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    1. Re: [HOOKER] diff Hooker descenants & DNA testing
    2. Try this Linda I just googled rev. thomas hooker books and this came up. For more on the Joseph Hooker line, get in touch with the Hadley, MA historical society, they have a pretty good genealogy of this family. Joyce _http://www.amazon.com/Descendants-Rev-Thomas-Hooker-Connecticut/dp/143269555X _ (http://www.amazon.com/Descendants-Rev-Thomas-Hooker-Connecticut/dp/143269555X) n a message dated 11/30/2007 4:27:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lindalathrop@tds.net writes: Hi Celeste and the rest of the list. Yes I have checked all those places and, for instance, Rootsweb has at least 100 if not 200 Rev. Thomas family trees and each one is just for that specific persons relation to them, if that. Mainly just all repeats of Rev Thomas from England married to Sarah Garabrand. Over and Over. And the book by Edward Hooker that everyone says is so complete is basically just about Rev. Thomas' grandson John's descendants through his father Samuel. Nothing else about any of the other sons' families. I was sent a Joseph Hooker one that was more complete than anything I had seen but it doesn't fit us at all. I'm sure we are from Rev. Thomas but am just trying to fine tune the exact connection. What I find interesting is that my husband is descended directly from Rev. John Lathrop/Lowthrop who founded Barnstable, MA and was very famous just like Rev. Thomas Hooker. That family has a complete book that is done through my husband's grandfather's generation and has every branch in it from every son on down. Seems someone could do that for the Rev.Thomas Hooker line. They are in the process of updating it. People seem to only want to list their own little branch. In my Hooker tree I am listing everyone as much as I can find. I've even started doing the Beardsley family tree for my new second cousin as his mother was a Beardsley. I'm going to be working with the Hooker family DNA testing website and I'd really like to encourage all of you, especially the Southerners who say they are having a real hard time figuring it all out, to have the test done. You get a discount if you do it through the Hooker Project. It finalized it all for me and my brothers and we know positively that we are Hookers by blood now. Why not have a brother, father, uncle, male cousin who has the last name of Hooker take the test. Get a group from your family of the guys and have them done or you different families do it and find out if you are connected. In fact, over half of the men who have done the test so far are from the Southern families. You may never find out and by doing this, the odds are you will find something out. If anyone wants to know more about it, jusgt email me at: linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks, Linda Lathrop nee Hooker ---- Adella Holly <adellaholly@yahoo.com> wrote: ============= Have you Googled Rev Thomas Hooker of MA and searched Genforum,Ancestry, Genealogy,com and Rootsweb.com for him? And Joseph Hooker, the other MA line of whom some went to NY and ultimately to Oregon. Joseph is also originally of MA. The Hartford MA ones are from Rev Thomas Hooker and some of them moved to VT - you mentioned that some of yours were from VT. Have any of theese New Eng guys gotten DNA tests? Since lots is written on them maybe not many need to do this?? Celeste --- lindalathrop@tds.net wrote: > Does anyone know where online I can find a list of > this "other" documented line of Hooker in New > England? > I have googled and searched ship's logs from back in > the 1600's and can't find him. > > Please someone help me out here. > > Our DNA results came back today and my brother's > results matched the second cousin we had discovered > who is a Hooker. > So we are also definitely Hookers. > > Now if I can find out two things: > > 1. What line we are from. > 2. Who is Stephen G. Hooker's parents? Are they > Stephen Hooker b. 1787 and 1789 respectively. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ______________________________________________________________________________ ______ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

    11/30/2007 03:55:08
    1. Re: [HOOKER] diff Hooker descenants & DNA testing
    2. Maureen Girard
    3. Wow. Good prices! I paid about $100 for mine. -----Original Message----- From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jmw1431@aol.com Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:55 PM To: hooker@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOOKER] diff Hooker descenants & DNA testing Try this Linda I just googled rev. thomas hooker books and this came up. For more on the Joseph Hooker line, get in touch with the Hadley, MA historical society, they have a pretty good genealogy of this family. Joyce _http://www.amazon.com/Descendants-Rev-Thomas-Hooker-Connecticut/dp/14326955 5X _ (http://www.amazon.com/Descendants-Rev-Thomas-Hooker-Connecticut/dp/14326955 5X) n a message dated 11/30/2007 4:27:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lindalathrop@tds.net writes: Hi Celeste and the rest of the list. Yes I have checked all those places and, for instance, Rootsweb has at least 100 if not 200 Rev. Thomas family trees and each one is just for that specific persons relation to them, if that. Mainly just all repeats of Rev Thomas from England married to Sarah Garabrand. Over and Over. And the book by Edward Hooker that everyone says is so complete is basically just about Rev. Thomas' grandson John's descendants through his father Samuel. Nothing else about any of the other sons' families. I was sent a Joseph Hooker one that was more complete than anything I had seen but it doesn't fit us at all. I'm sure we are from Rev. Thomas but am just trying to fine tune the exact connection. What I find interesting is that my husband is descended directly from Rev. John Lathrop/Lowthrop who founded Barnstable, MA and was very famous just like Rev. Thomas Hooker. That family has a complete book that is done through my husband's grandfather's generation and has every branch in it from every son on down. Seems someone could do that for the Rev.Thomas Hooker line. They are in the process of updating it. People seem to only want to list their own little branch. In my Hooker tree I am listing everyone as much as I can find. I've even started doing the Beardsley family tree for my new second cousin as his mother was a Beardsley. I'm going to be working with the Hooker family DNA testing website and I'd really like to encourage all of you, especially the Southerners who say they are having a real hard time figuring it all out, to have the test done. You get a discount if you do it through the Hooker Project. It finalized it all for me and my brothers and we know positively that we are Hookers by blood now. Why not have a brother, father, uncle, male cousin who has the last name of Hooker take the test. Get a group from your family of the guys and have them done or you different families do it and find out if you are connected. In fact, over half of the men who have done the test so far are from the Southern families. You may never find out and by doing this, the odds are you will find something out. If anyone wants to know more about it, jusgt email me at: linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks, Linda Lathrop nee Hooker ---- Adella Holly <adellaholly@yahoo.com> wrote: ============= Have you Googled Rev Thomas Hooker of MA and searched Genforum,Ancestry, Genealogy,com and Rootsweb.com for him? And Joseph Hooker, the other MA line of whom some went to NY and ultimately to Oregon. Joseph is also originally of MA. The Hartford MA ones are from Rev Thomas Hooker and some of them moved to VT - you mentioned that some of yours were from VT. Have any of theese New Eng guys gotten DNA tests? Since lots is written on them maybe not many need to do this?? Celeste --- lindalathrop@tds.net wrote: > Does anyone know where online I can find a list of > this "other" documented line of Hooker in New > England? > I have googled and searched ship's logs from back in > the 1600's and can't find him. > > Please someone help me out here. > > Our DNA results came back today and my brother's > results matched the second cousin we had discovered > who is a Hooker. > So we are also definitely Hookers. > > Now if I can find out two things: > > 1. What line we are from. > 2. Who is Stephen G. Hooker's parents? Are they > Stephen Hooker b. 1787 and 1789 respectively. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________ __ ______ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/30/2007 01:04:37
    1. [HOOKER] diff Hooker descenants & DNA testing
    2. Hi Celeste and the rest of the list. Yes I have checked all those places and, for instance, Rootsweb has at least 100 if not 200 Rev. Thomas family trees and each one is just for that specific persons relation to them, if that. Mainly just all repeats of Rev Thomas from England married to Sarah Garabrand. Over and Over. And the book by Edward Hooker that everyone says is so complete is basically just about Rev. Thomas' grandson John's descendants through his father Samuel. Nothing else about any of the other sons' families. I was sent a Joseph Hooker one that was more complete than anything I had seen but it doesn't fit us at all. I'm sure we are from Rev. Thomas but am just trying to fine tune the exact connection. What I find interesting is that my husband is descended directly from Rev. John Lathrop/Lowthrop who founded Barnstable, MA and was very famous just like Rev. Thomas Hooker. That family has a complete book that is done through my husband's grandfather's generation and has every branch in it from every son on down. Seems someone could do that for the Rev.Thomas Hooker line. They are in the process of updating it. People seem to only want to list their own little branch. In my Hooker tree I am listing everyone as much as I can find. I've even started doing the Beardsley family tree for my new second cousin as his mother was a Beardsley. I'm going to be working with the Hooker family DNA testing website and I'd really like to encourage all of you, especially the Southerners who say they are having a real hard time figuring it all out, to have the test done. You get a discount if you do it through the Hooker Project. It finalized it all for me and my brothers and we know positively that we are Hookers by blood now. Why not have a brother, father, uncle, male cousin who has the last name of Hooker take the test. Get a group from your family of the guys and have them done or you different families do it and find out if you are connected. In fact, over half of the men who have done the test so far are from the Southern families. You may never find out and by doing this, the odds are you will find something out. If anyone wants to know more about it, jusgt email me at: linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks, Linda Lathrop nee Hooker ---- Adella Holly <adellaholly@yahoo.com> wrote: ============= Have you Googled Rev Thomas Hooker of MA and searched Genforum,Ancestry, Genealogy,com and Rootsweb.com for him? And Joseph Hooker, the other MA line of whom some went to NY and ultimately to Oregon. Joseph is also originally of MA. The Hartford MA ones are from Rev Thomas Hooker and some of them moved to VT - you mentioned that some of yours were from VT. Have any of theese New Eng guys gotten DNA tests? Since lots is written on them maybe not many need to do this?? Celeste --- lindalathrop@tds.net wrote: > Does anyone know where online I can find a list of > this "other" documented line of Hooker in New > England? > I have googled and searched ship's logs from back in > the 1600's and can't find him. > > Please someone help me out here. > > Our DNA results came back today and my brother's > results matched the second cousin we had discovered > who is a Hooker. > So we are also definitely Hookers. > > Now if I can find out two things: > > 1. What line we are from. > 2. Who is Stephen G. Hooker's parents? Are they > Stephen Hooker b. 1787 and 1789 respectively. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/30/2007 08:26:39
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Attn: Charlotte
    2. Adella Holly
    3. Darrell wrote me that he is still working on this client's info and hopefully can find out more of urs - but he said that the LDS in Salt Lake City has mostly land records. We had some of those posted on this Rootsweb list back when someone posted some early land records of Hookers along the Dan River in Va about a yr ago. Celeste --- CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 11/25/2007 11:15:58 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > adellaholly@yahoo.com writes: > > Great!! Hope someone can access those Patrick > Co.,VA > records soon!! > > I know he often does not have time to do our own > Hooker line!! Due to his work for others. > > Celeste > > > Celeste, > > Yes I hope so too! Yes that is true. > > Charlotte > > > > **************************************Check out > AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/

    11/30/2007 04:58:15
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Attn: Celeste
    2. In a message dated 11/25/2007 11:15:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, adellaholly@yahoo.com writes: Great!! Hope someone can access those Patrick Co.,VA records soon!! I know he often does not have time to do our own Hooker line!! Due to his work for others. Celeste Celeste, Yes I hope so too! Yes that is true. Charlotte **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

    11/30/2007 04:52:07
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Help! Rev Joseph Hooker descenants & DNA results/Atten Linda L
    2. Adella Holly
    3. Have you Googled Rev Thomas Hooker of MA and searched Genforum,Ancestry, Genealogy,com and Rootsweb.com for him? And Joseph Hooker, the other MA line of whom some went to NY and ultimately to Oregon. Joseph is also originally of MA. The Hartford MA ones are from Rev Thomas Hooker and some of them moved to VT - you mentioned that some of yours were from VT. Have any of theese New Eng guys gotten DNA tests? Since lots is written on them maybe not many need to do this?? Celeste --- lindalathrop@tds.net wrote: > Does anyone know where online I can find a list of > this "other" documented line of Hooker in New > England? > I have googled and searched ship's logs from back in > the 1600's and can't find him. > > Please someone help me out here. > > Our DNA results came back today and my brother's > results matched the second cousin we had discovered > who is a Hooker. > So we are also definitely Hookers. > > Now if I can find out two things: > > 1. What line we are from. > 2. Who is Stephen G. Hooker's parents? Are they > Stephen Hooker b. 1787 and 1789 respectively. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    11/30/2007 04:51:46
    1. [HOOKER] Help! Rev Joseph Hooker descenants & DNA results
    2. Does anyone know where online I can find a list of this "other" documented line of Hooker in New England? I have googled and searched ship's logs from back in the 1600's and can't find him. Please someone help me out here. Our DNA results came back today and my brother's results matched the second cousin we had discovered who is a Hooker. So we are also definitely Hookers. Now if I can find out two things: 1. What line we are from. 2. Who is Stephen G. Hooker's parents? Are they Stephen Hooker b. 1787 and 1789 respectively.

    11/29/2007 06:14:53
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Linda and Cahrlotte Atten
    2. Adella Holly
    3. Linda's info did not come through on my list/e-mail inbox. I woudl like to see the info, too. Celeste --- CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com wrote: > Linda, > > Thanks so much for sharing this information. > > Charlotte > > > > **************************************Check out > AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

    11/28/2007 12:47:33
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Atten Linda L.
    2. Adella Holly
    3. Linda did you see his about the Hookers from CT moving to VT?? Celeste --- Maureen Girard <maureen@redshift.com> wrote: > Yes, the CT Hooker line was documented in a 1909 > book by a very thorough > Hooker descendant, Cmdr. Edward Hooker. > > A fairly easy way to tell if you're likely to have > come from that line is to > trace back to the Rev War, if possible, then take a > look at the names of the > "Founding Families" of Hartford. If you have > ancestors with a preponderance > of those surnames at that point in time, then you're > probably from the CT > line. It's not scientific, but it's a pretty good > gauge. > > They were a very tight lot--didn't marry out of the > group much at all, even > after they migrated to VT, etc. > > Maureen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Adella Holly > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:44 PM > To: hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Atten Linda L. and Maureen > > I found an e-mail from you about the finding the > century that someone is connected. There is one site > - > which I cannot find again - where it tells how to > tell > the century by the # by which one is separated. I > think when Tony and Tom first found thisinfo on > their > matches one of them told me, but I also read it on > one of the DNA sites. > > Maureen, I never got the first post you sent to this > list but saw it below on Linda's post. Most CT > Hookers > are from Rev Thomas aren't they. That line is well > documented in books, etc. > > Celeste > > --- Linda Lathrop <linda.lathrop@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Is there a pedigree online anhywhere for Joseph > > Hooker's family? > > > > Does anyone know of one? > > > > Linda Lathrop > > > > > > > > The reason it's mostly southerners that query on > the > > list is because the > > northern families are very well documented. The > > family that went to IL and then > > to WA is the family of Joseph Hooker. The Hartford > > family is that of Rev. > > Thomas Hooker. Both of these families are well > > documented. The southern > > Hookers on the other hand, with the exception of > the > > William Hooker family of > > VA/NC, is less documented. Seems like we get to VA > > and hit a brick wall. Just > > thought I'd add my two cents worth. > > > > Joyce > > > > > > In a message dated 11/24/2007 12:36:46 P.M. > Eastern > > Standard Time, > > maureen@redshift.com writes: > > > > Like Linda, I have "northern" Hookers and would be > > interested if any are on > > this list. From the 1630s to the later 19th > century, > > My Hooker-connected > > names are those of Hartford's founding families. > > > > Does anyone share these lines? > > > > Maureen > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > > Behalf Of lindalathrop@tds.net > > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:01 AM > > To: Hooker@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [HOOKER] some questions > > > > I was a member of this forum and the mailing list > > but somehow have stopped > > getting posts/emails. > > > > If I only post to the email list, do those emails > > show up on the forum board > > here? > > > > Also, it seems that most of the questions and > > discussion on this forum and > > the list are for the "Southern" Hookers and not > the > > "Northern" Hookers who > > settled in VT, CT, NY and then spread out to IL, > IN, > > MI. > > > > I am wondering if perhaps there should be two > > groups...one for each since > > they seem so separate. > > > > I also have Norton, Nash, Preston, Wadsworth, > > Beardsley,Graves, Gardner, > > Goss, Carver Gates surnames in my Hooker line. > > > > I had listed before that my brother has done the > > Hooker DNA test and we are > > close to getting the DNA results for our second > > cousin who is an 80 year old > > Hooker. Results are posted at WorldNetFamilies and > > FamilyTreeDNA. > > > > Linda Lathrop nee Farrell now Hooker > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the > > body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **************************************Check out > > AOL's list of 2007's hottest > > products. > > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > test'; "> > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. > Make Yahoo! your homepage. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > === message truncated === test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! 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    11/28/2007 11:16:11
    1. Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary(Farr) Hooker
    2. Linda, Thanks so much for sharing this information. Charlotte **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

    11/28/2007 07:35:25
    1. Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary (Farr) Hooker
    2. In a message dated 11/27/2007 10:29:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lindalathrop@tds.net writes: After I sent my last email, I spent several hours doing research and have come up with some new info on Daniel Hooker's parents, Jacob and Mary Farr Hooker. I don't know if it is known or not but it is news to me. If anyone is interested, let me know. Linda Lathrop nee Hooker Linda, Can you please send it to the list so we all will be able to see it? Thanks, Charlotte **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

    11/28/2007 07:34:33
    1. Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary(Farr) Hooker
    2. Linda Lathrop
    3. Hi Charlotte, I did send it. Didn't you get it? I even sent the website addresses. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: CharlotteAnneMlr@aol.com To: hooker@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary(Farr) Hooker In a message dated 11/27/2007 10:29:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, lindalathrop@tds.net writes: After I sent my last email, I spent several hours doing research and have come up with some new info on Daniel Hooker's parents, Jacob and Mary Farr Hooker. I don't know if it is known or not but it is news to me. If anyone is interested, let me know. Linda Lathrop nee Hooker Linda, Can you please send it to the list so we all will be able to see it? Thanks, Charlotte **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    11/28/2007 05:53:35
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Atten Linda L. and Maureen
    2. Maureen Girard
    3. Yes, the CT Hooker line was documented in a 1909 book by a very thorough Hooker descendant, Cmdr. Edward Hooker. A fairly easy way to tell if you're likely to have come from that line is to trace back to the Rev War, if possible, then take a look at the names of the "Founding Families" of Hartford. If you have ancestors with a preponderance of those surnames at that point in time, then you're probably from the CT line. It's not scientific, but it's a pretty good gauge. They were a very tight lot--didn't marry out of the group much at all, even after they migrated to VT, etc. Maureen -----Original Message----- From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Adella Holly Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:44 PM To: hooker@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HOOKER] Atten Linda L. and Maureen I found an e-mail from you about the finding the century that someone is connected. There is one site - which I cannot find again - where it tells how to tell the century by the # by which one is separated. I think when Tony and Tom first found thisinfo on their matches one of them told me, but I also read it on one of the DNA sites. Maureen, I never got the first post you sent to this list but saw it below on Linda's post. Most CT Hookers are from Rev Thomas aren't they. That line is well documented in books, etc. Celeste --- Linda Lathrop <linda.lathrop@yahoo.com> wrote: > Is there a pedigree online anhywhere for Joseph > Hooker's family? > > Does anyone know of one? > > Linda Lathrop > > > > The reason it's mostly southerners that query on the > list is because the > northern families are very well documented. The > family that went to IL and then > to WA is the family of Joseph Hooker. The Hartford > family is that of Rev. > Thomas Hooker. Both of these families are well > documented. The southern > Hookers on the other hand, with the exception of the > William Hooker family of > VA/NC, is less documented. Seems like we get to VA > and hit a brick wall. Just > thought I'd add my two cents worth. > > Joyce > > > In a message dated 11/24/2007 12:36:46 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > maureen@redshift.com writes: > > Like Linda, I have "northern" Hookers and would be > interested if any are on > this list. From the 1630s to the later 19th century, > My Hooker-connected > names are those of Hartford's founding families. > > Does anyone share these lines? > > Maureen > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of lindalathrop@tds.net > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:01 AM > To: Hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HOOKER] some questions > > I was a member of this forum and the mailing list > but somehow have stopped > getting posts/emails. > > If I only post to the email list, do those emails > show up on the forum board > here? > > Also, it seems that most of the questions and > discussion on this forum and > the list are for the "Southern" Hookers and not the > "Northern" Hookers who > settled in VT, CT, NY and then spread out to IL, IN, > MI. > > I am wondering if perhaps there should be two > groups...one for each since > they seem so separate. > > I also have Norton, Nash, Preston, Wadsworth, > Beardsley,Graves, Gardner, > Goss, Carver Gates surnames in my Hooker line. > > I had listed before that my brother has done the > Hooker DNA test and we are > close to getting the DNA results for our second > cousin who is an 80 year old > Hooker. Results are posted at WorldNetFamilies and > FamilyTreeDNA. > > Linda Lathrop nee Farrell now Hooker > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the > body of the message > > > > > > > > **************************************Check out > AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. 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    11/27/2007 02:13:06
    1. Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary(Farr) Hooker
    2. Linda Lathrop
    3. Hi Adella, First, yes, I have my brother's DNA results listed through FamilyTreeDNA at worldfamilies.net/surnames/h/hooker/ in the Hooker DNA Project. He doesn't match any of them. But they all seem to be Southern Hookers. I think we may be another line but am still trying to figure that out. We are also waiting for our second cousin's results to come in to see if we match for sure with him. The haplogroup that my brother's DNA came up under is J2 while most of the Southern Hookers are R1b1 or a variation of that. Ours also shows quite a bit of Ashkenazi Jewish background which was a big surprise for us. They were mainly from Prussia, Germany, England, Poland, etc. I also put his DNA results in a J Haplogroup database and he matches pretty close to some people there but they are all listed by code names. Ok, as to Daniel Hooker's parents... This site explains it all under THE Mary Farr who has been said to be the one married to Jacob Hooker. I am going to give the URL here plus cut and paste what it says. Apparently Mary Farr and Jacob Hooker are the wrong ones. His parents are Mary Farr and Jacob Hooker but they are not as old as the two others are. AND the correct Mary Farr didn't have the same parents. Her parents are a different Stephen Farr (again born later) and a Sarah Bennett...not Mary Taylor. But this will explain it better. Citation Detail: Ancestors of Winslow Farr Sr. and Olive Hovey Freeman Date: 23 Nov 2006 Notes: Apparently, the wrong Mary Farr has been listed as the one who married Jacob Hooker. Actual text: Mary FARR was born on 4 May 1686 in Billerica, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA.162 She died on 23 Jun 1748 in Littleton, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA.607 The IGI and many other sources, incorrectly have this Mary Farr as the wife of Jacob Hooker. Sinnett in his book, "The Farr Genealogy", uses a Middlesex County, Massachusetts's land deed, dated 1766, incorrectly to support her as the wife of Jacob Hooker. Using the dates from the land deeds, this Stephen Farr would have to be about 125 years old. However, there could be a Jacob Hooker from an earlier time that could be confusing the matter. Mary, that married Jacob Hooker, would be the daughter of Stephen Farr b. abt 1710 and Sarah Bennett b. 1708/9. Mary Farr (the wrong one) probably married abt 1712, Samuel Corey b. 20 Sep 1691 Chelmsford, Middlesex, Massachusetts. They had the following children: Samuel b. 25 Feb 1714/15, Samuel b. 30 Aug 1717, Mary b. 2 Apr 1720, Stephen b. 25 Mar 1723, Elizabeth b. 13 Feb 1725, and Oliver b. 21 Aug 1729. Samuel Corey was appointed guardian of John Farr's children in 1724. Record of Mary being a child in this family found in Concord Reg. births, marriages and deaths of Middlesex County reference # US/CAN 974.44/C4 v2c. Mary's Headstone Inscription: Mary Corey, the wife of Left Samuel Corey Desest the 28th day of June 1748 aged aboute 62 years Parents: Stephen FARR and Mary TAYLOR. Spouse: Samuel COREY and Mary FARR were married about 1712 of Stow, Middlesex, Massachusetts, USA. Web address: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2806/index4.htm This is the actual page for Mary Farr (there are quite a few of them). She was the one that was believed to be Daniel's mother but is not. It repeats the above. Everything is sourced very well. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/2806/b18.htm#P141 And, as to Daniel, I found a copy of the original birth records for Littleton, MA that show him being born there. So I am trying to find more info on this newer Mary Farr and her mother Sarah Bennett. I did find the newer Stephen Farr who was born in 1710 and a bit of info on Sarah. Linda Lathrop ----- Original Message ----- From: Adella Holly To: hooker@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary(Farr) Hooker Yes, please share what you found. Did you go to the site that you posted yor brother's DNA on to look at those other Hooker popsts? . Is the Chinese marker your brother had a possible Native American marker?? Celeste --- Linda Lathrop <lindalathrop@tds.net> wrote: > After I sent my last email, I spent several hours > doing research and have come up > with some new info on Daniel Hooker's parents, Jacob > and Mary Farr Hooker. > I don't know if it is known or not but it is news to > me. > > If anyone is interested, let me know. > > Linda Lathrop nee Hooker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. 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    11/27/2007 01:59:49
    1. Re: [HOOKER] Atten Linda L. and Maureen
    2. Adella Holly
    3. I found an e-mail from you about the finding the century that someone is connected. There is one site - which I cannot find again - where it tells how to tell the century by the # by which one is separated. I think when Tony and Tom first found thisinfo on their matches one of them told me, but I also read it on one of the DNA sites. Maureen, I never got the first post you sent to this list but saw it below on Linda's post. Most CT Hookers are from Rev Thomas aren't they. That line is well documented in books, etc. Celeste --- Linda Lathrop <linda.lathrop@yahoo.com> wrote: > Is there a pedigree online anhywhere for Joseph > Hooker's family? > > Does anyone know of one? > > Linda Lathrop > > > > The reason it's mostly southerners that query on the > list is because the > northern families are very well documented. The > family that went to IL and then > to WA is the family of Joseph Hooker. The Hartford > family is that of Rev. > Thomas Hooker. Both of these families are well > documented. The southern > Hookers on the other hand, with the exception of the > William Hooker family of > VA/NC, is less documented. Seems like we get to VA > and hit a brick wall. Just > thought I'd add my two cents worth. > > Joyce > > > In a message dated 11/24/2007 12:36:46 P.M. Eastern > Standard Time, > maureen@redshift.com writes: > > Like Linda, I have "northern" Hookers and would be > interested if any are on > this list. From the 1630s to the later 19th century, > My Hooker-connected > names are those of Hartford's founding families. > > Does anyone share these lines? > > Maureen > > -----Original Message----- > From: hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:hooker-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of lindalathrop@tds.net > Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 6:01 AM > To: Hooker@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HOOKER] some questions > > I was a member of this forum and the mailing list > but somehow have stopped > getting posts/emails. > > If I only post to the email list, do those emails > show up on the forum board > here? > > Also, it seems that most of the questions and > discussion on this forum and > the list are for the "Southern" Hookers and not the > "Northern" Hookers who > settled in VT, CT, NY and then spread out to IL, IN, > MI. > > I am wondering if perhaps there should be two > groups...one for each since > they seem so separate. > > I also have Norton, Nash, Preston, Wadsworth, > Beardsley,Graves, Gardner, > Goss, Carver Gates surnames in my Hooker line. > > I had listed before that my brother has done the > Hooker DNA test and we are > close to getting the DNA results for our second > cousin who is an 80 year old > Hooker. Results are posted at WorldNetFamilies and > FamilyTreeDNA. > > Linda Lathrop nee Farrell now Hooker > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the > body of the message > > > > > > > > **************************************Check out > AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs

    11/27/2007 01:44:04
    1. Re: [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary (Farr) Hooker
    2. Adella Holly
    3. Yes, please share what you found. Did you go to the site that you posted yor brother's DNA on to look at those other Hooker popsts? . Is the Chinese marker your brother had a possible Native American marker?? Celeste --- Linda Lathrop <lindalathrop@tds.net> wrote: > After I sent my last email, I spent several hours > doing research and have come up > with some new info on Daniel Hooker's parents, Jacob > and Mary Farr Hooker. > I don't know if it is known or not but it is news to > me. > > If anyone is interested, let me know. > > Linda Lathrop nee Hooker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to HOOKER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > test'; "> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/sports;_ylt=At9_qDKvtAbMuh1G1SQtBI7ntAcJ

    11/27/2007 01:10:52
    1. [HOOKER] new info on Daniel Hooker's parents Jacob and Mary (Farr) Hooker
    2. Linda Lathrop
    3. After I sent my last email, I spent several hours doing research and have come up with some new info on Daniel Hooker's parents, Jacob and Mary Farr Hooker. I don't know if it is known or not but it is news to me. If anyone is interested, let me know. Linda Lathrop nee Hooker

    11/27/2007 12:28:35
    1. [HOOKER] Anyone from Daniel & Mary (Gates) Hooker's line?
    2. As I have said in previous posts I believe that my Hooker line, up to this point, goes to Daniel and Mary (Gates) Hooker through their son Stephen . All the records I have seen online show Daniel's father as Jacob Hooker born in Stow MA. I am the Linda who started out looking for Stephen G. Hooker, b. VT in 1824, married to Helen N. Norton and moved to Chicago, IL. My grandfather changed his name from Hooker to Farrell and never told his son, my father, or the rest of his "new" family. My brother and I have traced us back to Stephen G. Hooker and even have contacted our second cousin 1x removed who is almost 80. My brother has had his DNA results done and we are waiting for our cousin's to be done soon. So we want to figure out the Daniel Hooker mystery. I know that there is a big difference in opinion for Daniel Hooker. Some say he is from Germany himself. Some say he is from Littleton, Middlesex County, Mass. This has gone on apparently for a long time. I'd like to know if anyone has any answers or thoughts on this or how to solve this mystery. If Daniel's father is Jacob who was born in Stow, Mass; then how can he be from Germany himself? If Jacog isn't his father, then who is? I think all records I have seen and family trees online that are of this line, show Jacob as being Daniel's father. Some even say that a Matthew is Jacob's father. Perhaps this Matthew is from Germany? I would just like to discuss this with others who are also stuck at this block wall and see if someone has solved it or if we can figure it out together. I would even be willing to start an email list at RootsWeb or Yahoo for those interested to use so we would not take time from others. I hope to hear from the ladies I have heard from before who I bcc'd this email to. My personal email is linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks very much. Linda Lathrop

    11/26/2007 09:14:32
    1. [HOOKER] Anyone from David & Mary (Gates) Hooker's line?
    2. Linda Lathrop
    3. As I have said in previous posts I believe that my Hooker line, up to this point, goes to Daniel and Mary (Gates) Hooker through their son Stephen . All the records I have seen online show Daniel's father as Jacob Hooker born in Stow MA. I am the Linda who started out looking for Stephen G. Hooker, b. VT in 1824, married to Helen N. Norton and moved to Chicago, IL. My grandfather changed his name from Hooker to Farrell and never told his son, my father, or the rest of his "new" family. My brother and I have traced us back to Stephen G. Hooker and even have contacted our second cousin 1x removed who is almost 80. My brother has had his DNA results done and we are waiting for our cousin's to be done soon. So we want to figure out the Daniel Hooker mystery. I know that there is a big difference in opinion for Daniel Hooker. Some say he is from Germany himself. Some say he is from Littleton, Middlesex County, Mass. This has gone on apparently for a long time. I'd like to know if anyone has any answers or thoughts on this or how to solve this mystery. If Daniel's father is Jacob who was born in Stow, Mass; then how can he be from Germany himself? If Jacog isn't his father, then who is? I think all records I have seen and family trees online that are of this line, show Jacob as being Daniel's father. Some even say that a Matthew is Jacob's father. Perhaps this Matthew is from Germany? I would just like to discuss this with others who are also stuck at this block wall and see if someone has solved it or if we can figure it out together. I would even be willing to start an email list at RootsWeb or Yahoo for those interested to use so we would not take time from others. I hope to hear from the ladies I have heard from before who I bcc'd this email to. My personal email is linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks very much. Linda Lathrop

    11/26/2007 07:11:56
    1. [HOOKER] anyone from Daniel & Mary (Gates) Hooker line?
    2. Linda Lathrop
    3. As I have said in previous posts I believe that my Hooker line, up to this point, goes to Daniel and Mary (Gates) Hooker through their son Stephen . All the records I have seen online show Daniel's father as Jacob Hooker born in Stow MA. I am the Linda who started out looking for Stephen G. Hooker, b. VT in 1824, married to Helen N. Norton and moved to Chicago, IL. My grandfather changed his name from Hooker to Farrell and never told his son, my father, or the rest of his "new" family. My brother and I have traced us back to Stephen G. Hooker and even have contacted our second cousin 1x removed who is almost 80. My brother has had his DNA results done and we are waiting for our cousin's to be done soon. So we want to figure out the Daniel Hooker mystery. I know that there is a big difference in opinion for Daniel Hooker. Some say he is from Germany himself. Some say he is from Littleton, Middlesex County, Mass. This has gone on apparently for a long time. I'd like to know if anyone has any answers or thoughts on this or how to solve this mystery. If Daniel's father is Jacob who was born in Stow, Mass; then how can he be from Germany himself? If Jacog isn't his father, then who is? I think all records I have seen and family trees online that are of this line, show Jacob as being Daniel's father. Some even say that a Matthew is Jacob's father. Perhaps this Matthew is from Germany? I would just like to discuss this with others who are also stuck at this block wall and see if someone has solved it or if we can figure it out together. I would even be willing to start an email list at RootsWeb or Yahoo for those interested to use so we would not take time from others. I hope to hear from the ladies I have heard from before who I bcc'd this email to. My personal email is linda.lathrop@yahoo.com Thanks very much. Linda Lathrop nee Hooker

    11/26/2007 06:08:20