Fran, The Cheif Justice (according to my info) had no children. His brother Rowland had 4 sons and one daughter. Rowland inherited the forune and estate of John. The eldest two sons, John andThomas, had no children. The third son, Rowland, had two sons,Rowland and Thomas, neither of which produced a male heir and the Holt "fortune" and real estate for the most part passed to the Wilson family through Lucinda Holt who married Thomas Wilson. In 1901 a representative of the Holt's, Thomas Holt Murray, visited Redgrave and obtained first hand most of the info I am relating here. My records indicate that my line is descended from Henry Holt the fourth Son of Rowland, the brother of Chief Justice John Holt. Henry had left England prior to the deaths of his older brothers and was alive only a few years after his arrival so I assume he was never aware that he probably would have been the heir to a substantial estate. Henry married Dorcas Armstrong in Deleware. They established a trading post near Ft Granville in PA. They had three sons, John, Henry, and Thomas. Thomas had a son named James born near Lewistown, PA. I don't know what his middle name was but it could have been Buchanan because After Henry's death Dorcas married Arthur Buchanan, an indian trader who had been an officer under George Washington in the Indian Wars. This James would have been a great-grandson of Rowland, he married Mary Bratton. I don't know where they got to but I know his fater's name wasn't Nathaniel. Based on the birthdate of his brother John, from whom I descend, his birthdate would be a few yaears one way or the other of 1758. James had a brother John who had a son named James, middle name unknow, who was born in central PA in 1788. When Thomas Holt Murray was preparing for his trip to England he encountered some descendents (Wilsons I presume) who were less than warm to his coming. Apparently they had been contacted over the years by representatives or actual Holts who has asked that they be provided with transportation back to England to investigate the possibility of being entitled to some portion of the estate. He went and was given access to a great deal of church and census records from which much of my information comes. This James Buchanan Holt doesn't seem to fit in with my data. None of the names at the bottom of the obituary are familiar to me. The middle name of Buchanan seems to be coincidental. Just as many families named Washington claim to be related to George Washington most aren't. I have tried very hard but in my research I have never encountered "Buchanan's Bridge". If someone could discover such a thing near the Lewistown, PA area it might be more substantial evidence. Always glad to share what I have on the Holt's of my line and always looking for more. Mott Holt

Not sure if it helps anyone or not but: There is a Buchanan Bridge in the area north of Lynn, Essex, Mass. and south of present Salem. Carson and Betty -----Original Message----- From: KAILUAHOLT@aol.com [mailto:KAILUAHOLT@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:19 PM To: HOLT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOLT-L] James Buchanan Holt <snip> I have tried very hard but in my research I have never encountered "Buchanan's Bridge". If someone could discover such a thing near the Lewistown, PA area it might be more substantial evidence. <snip>

Betty, I was looking for the Holt name from my fathers mother; but my mother's mother was a Turner...would like information on the Turner's also, if you have any. Thanks, Kay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Turner" <CoachBetty@Softhome.net> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 9:27 PM Subject: RE: [HOLT-L] James Buchanan Holt > Not sure if it helps anyone or not but: There is a Buchanan Bridge in the > area north of Lynn, Essex, Mass. and south of present Salem. > > Carson and Betty > > -----Original Message----- > From: KAILUAHOLT@aol.com [mailto:KAILUAHOLT@aol.com] > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 7:19 PM > To: HOLT-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [HOLT-L] James Buchanan Holt > > > <snip> I have tried very hard > but in my research I have never encountered "Buchanan's Bridge". If someone > could discover such a thing near the Lewistown, PA area it might be more > substantial evidence. <snip> > > > ==== HOLT Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

To the best of my knowledge, I am not related to this line of Holt's but, I am an American history buff and know something about this area of Pa. The Lewistown area was still a wilderness area in the mid to late 1700's. There were many toll ferries and bridges in that area that were named for the families who owned them. Once the are started becoming more settled after the Revoultionary War, and the state started buying and confiscating land for road rightaways, these ferries and bridges were forgotten about. It is very possibly that there was a Buchanan's Bridge in the area, especially since Mott states Dorcas' second husbands name was Buchanan. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KAILUAHOLT@aol.com> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:18 PM Subject: [HOLT-L] James Buchanan Holt > Fran, > The Cheif Justice (according to my info) had no children. His brother > Rowland had 4 sons and one daughter. Rowland inherited the forune and estate > of John. The eldest two sons, John andThomas, had no children. The third > son, Rowland, had two sons,Rowland and Thomas, neither of which produced a > male heir and the Holt "fortune" and real estate for the most part passed to > the Wilson family through Lucinda Holt who married Thomas Wilson. In 1901 a > representative of the Holt's, Thomas Holt Murray, visited Redgrave and > obtained first hand most of the info I am relating here. > > My records indicate that my line is descended from Henry Holt the fourth Son > of Rowland, the brother of Chief Justice John Holt. Henry had left England > prior to the deaths of his older brothers and was alive only a few years > after his arrival so I assume he was never aware that he probably would have > been the heir to a substantial estate. > > Henry married Dorcas Armstrong in Deleware. They established a trading post > near Ft Granville in PA. They had three sons, John, Henry, and Thomas. > Thomas had a son named James born near Lewistown, PA. I don't know what his > middle name was but it could have been Buchanan because After Henry's death > Dorcas married Arthur Buchanan, an indian trader who had been an officer > under George Washington in the Indian Wars. This James would have been a > great-grandson of Rowland, he married Mary Bratton. > > I don't know where they got to but I know his fater's name wasn't Nathaniel. > Based on the birthdate of his brother John, from whom I descend, his > birthdate would be a few yaears one way or the other of 1758. James had a > brother John who had a son named James, middle name unknow, who was born in > central PA in 1788. > > When Thomas Holt Murray was preparing for his trip to England he encountered > some descendents (Wilsons I presume) who were less than warm to his coming. > Apparently they had been contacted over the years by representatives or > actual Holts who has asked that they be provided with transportation back to > England to investigate the possibility of being entitled to some portion of > the estate. He went and was given access to a great deal of church and census > records from which much of my information comes. > > This James Buchanan Holt doesn't seem to fit in with my data. None of the > names at the bottom of the obituary are familiar to me. The middle name of > Buchanan seems to be coincidental. Just as many families named Washington > claim to be related to George Washington most aren't. I have tried very hard > but in my research I have never encountered "Buchanan's Bridge". If someone > could discover such a thing near the Lewistown, PA area it might be more > substantial evidence. > > Always glad to share what I have on the Holt's of my line and always looking > for more. > > Mott Holt > > > ==== HOLT Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >