom Hooker, Head, Owns, M, W, 68, M, 18, > Virginia, > > Virginia, Virginia > > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 73, M, 23, Virginia, > > Virginia, Virginia > > More About ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > > Census: April 10, 1930, Dan River District, > Patrick > > Co., VA. > > Occupation: Farmer > > Children of ISOM/ISHAM HOOKER and ELIZA ? are: > > i. SAM3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1878, Virginia. > > ii. LUCY HOOKER, b. Abt. 1896, Virginia. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > test'; "> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Want to start your own business? > Learn how on Yahoo! 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I am just now beginning to have a little time here and there to catch up and digest. As for the Isham who married a Louisa Morris: IshamHooker Gender: Male Estimated birth year: 1861 Age: 18 Race: White Spouse: Louisa Morris Spouse Gender: Female Spouse Estimated Birth Year :1856 Spouse Age: 23 Spouse Race: White Marriage Date: 4 Oct Marriage County: Surry Marriage State: North Carolina Source Vendor: North Carolina State Archives" The info was on ancestry.com's NC Marriage Records. The year of marriage was not listed but would have been 1879. -----Original Message----- From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adella Holly Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 4:46 PM To: hooker@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Samuel HOOKER b. bet. 1824-1828 VA?atten Charlotte andJoyce Louisa could have died young or been using a middle name/another given name on the census. Sharon had posted on Sept 29th, 2006 that Samuel and Lucinda Hooker had a son, Joel, who died at age 28 days in 1855 in Patrick Co.,VA of "bold hives." Other posts on that day by Sharon were of the mother of Jack Hooker's Jesse, Mary Hooker, died at age 92 in 1858 of a fever - informant Jesse Hooker, son. There were 2 other Hooker deaths she posted that day and several land records between 1771-1801 in Patrick Co.,VA listing Robert Hooker (Koger Creek), a Samuel on the Dan River and a Wm Hooker all between those dates in Patrick Co.,VA. Jack is having to answer me at a later date - can anyone remember when his Wm came over the line from NC into VA c early 1800s? Celeste --- Jmw1431@aol.com wrote: > > I couldn't find them either. > > Joyce > > > In a message dated 11/25/2006 5:57:30 P.M. Central > Standard Time, > CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com writes: > > Is this the right Samuel Hooker who is supposed to > be the father of the > Isham Hooker who married Louisa Morris? > I could not find an Isham Hooker with a wife named > Louisa on any census. > I couldn't find this Isham Hooker on the 1880 or > 1900 censuses. > Thanks, > Charlotte > > Descendants of Samuel Hooker > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. SAMUEL1 HOOKER was born Bet. 1824 - 1828 in > Virginia. He married > LUCINDA ?. She was born Abt. 1827 in Virginia. > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and LUCINDA ? are: > i. ELIZABETH2 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1852. > 2. ii. SAMUEL T. HOOKER, b. Abt. > 1856, Virginia. > iii. GABRIEL HOOKER, b. Abt. 1857. > iv. MARY A. HOOKER, b. Abt. 1859. > 3. v. ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER, b. > Abt. 1862, Virginia. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. SAMUEL T.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. > 1856 in Virginia. He > married > MARTHA ?. She was born Abt. 1858 in Virginia. > Children of SAMUEL HOOKER and MARTHA ? are: > i. ELLEN3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1876, Virginia. > ii. ELIZABETH HOOKER, b. Abt. 1877. > iii. BINDY ANN HOOKER, b. Abt. 1879. > 3. ISOM/ISHAM B.2 HOOKER (SAMUEL1) was born Abt. > 1862 in Virginia. He > married ELIZA ?. She was born Abt. 1861 in > Virginia. > Notes for ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > On 1870 Dan River District, Patrick County, > Virginia census. > Age 10. > On 1910 Dan River District, Patrick County, > Virginia census. > HH # 11/11 > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 48, M, 28, VA, VA, VA > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 49, M, 28, 3, 3, VA, VA, > VA > Sam ", Son, M, W, 32, S, VA, VA, VA, Home Farm > > Lucy ". Dau, F, W, 14, S, VA, VA, VA > On 1920 Dan River District, Patrick County, > Virginia census. > HH # 166/166 > Isham Hooker, Head, M, W, 59, M, VA, VA, VA > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 63, M, VA, VA, VA > On 1930, Dan River District, Patrick County, > Virginia census. > HH #104/106 > Isom Hooker, Head, Owns, M, W, 68, M, 18, Virginia, > Virginia, Virginia > Eliza ", Wife, F, W, 73, M, 23, Virginia, > Virginia, Virginia > More About ISOM/ISHAM B. HOOKER: > Census: April 10, 1930, Dan River District, Patrick > Co., VA. > Occupation: Farmer > Children of ISOM/ISHAM HOOKER and ELIZA ? are: > i. SAM3 HOOKER, b. Abt. 1878, Virginia. > ii. LUCY HOOKER, b. Abt. 1896, Virginia. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Joy, I wil certainly keep this info for future reference. Debbie On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:11:45 -0500 "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> writes: > This may help. > > Joy > > 1800 census Greenville Co., SC Ancestry image 82

After seeing a few replies to the early death question among HOOKERs, I decided turn it into a math problem to prove that HOOKERs had a lifespan similar to any other family (in Kentucky anyway). Using the "Kentucky Death Records" database from Ancestry, I copied all the HOOKERs, BLACKBURNs, & REDMONs into an Excel spreadsheet. BLACKBURN & REDMON (my parents surnames) were picked as a control group to compare to the HOOKERs. Again, my objective was to show that HOOKERs were no different than the other surnames. Well, the results did not turn out as I had expected. For BLACKBURN deaths in Kentucky from 1911 to 2000, the average lifespan was 60.7 years For REDMON deaths in Kentucky from 1911 to 2000, the average lifespan was 61.3 years For HOOKER deaths in Kentucky from 1911 to 2000, the average lifespan was 53.5 years Not sure what to attribute this difference to, but it does seem statistically significant. These numbers included all death for each surname (i.e. females who were HOOKERs, BLACKBURNs, & REDMONs by marriage only WERE included). Infants who died at less than age 1 yr were considered to be 1 year old (i.e. babies who died between 1 day and 365 days were all listed as 1 year old). As time allows, I may try a few more surnames to see where other groups fit in. BTW - if anyone wants the KY Death Index HOOKER list, contact me off list and I can send the Excel file or text. Lee Blackburn (my mother-in-law is my connection to HOOKER) Paducah, KY

In a message dated 11/29/2006 12:50:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, rockwood_4@juno.com writes: Hi Charlotte, I find your information pertaining to the health of your HOOKER'S quite interesting. Some of my mothers line has dealt with heart problems, and I had up to this point thought that it came from the WRIGHT'S side rather than the HOOKER'S. My GGrandmother was Nancy Jane Hooker Wright b. 28 April 1857 Randolph Co., ILL, the daughter of George W. Hooker b. 1836 Franklin Co., ILL., his father was William Hooker b. 1802 South Carolina. This is as far back as I have been able to research so far. Thank you for bringing up the heart health. Debbie Hi Debbie, You are welcome. Three of my mom's brothers and her sister had to have open heart surgery, but my mom and her youngest brother didn't have it. My mom probably should have, but she wouldn't go to the doctor very often. Her youngest brother didn't care for doctors either. Charlotte