After a quick look at these Holts using the info you have given, it does look like you're on the right track (too many indications to be coincidental, like J.T.'s (likely) father George dying in the same OK county where J.T. was married, George having a brother named Jonathan, and J.T.'s wife being born in Cherokee Co., GA too). I'd like to help if I could, since running into some of those Holt brick walls myself and not yet finding the answers. You're really just missing two census records showing J.T., and you of course know that sometimes a person simply wasn't enumerated. Once, my great grandparents were enumerated twice because they were visiting my grandparents and listed in their household, and either before or after that, were counted in their own home. And you also know that "Holt" was spelled incorrectly over and over in census records, either by the census taker, or sometimes I find, by Ancestry. How sure are you that J.T.'s likely father (George) was married to both a Nancy Jane and a Katherine? I saw Geo. A. and Catherine in the 1880 Cherokee Co., GA census records, with niece and nephew Martha and Wilson, and son James (born abt. 1874). Do you know if J.T. had a brother James? Or do you think it's possible an informant (perhaps a neighbor if Geo. and family weren't at home) gave an incorrect name and birth year and "James" was actually J.T.? You might look for a James Holt this age in the 1900 census records. If George A. was married to Nancy Jane (?) before he married Catherine (?), Nancy Jane may have died and George had to allow relatives to care for J.T. after his birth. If you know or could find out Nancy Jane's maiden name, you might find J.T. living with some of her relatives in the 1880 census records. This is probably too obvious to bring up, but do you have a copy of J.T.'s death certificate? See how simple the solution is!?!! Hopefully, a perspective different from yours will give you another direction to take in looking for your J.T. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 7:33 PM Subject: [HOLT] Jonathan Theodore Holt 1872-1953 GA, OK > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: bholt9359 > Surnames: Holt > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3204/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > I've been working on and off on this ever since I started genealogy and I > just can't seem to solve this one. I can't find Jonathan Theodore Holt > (my 3rd great grandfather) before the 1910 census (and prior to marriage). > I have found him in the 1910, 20 and 30 census but nothing before that. > So, I can't confirm his parents. > > Here's what I know: > Jonathan Theodore (JT) Holt > b. 09 Oct 1872 Georgia, USA > d. 05 Jul 1953 Asher, Pottawatomie, OK, USA > m. 16 Aug 1896 Marietta, Love, OK, USA to Zenith Elvira Mullins > > He moved from GA to Love Co, OK sometime before 1896 and moved again to > Asher, Pottawatomie, OK by 1910. > > I'm almost certain his father is George A. Holt > b. 18 Jan 1852 George, USA > d. 12 Jan 1900 Marietta, Love, OK, USA > > His mother I am less certain about. The George above was married to a > Nancy Jane, however family records say JT's mother was Catherine. Two > wives have been considered. > > I have found the George Holt, b. abt. 1852 in Cherokee Co., Georgia that > you're bound to run into (1860,1870,1880 census) and, yes, later he is > married to a Catherine, but I can't connect him to JT. > > If anyone can find JT before 1910 I would be extremely grateful. > > Thanks so much in advance. > Brad Holt > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >