The notary seal date is not given, which I find troubling (was it never executed?); and what can you get a 101 yr old person to tell you today? Do you believe what one says? I am skeptical, and would use this as a genealogical "road map" to find corroborating evidence. Cleo. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilma Bittinger" <0204bit@bevcomm.net> To: <holt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [HOLT] John Holt of England > But the information in the affidavit is presumed to be true and correct, > even though it was involved in the scam, right? > Wilma Bittinger > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cleo" <cdmhogan@usit.net> > To: <holt@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:20 PM > Subject: Re: [HOLT] John Holt of England > > >> This was created during the era around the turn of the century, >> apparently, >> when there were many charlatans running around gathering up funding to go >> to >> England and claim the "great estate" that had gone unclaimed there. They >> collected funds to pay for their trip to "prove the case" over there. >> >> The Holt families were among those who were caught up in this scam. When >> I >> began genealogy in the 1960's, there were still folks who remembered >> hearing >> their parents talk about the funds they invested in this scam that were >> lost, since no "great estate in England" was ever uncovered that belonged >> to >> any Holt they knew of! >> >> They were leery of my inquiries, thinking I was a part of some similar >> scam! >> >> Cleo (great grandson of Caroline Holt Hogan (1817-1903), Clarksville, TN) >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Helene" <hlvmp@comcast.net> >> To: <Holt-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:35 PM >> Subject: [HOLT] John Holt of England >> >> >>> Copy of the Original Affidavit of J.B. Holt, J.W. Drummond - Lawyer >>> >>> State of Tennessee } >>> Knox County } >>> >>> AFFIDAVIT of James Buchanan Holt >>> >>> The said affiant being first duly sworn deposes and says: >>> >>> My name is James Buchanan Holt, but I am usually known as James Holt. >>> I >>> was born near Buchanan's Bridge in Pittsylvania County, in the State of >>> Virginia, United States of America, on the 19th day of July, in the year >>> 1798, and will be one hundred and one (101) years old on the 19th day of >>> next >>> July, being the 19th day of July, 1899. My father was Nathaniel Holt >>> and >>> he >>> married Lucinda Carter, of Pittsylvania County, or Culpepper County, or >>> Botetourt County, Virginia, and she was my mother. My father died in >>> Jackson >>> County, Kentucky, some time since the Civil War began in 1861, aged >>> about >>> one >>> hundred years. My father's father was John Holt, who came from England >>> to >>> Virginia at an early day, and he was the son of a noted man in England, >>> who >>> was said to be very wealthy. My grandfather, John Holt, bought a farm >>> of >>> 400 >>> acres in Rockingham County, North Carolina, and shortly before his >>> death, >>> received the money from England to pay for this farm. His wife was a >>> Miss >>> Cagely. She survived him many years, and my Gutherie family lived with >>> her. >>> My grandfather, John Holt, was about fifty years old and his wife about >>> twenty years old when they married. >>> >>> My father, Nathaniel Holt, went into the United States Army in the >>> War >>> of >>> 1812, while he was living with my grandmother on the 400 acre farm in >>> Rockingham County, North Carolina, and my grandmother died while he was >>> in >>> the army. I was about fourteen years old, and went with my father to >>> Charleston, South Carolina, where his command then was. >>> >>> My grandfather, John Holt, had children as follows: Edward, John, >>> James, >>> Isaac, Betsy (who married a man names Amos), Polly (who married Isham >>> Sharpe >>> and went to Kentucky), Celia (who married a man named O'Dell and lived >>> and >>> died in Virginia), Ann (who married a man named Carter, and lived and >>> died >>> in >>> Virginia), and Nathaniel (who was my father). >>> >>> My recollection is that my father, Nathaniel Holt, was the youngest >>> of >>> my >>> grandfather's children. I do not know when my grandfather, John Holt, >>> died >>> and do not remember that I ever saw him, but I knew his wife and >>> remember >>> her >>> well. My father was born and reared in Virginia - probably in >>> Pittsylvania >>> County - and married Lucinda Carter (my mother). He had three children >>> born >>> in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, as follows: Nancy (who married a man >>> named >>> Spivey), William and James Buchanan (myself). Another child, Ann (who >>> then >>> moved to Henry County, Virginia, and married Rueben Keith) was born in >>> Henry >>> County. My father then moved to Rockingham County, North Carolina, just >>> over >>> the line and across the river and had five more children born at that >>> place, >>> to wit: Ruth, Eliza, Stephen, Nathaniel and Peggy. Ruth married >>> Halcomb, >>> Eliza married Hampton; Stephen married Ramsey and died in North >>> Carolina; >>> Peggy married a Sawyers and now lives in North Carolina. >>> >>> It has been the understanding in our family ever since I can >>> recollect, >>> that my grandfather, John Holt, was the son of a noted man in England >>> and >>> that a large fortune in England belonged to us and that we would get it >>> at >>> the proper time. >>> >>> And further affiant saith not. >>> >>> The foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn to by James Buchanan >>> Holt, with whom I am personally acquainted, before me. A Notary Public >>> in >>> and for Knox County, Tennessee, duly commissioned and qualified, and I >>> >>> >>> certify that my commission is dated _____ and expires _____. >>> >>> Witness my hand and official seal at office in Knoxville, Tennessee, >>> this >>> the 6th day of February, 1899. >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >>> in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >