This was created during the era around the turn of the century, apparently, when there were many charlatans running around gathering up funding to go to England and claim the "great estate" that had gone unclaimed there. They collected funds to pay for their trip to "prove the case" over there. The Holt families were among those who were caught up in this scam. When I began genealogy in the 1960's, there were still folks who remembered hearing their parents talk about the funds they invested in this scam that were lost, since no "great estate in England" was ever uncovered that belonged to any Holt they knew of! They were leery of my inquiries, thinking I was a part of some similar scam! Cleo (great grandson of Caroline Holt Hogan (1817-1903), Clarksville, TN) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Helene" <hlvmp@comcast.net> To: <Holt-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:35 PM Subject: [HOLT] John Holt of England > Copy of the Original Affidavit of J.B. Holt, J.W. Drummond - Lawyer > > State of Tennessee } > Knox County } > > AFFIDAVIT of James Buchanan Holt > > The said affiant being first duly sworn deposes and says: > > My name is James Buchanan Holt, but I am usually known as James Holt. > I > was born near Buchanan's Bridge in Pittsylvania County, in the State of > Virginia, United States of America, on the 19th day of July, in the year > 1798, and will be one hundred and one (101) years old on the 19th day of > next > July, being the 19th day of July, 1899. My father was Nathaniel Holt and > he > married Lucinda Carter, of Pittsylvania County, or Culpepper County, or > Botetourt County, Virginia, and she was my mother. My father died in > Jackson > County, Kentucky, some time since the Civil War began in 1861, aged about > one > hundred years. My father's father was John Holt, who came from England to > Virginia at an early day, and he was the son of a noted man in England, > who > was said to be very wealthy. My grandfather, John Holt, bought a farm of > 400 > acres in Rockingham County, North Carolina, and shortly before his death, > received the money from England to pay for this farm. His wife was a Miss > Cagely. She survived him many years, and my Gutherie family lived with > her. > My grandfather, John Holt, was about fifty years old and his wife about > twenty years old when they married. > > My father, Nathaniel Holt, went into the United States Army in the War > of > 1812, while he was living with my grandmother on the 400 acre farm in > Rockingham County, North Carolina, and my grandmother died while he was in > the army. I was about fourteen years old, and went with my father to > Charleston, South Carolina, where his command then was. > > My grandfather, John Holt, had children as follows: Edward, John, > James, > Isaac, Betsy (who married a man names Amos), Polly (who married Isham > Sharpe > and went to Kentucky), Celia (who married a man named O'Dell and lived and > died in Virginia), Ann (who married a man named Carter, and lived and died > in > Virginia), and Nathaniel (who was my father). > > My recollection is that my father, Nathaniel Holt, was the youngest of > my > grandfather's children. I do not know when my grandfather, John Holt, > died > and do not remember that I ever saw him, but I knew his wife and remember > her > well. My father was born and reared in Virginia - probably in > Pittsylvania > County - and married Lucinda Carter (my mother). He had three children > born > in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, as follows: Nancy (who married a man > named > Spivey), William and James Buchanan (myself). Another child, Ann (who then > moved to Henry County, Virginia, and married Rueben Keith) was born in > Henry > County. My father then moved to Rockingham County, North Carolina, just > over > the line and across the river and had five more children born at that > place, > to wit: Ruth, Eliza, Stephen, Nathaniel and Peggy. Ruth married Halcomb, > Eliza married Hampton; Stephen married Ramsey and died in North Carolina; > Peggy married a Sawyers and now lives in North Carolina. > > It has been the understanding in our family ever since I can recollect, > that my grandfather, John Holt, was the son of a noted man in England and > that a large fortune in England belonged to us and that we would get it at > the proper time. > > And further affiant saith not. > > The foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn to by James Buchanan > Holt, with whom I am personally acquainted, before me. A Notary Public in > and for Knox County, Tennessee, duly commissioned and qualified, and I > > > certify that my commission is dated _____ and expires _____. > > Witness my hand and official seal at office in Knoxville, Tennessee, > this > the 6th day of February, 1899. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

But the information in the affidavit is presumed to be true and correct, even though it was involved in the scam, right? Wilma Bittinger ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cleo" <cdmhogan@usit.net> To: <holt@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [HOLT] John Holt of England > This was created during the era around the turn of the century, > apparently, > when there were many charlatans running around gathering up funding to go > to > England and claim the "great estate" that had gone unclaimed there. They > collected funds to pay for their trip to "prove the case" over there. > > The Holt families were among those who were caught up in this scam. When > I > began genealogy in the 1960's, there were still folks who remembered > hearing > their parents talk about the funds they invested in this scam that were > lost, since no "great estate in England" was ever uncovered that belonged > to > any Holt they knew of! > > They were leery of my inquiries, thinking I was a part of some similar > scam! > > Cleo (great grandson of Caroline Holt Hogan (1817-1903), Clarksville, TN) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Helene" <hlvmp@comcast.net> > To: <Holt-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 12:35 PM > Subject: [HOLT] John Holt of England > > >> Copy of the Original Affidavit of J.B. Holt, J.W. Drummond - Lawyer >> >> State of Tennessee } >> Knox County } >> >> AFFIDAVIT of James Buchanan Holt >> >> The said affiant being first duly sworn deposes and says: >> >> My name is James Buchanan Holt, but I am usually known as James Holt. >> I >> was born near Buchanan's Bridge in Pittsylvania County, in the State of >> Virginia, United States of America, on the 19th day of July, in the year >> 1798, and will be one hundred and one (101) years old on the 19th day of >> next >> July, being the 19th day of July, 1899. My father was Nathaniel Holt >> and >> he >> married Lucinda Carter, of Pittsylvania County, or Culpepper County, or >> Botetourt County, Virginia, and she was my mother. My father died in >> Jackson >> County, Kentucky, some time since the Civil War began in 1861, aged about >> one >> hundred years. My father's father was John Holt, who came from England >> to >> Virginia at an early day, and he was the son of a noted man in England, >> who >> was said to be very wealthy. My grandfather, John Holt, bought a farm of >> 400 >> acres in Rockingham County, North Carolina, and shortly before his death, >> received the money from England to pay for this farm. His wife was a >> Miss >> Cagely. She survived him many years, and my Gutherie family lived with >> her. >> My grandfather, John Holt, was about fifty years old and his wife about >> twenty years old when they married. >> >> My father, Nathaniel Holt, went into the United States Army in the War >> of >> 1812, while he was living with my grandmother on the 400 acre farm in >> Rockingham County, North Carolina, and my grandmother died while he was >> in >> the army. I was about fourteen years old, and went with my father to >> Charleston, South Carolina, where his command then was. >> >> My grandfather, John Holt, had children as follows: Edward, John, >> James, >> Isaac, Betsy (who married a man names Amos), Polly (who married Isham >> Sharpe >> and went to Kentucky), Celia (who married a man named O'Dell and lived >> and >> died in Virginia), Ann (who married a man named Carter, and lived and >> died >> in >> Virginia), and Nathaniel (who was my father). >> >> My recollection is that my father, Nathaniel Holt, was the youngest of >> my >> grandfather's children. I do not know when my grandfather, John Holt, >> died >> and do not remember that I ever saw him, but I knew his wife and remember >> her >> well. My father was born and reared in Virginia - probably in >> Pittsylvania >> County - and married Lucinda Carter (my mother). He had three children >> born >> in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, as follows: Nancy (who married a man >> named >> Spivey), William and James Buchanan (myself). Another child, Ann (who >> then >> moved to Henry County, Virginia, and married Rueben Keith) was born in >> Henry >> County. My father then moved to Rockingham County, North Carolina, just >> over >> the line and across the river and had five more children born at that >> place, >> to wit: Ruth, Eliza, Stephen, Nathaniel and Peggy. Ruth married >> Halcomb, >> Eliza married Hampton; Stephen married Ramsey and died in North Carolina; >> Peggy married a Sawyers and now lives in North Carolina. >> >> It has been the understanding in our family ever since I can >> recollect, >> that my grandfather, John Holt, was the son of a noted man in England and >> that a large fortune in England belonged to us and that we would get it >> at >> the proper time. >> >> And further affiant saith not. >> >> The foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn to by James Buchanan >> Holt, with whom I am personally acquainted, before me. A Notary Public >> in >> and for Knox County, Tennessee, duly commissioned and qualified, and I >> >> >> certify that my commission is dated _____ and expires _____. >> >> Witness my hand and official seal at office in Knoxville, Tennessee, >> this >> the 6th day of February, 1899. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Somewhere in the Holt archives we have posted information of an inheritance that is being held in England that if anyone can claim positive proof of their kinship it ca be released. It was found in a manuscript and I believe my husband has a full copy of the book that it was in on cd . I believe it was to a Judge John Holt; but could be wrong. The funds are supposed to be in the millions of pounds and tie to possibly the Randall Holt line as I recall. Helene