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    1. [HONG-KONG] How a web page can help with Research
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. I just did a piece on my blog about how a maintaining a web page can help with genealogy research, be fun, and only be a little bit overwhelming (when it comes to the work of keeping it up). SEE: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/05/my-web-feet-quack-quack.html Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

    05/19/2011 09:19:48
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials
    2. Mac and Rita MacDonald
    3. Dear Liz, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my query - as you say, keep digging and the answer might come up! Would love to take a memory trip to Hongkong, but age precludes this choice! Hope you are keeping well, Kindest regards Rita MacDonad -----Original Message----- From: hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Sent: Tuesday, 10 May 2011 11:14 p.m. To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials Dear Rita I'm sorry, I can't help you. You will have to just keep researching and dig away, eventually something will turn up as new sources become available on the internet, it will make searching easier and easier. Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/11/2011 02:23:56
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials
    2. Liz
    3. Dear Rita I'm sorry, I can't help you. You will have to just keep researching and dig away, eventually something will turn up as new sources become available on the internet, it will make searching easier and easier. Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.

    05/10/2011 06:14:21
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials
    2. Mac and Rita MacDonald
    3. Dear Liz what an amazing website - was thrilled which I was thrilled to receive this morning! I am still endeavouring to find what happened to my grandmother Lily Morris' remains who died on 8th January 1949 at her daughter's residence 562 The Peak. There is no sign at all of the disposal of her body - neither a burial nor a cremation, and feel more than frustrated! Patricia Lim has endeavoured to find some info for me with little success. How can a body just disappear? Any thoughts? Regards Rita MacDonald nee Langston -----Original Message----- From: hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liz Sent: Friday, 6 May 2011 4:05 a.m. To: HONG-KONG@rootsweb.com; india@rootsweb.com; india-british-raj@rootsweb.com Subject: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials Dear list, I thought you might be interested to know of a new resource that has just been launched and we are very lucky that it is completely free on a Hong Kong history website. They say: "The database was compiled as part of Patricia Lim's research for her recent book. She has generously agreed to make it publicly available, and to let us publish a copy here on www.gwulo.com." Patricia has produced a book 'Forgotten Souls: A Social History of the Hong Kong Cemetery'. It's not about the cemetery though, instead it looks at the lives of the people buried there. Here's a sample of sections chapter headings to give a flavour: Section II: The Early Denizens of the Hong Kong Cemetery, 1845-1860 4: Merchants, Clerks and Bankers 5: Servants of the Crown 6: Professionals 7: The Merchant Navy 8: Tradesmen, Artisans and Small-Scale Businessmen 9: Beachcombers and the Destitute 10: Missionaries 11: The Americans 12: The Armed Forces 13: Women and Children 14: The Chinese and Their Position in Relation to the Europeans However, the database gives the complete listing of those buried at the Hong Kong Protestant cemetery (which is somewhere in the region of 6000+ graves), along with inscriptions and plot numbers. The database itself is still very much being developed, but you can search for names here using this link http://gwulo.com/node/8738. Make a note of the plot number, then look up the plot to find the inscription here: Inscriptions for cemetery sections 01-09 http://gwulo.com/node/8739 Inscriptions for cemetery sections 10-16 http://gwulo.com/node/8740 Inscriptions for cemetery sections 17-47 http://gwulo.com/node/8741 I do hope this helps some of you. I am not connected in anyway with the research or the book. Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/06/2011 10:50:21
    1. [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials
    2. Liz
    3. Dear list, I thought you might be interested to know of a new resource that has just been launched and we are very lucky that it is completely free on a Hong Kong history website. They say: "The database was compiled as part of Patricia Lim's research for her recent book. She has generously agreed to make it publicly available, and to let us publish a copy here on www.gwulo.com." Patricia has produced a book 'Forgotten Souls: A Social History of the Hong Kong Cemetery'. It's not about the cemetery though, instead it looks at the lives of the people buried there. Here's a sample of sections chapter headings to give a flavour: Section II: The Early Denizens of the Hong Kong Cemetery, 1845-1860 4: Merchants, Clerks and Bankers 5: Servants of the Crown 6: Professionals 7: The Merchant Navy 8: Tradesmen, Artisans and Small-Scale Businessmen 9: Beachcombers and the Destitute 10: Missionaries 11: The Americans 12: The Armed Forces 13: Women and Children 14: The Chinese and Their Position in Relation to the Europeans However, the database gives the complete listing of those buried at the Hong Kong Protestant cemetery (which is somewhere in the region of 6000+ graves), along with inscriptions and plot numbers. The database itself is still very much being developed, but you can search for names here using this link http://gwulo.com/node/8738. Make a note of the plot number, then look up the plot to find the inscription here: Inscriptions for cemetery sections 01-09 http://gwulo.com/node/8739 Inscriptions for cemetery sections 10-16 http://gwulo.com/node/8740 Inscriptions for cemetery sections 17-47 http://gwulo.com/node/8741 I do hope this helps some of you. I am not connected in anyway with the research or the book. Best wishes Liz Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.

    05/05/2011 11:05:16
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New Resource: Hong Kong Cemetery FREE database of burials
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. Liz, Thanks for this. I have just ordered a copy of the book. Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

    05/05/2011 07:24:20
    1. [HONG-KONG] A blog posting
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. I have just quickly cobbled together a posting on my blog about the first woman driver in Singapore. She is related by marriage to the Dares and Jacksons of Hong Kong. You can access it by using the hyperlink for BLOG on my web site and then clicking on the blog titled "Sometimes a Picture". Sorry about the cumbersome way to access it, but until I find a way around the various filters that seem to be necesary these days, this is the way it is. Enjoy, Sharon -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

    04/07/2011 09:03:14
    1. [HONG-KONG] A new family tree posted
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. The new spam filters are complicating life for me. It seems that if I put certain links into an email, then my emails have only something like a 50/50 chance of arriving. I don't know why, but this is how it is. Maybe it is because I live in The Gumboot Nation aka Roberts Creek. Unfortunately, it means that in the future, if you want to get to my blogs, then I have to send you there via my web page. The link for that is beneath. It seems that the spam filters don't have a hernia over that one. I have just posted a piece on my blog called "The Tip of the Iceberg". In it, I talk about some of what I have learned in my decade of doing this research. I also have a link to the latest piece of research that I have posted on my web site earlier today. The piece that I have just posted contains a great swat of the relationships between dozens of family members who found themselves in Hong Kong, South Africa, Ceylon, India and what have you in the 19^th century. Most of them came from England, some from Ireland and Scotland, and some managed to boggle me by arranging their lives such that they came from all three (ARBUTHNOT would be a good example). I have also posted another obituary that is quite lengthy and descriptive for George Mildmay DARE. As always, I have annotated it so it is less confusing about who is who. I have also posted the notes he wrote about his family before he died in 1907, similarly annotated by The Moi. The links to these two piece can be found at the end of my blog. Enjoy, Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: www.thesilverbowl.com

    04/05/2011 11:23:05
    1. [HONG-KONG] Late 1800s - Irish in Hong Kong
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. It cheers me no end to see one of our female ancestors in the late 1800s, skirts billowing in the wind, perched at the nether reaches of the mizzenmast. This is one of several pictures that I have referenced in my latest blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/02/1898-avast-mast.html These people settled in Hong Kong in the mid-1800s, coming from Co. Armagh, Co. Louth, Co. Monaghan - and elsewhere in Ireland. Enjoy - and if there are others who you can identify - or tell me more about - then, as always, I am all ears. Sharon -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

    02/26/2011 01:34:47
    1. [HONG-KONG] Sandra,
    2. Ray and Jamie Gavan
    3. Thank you for the information, I have sent an email to Tony asking him for any information on John "Len" Collins my late father in law. Regards and thanks again Ray Sydney

    02/16/2011 12:59:54
    1. [HONG-KONG] Hong Kong prision camp.
    2. Shyama Peebles
    3. Ray - can you post up or send me his name & what work he did in HK that will give us a better idea of what camp he was in People that worked in the banks were treated differently to others & if in the HK Defence Force as were a lot of civilians- a different camp Mostly general civilians were held in Stanley Camp Was he single or married at the time? Best Wishes Shyama Peebles Hong Kong On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 3:32 AM, Ray and Jamie Gavan <Jgavan@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > My father in law who was a British citizen living in Hong Kong and who is > now deceased was interned by the Japanese during the war, as I am writing > his family history I would like to find out more on where the camp was and > the duration of their internment if fact any information that relates to > that camp, any help greatly appreciated. > > > > Ray > > > > Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/15/2011 06:53:27
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] Hong Kong prision camp.
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. This is a great resource: http://www.hongkongwardiary.com/searchgarrison.html Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

    02/15/2011 12:49:36
    1. [HONG-KONG] Hong Kong prision camp.
    2. Ray and Jamie Gavan
    3. My father in law who was a British citizen living in Hong Kong and who is now deceased was interned by the Japanese during the war, as I am writing his family history I would like to find out more on where the camp was and the duration of their internment if fact any information that relates to that camp, any help greatly appreciated. Ray Sydney

    02/14/2011 11:32:21
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] Hong Kong prision camp.
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. There are several memoirs - I do not recall titles. It would be worth searching on the internet for Hong Kong prisoner memoirs - then getting them through a library or bookstore or on-line. Sharon Oddie Brown Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 14/02/2011 11:32 AM, Ray and Jamie Gavan wrote: > My father in law who was a British citizen living in Hong Kong and who is > now deceased was interned by the Japanese during the war, as I am writing > his family history I would like to find out more on where the camp was and > the duration of their internment if fact any information that relates to > that camp, any help greatly appreciated. > > > > Ray > > > > Sydney > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/14/2011 04:58:48
    1. [HONG-KONG] Herbert Ben Bridger
    2. Cailean O'Cadhla
    3. Liz; Following Rita's comment that it is a small world, I have Ben Bridger papers from when he was installed as Master of Lodge St. John, Victoria, No.618. It apparently required the signatures of three installed Masters, one of them was C.S? Chater, Master of Lodge 1165. I say C.S?, because the signature is difficult to read. Colin.

    02/13/2011 01:13:47
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2
    2. Rita MacDonald
    3. Hi Colin, was most interested to learn that your gt. grandfather arrived in HK in 1890 & worked for HK Light and Power for 32 years. This would be the forerunner of the HK Electric Co. at North Point?? My father, Arthur Langston joined the HKE as a young man and returned to the UK fight in WW1, following which he returned for duty to HK. He was the first post Japanese War manager taking on the arduous job of putting the company back on its feet. Anyway, the two persons would have known each other if this was the case. What an amazingly small world it is... Best Wishes Rita -----Original Message----- From: hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:hong-kong-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cailean O'Cadhla Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2011 3:55 a.m. To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [HONG-KONG] HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 Hi guys; I have been waiting for some life in this list as well. My Great-Grandfather arrived in Hong Kong in 1890 and worked for Hong Kong Light and Power for 32 years. He was an Engineer, later Chief Engineer at the Wanchai power plant. He was also an active mason and was Deputy-Master for South China (relying on my memory here), before he departed China for Canada. His name was Herbert Benjamin Bridger, or Ben Bridger. Sharon, I look forward to further entries on your blog. Colin. > From: hong-kong-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:00:12 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New to this list (Sharon Oddie Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 07:38:00 -0800 > From: Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > Subject: Re: [HONG-KONG] New to this list > To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D5011D8.3020209@dccnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Thanks Liz. If you can tell me which photo he is in, and where, then I > can add that description into it. I expect to post some more old > pictures in the next few days. > Sharon > Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: > http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: > http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: > http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > On 06/02/2011 10:40 PM, Liz wrote: > > Hello Sharon, > > > > How nice to see you here! You may not remember but we corresponded a > > few years back? Anyway, I have seen your great blog on the Sir > > Thomas Jackson statue, lovely photographs and so rare! I even > > spotted Sir Paul Chater in them! Yes, this is a quiet list, but occasionally questions pop up. > > > > Hope you are well. > > > > Best wishes > > Liz Chater > > Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? > > Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the HONG-KONG list administrator, send an email to > HONG-KONG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the HONG-KONG mailing list, send an email to HONG-KONG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > *************************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/10/2011 10:58:52
    1. [HONG-KONG] Old Hong Kong
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. Yesterday, I posted a blog that has links to a page of Old Hong Kong photos as well five pages of stuff I wrote about Irish connected people who lived in them. S:: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/2011/02/in-defence-of-not-knowing.html The links are near the bottom of the post. If you have anything to add about the places, I would love to learn more. Sharon Oddie Brown -- Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl

    02/10/2011 12:07:36
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2
    2. Cailean O'Cadhla
    3. Hi guys; I have been waiting for some life in this list as well. My Great-Grandfather arrived in Hong Kong in 1890 and worked for Hong Kong Light and Power for 32 years. He was an Engineer, later Chief Engineer at the Wanchai power plant. He was also an active mason and was Deputy-Master for South China (relying on my memory here), before he departed China for Canada. His name was Herbert Benjamin Bridger, or Ben Bridger. Sharon, I look forward to further entries on your blog. Colin. > From: hong-kong-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 01:00:12 -0700 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: New to this list (Sharon Oddie Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 07:38:00 -0800 > From: Sharon Oddie Brown <s.brown@dccnet.com> > Subject: Re: [HONG-KONG] New to this list > To: hong-kong@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4D5011D8.3020209@dccnet.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Thanks Liz. If you can tell me which photo he is in, and where, then I > can add that description into it. I expect to post some more old > pictures in the next few days. > Sharon > Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: > http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: > http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: > http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl > > On 06/02/2011 10:40 PM, Liz wrote: > > Hello Sharon, > > > > How nice to see you here! You may not remember but we corresponded a few > > years back? Anyway, I have seen your great blog on the Sir Thomas Jackson > > statue, lovely photographs and so rare! I even spotted Sir Paul Chater in > > them! Yes, this is a quiet list, but occasionally questions pop up. > > > > Hope you are well. > > > > Best wishes > > Liz Chater > > Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? > > Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the HONG-KONG list administrator, send an email to > HONG-KONG-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the HONG-KONG mailing list, send an email to HONG-KONG@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of HONG-KONG Digest, Vol 6, Issue 2 > ***************************************

    02/09/2011 03:54:57
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New to this list
    2. Sharon Oddie Brown
    3. Thanks Liz. If you can tell me which photo he is in, and where, then I can add that description into it. I expect to post some more old pictures in the next few days. Sharon Sharon Oddie Brown, Roberts Creek, BC, Canada. History Project: http://www.thesilverbowl.com/ Blog: http://sharonoddiebrown.blogspot.com/ Some Become Flowers: http://www.harbourpublishing.com/title/SomeBecomeFlowers Family Tree: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=silverbowl On 06/02/2011 10:40 PM, Liz wrote: > Hello Sharon, > > How nice to see you here! You may not remember but we corresponded a few > years back? Anyway, I have seen your great blog on the Sir Thomas Jackson > statue, lovely photographs and so rare! I even spotted Sir Paul Chater in > them! Yes, this is a quiet list, but occasionally questions pop up. > > Hope you are well. > > Best wishes > Liz Chater > Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? > Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HONG-KONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    02/07/2011 12:38:00
    1. Re: [HONG-KONG] New to this list
    2. Liz
    3. Hello Sharon, How nice to see you here! You may not remember but we corresponded a few years back? Anyway, I have seen your great blog on the Sir Thomas Jackson statue, lovely photographs and so rare! I even spotted Sir Paul Chater in them! Yes, this is a quiet list, but occasionally questions pop up. Hope you are well. Best wishes Liz Chater Researching Chater or Armenians in India and Hong Kong in 2011? Please go to www.chater-genealogy.com.

    02/06/2011 11:40:27