Bob John Holt, John Rice HOLT, and Saunders were very prominent men in early Bedford County Va Civil and Military duties. The town of Liberty is now Bedford City, Bedford County  had a Mt Pass (now Roanoke County) funneling people West, and South into Carolina's. The Bedford Va HOLT family lived just about a mile of County line of Campbell, on Rocky Mt Turnpike. It hard to imagine now but this part of Va was frontier then. My HOLT'S were in Northern Ala early 1800s (Samuel HOLT 1800-1843), John E Holt's son said father born in SC on a Census.  Bob, I would certainly think these Northern Ala HOLT'S were kin to Bedford County of Va and my Samuel HOLT. I don't want to start another "War" on German/English HOLTS, but Bedford County was mostly Scotch/Irish people. This caused problems as Scotch were moneyed Tories loyal to King of England. Irish were extremely Revolutionary as they didn't have much to lose. I had kin on both sides, only one was a Tory.  Bedford County had Revolutionary War Soldiers in the Carolina's. Those old Virginian Soldier boys probably met their sweeties, cheaper land and  warmer weather could been reasons why they moved. Below are some Bedford County Va HOLT marriages. Gerald Preas Oct. 18, 1784; Joseph Holt & Susannah Saunders, dt Elizabeth; Benjamin Rice, Surety. Dec. 28, 1785; William Holt & Lucy Saunders, dt Elizabeth; David Saunders, Surety. Mar. 7, 1791; Samuel Holt & Elizabeth P. Price, dt Robt.; Robert Wilson, Surety. Jun. 16, 1794; David Rice & Jane Holt, dt Betty; Mary Rice, Surety; Married by James Mitchell, June 18, 1794. Sep. 25, 1799; Stockley Turner & Patsey Holt, dt Lucy; Joseph Holt, Surety. Dec. 21, 1801; Abraham Jenkins & Peggy Holt, dt Maria; Samuel Holt, Surety. Jul. 2, 1804; Thomas Edgar & Elizabeth P. Holt; John Roberts, --- On Tue, 10/13/09, Bob Holt <robertmholt@comcast.net> wrote: > From: Bob Holt <robertmholt@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [HOLT] Attn: Randall-John-Joseph-John-William > To: holt@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, October 13, 2009, 8:13 PM > Helene, good to hear from you. I > thought that subject line might get your > attention. > David Eldred Holt's book "A Mississippi Rebel in the Army > of Northern > Virginia" (one of the best descriptions of the Civil War > battles and > hardships of the soldiers I have read) follows him into > Virginia where he > meets some of his relatives. "Cousins" mostly. He first > meets Dr. Alfred > Charles Holt, Surgeon General of the Mississippi troops in > Virginia. They > were both from Woodville, Mississippi. > David Eldred was a son of Dr. David Rice Holt and Juliet > White. > Dr. Holt was a son of John Saunders Holt and Harriet > Nightingale O'Toole. He > was a son of William Holt and Lucy Saunders. > David was in Co. K of the 16th Miss. He enlisted with his > uncle, James > William Holt, brother of Dr. Charles Alfred. > When they get to Lynchburg, a Hotel clerk asks him if he is > kin to the Holts > of Bedford Co. He says Senator John Holt is his Uncle and > has a Plantation. > He is told the Holts own the hotel property and his cousin > Jim lives 2 > blocks down. Jim's wife is Betty and their little girl is > Milly. He has a > brother in law named Scruggs. He also has a sister named > Sallie, widow of > John Reese. > He meets old James Saunders, a cousin to his grandmother, > Lucy. Old Jim's > wife was Ann. they had a daughter who married a Surgeon. > He goes to Liberty, Virginia and meets David Holt, son of > Sen. John Holt. > This David has a sister Ann who married John Gill and they > lived on a > plantation named "Wolf Hill". > David Eldred goes to church and meets Lizzy Holt, a cousin > and an old lady, > cousin Martha Campbell. > David, son of Sen. John later married Sally Booth. When > asked why he isn't > in the war, David replies he's running the farm and says > brother Joe is a > major at the front and William, John and Jim are too old > and have their > families. > These Bedford people MIGHT be Samuel P. Holt's people but I > don't have a lot > on him. They might also be Major Joseph Holt's bunch or > Rev. John White > Holt's family. > Any ideas? > Bob Holt > >