This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bholt9359 Surnames: Holt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3204/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I've been working on and off on this ever since I started genealogy and I just can't seem to solve this one. I can't find Jonathan Theodore Holt (my 3rd great grandfather) before the 1910 census (and prior to marriage). I have found him in the 1910, 20 and 30 census but nothing before that. So, I can't confirm his parents. Here's what I know: Jonathan Theodore (JT) Holt b. 09 Oct 1872 Georgia, USA d. 05 Jul 1953 Asher, Pottawatomie, OK, USA m. 16 Aug 1896 Marietta, Love, OK, USA to Zenith Elvira Mullins He moved from GA to Love Co, OK sometime before 1896 and moved again to Asher, Pottawatomie, OK by 1910. I'm almost certain his father is George A. Holt b. 18 Jan 1852 George, USA d. 12 Jan 1900 Marietta, Love, OK, USA His mother I am less certain about. The George above was married to a Nancy Jane, however family records say JT's mother was Catherine. Two wives have been considered. I have found the George Holt, b. abt. 1852 in Cherokee Co., Georgia that you're bound to run into (1860,1870,1880 census) and, yes, later he is married to a Catherine, but I can't connect him to JT. If anyone can find JT before 1910 I would be extremely grateful. Thanks so much in advance. Brad Holt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Silkflorals Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3203/mb.ashx Message Board Post: See posting before this one, I wanted to add, I am looking for any info on John Holt's living in NJ from the mid 1800's to the early 1900's. Especially ones that worked in Silk Mills Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Silkflorals Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3202/mb.ashx Message Board Post: looking for any info about John Holt who worked in the NJ Silk Mines. He married my great grandmother 31 Aug 1886 in Philadelphia. PA and her father banished him from the home that same night. It is my belief he might have been a polygomist. I think he only married her because he got her pregnant. My father told me stories that John used to come to Philadelphia every weekend and give my grandfather (His son) a silver nickel. He would meet him on the street corner. His marriage license lists a birth date of 26 Aug 1864 in Newark, NJ, but NJ has no record of this. I wish to end the mystery to my maiden name and find out where it had its roots. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I also want to note, my great grandmother never remarried after John was banished. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

One book I had found at the Johnston Co (NC) Heritage Center, "HOLT - Descendant's of Joseph Holt of Johnston County North Carolina," by John William Holt, has that no one (at least at the time of the book being written) knew who this Joseph Holt's parents were. Could you possibly send me the your sources of info for the fact of Elizabeth ??? Holt being buried in Johnston Co? Where is Elizabeth buried? Are you related to this line of Holts? I descend thru: Joseph Holt & Elizabeth ??? John Holt & Louquinna/Lugenia Barber (her 1st marriage) John William Holt & Frances B. Parrish Gertrude"Gertie" M. Holt & Ulyses "HP" Harrision Pollard Gilmer Harrison Pollard, Sr. & Mary Jane Elizabeth Wheeler (me) Diane Jean Pollard Thanks! Diane Pollard Keiser -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Helene" <hlvmp@comcast.net> > Johnston Co., NC There are 2 there in 1800. William and James. Joseph's > wife died there according to records I have in a database. > Helene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:48 AM > Subject: Re: [HOLT] Did any Nicholas Holt (Mass) decendents move into > theSouth? > > > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > > > Author: geno115 > > Surnames: > > Classification: queries > > > > Message Board URL: > > > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > > > Message Board Post: > > > > Do you know which area of NC William Holt was in? I'm a direct descendant > > of Joseph Holt (b. 1812-1813) and Elizabeth ??? (b. abt 1811). Thanks! > > > > Diane Pollard Keiser > > > > Important Note: > > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > > above and respond on the board. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to HOLT-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes I know the book. I started reading it. I have to keep remembering that it is a novel. I started tracking inaccuracies as I read thinking it would likely be accurate but after a while I realized that it would make a complicated story if all of the information was historically accurate. Just as an example, she mentions that Mary Toothacher was her only sister. She actually had at least two others living in Andover at the time. Of course this would complicate the story, since I have not been able to find out what her sisters did during the trial... History is quiet about this. Also she says the grandfather died years before...but he actually died around Oct 1690... meaning that when they arrive in Andover in Dec 1690... the grandfather had only just died. This too would complicate things. So I assume that there are reasons for the changes. But it points out that you can't rely on historical novels for solid info, but more to capture the spirit of the times Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JaniceHoy58 Surnames: Holt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is a very good historical novel regarding Martha Allen Carrier and her family, that you would be interested in, if you haven't already read it. "The Heretic's Daughter" by Kathleen Kent. My family relates back to Sarah Towne Cloyce, who was convicted, but not hung in 1692. Her two sisters were also convicted, Rebecca Town Nurse, and Mary Towne Easty, who were hung in 1692. Janice Hoy of the Robert Holt line Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JaniceHoy58 Surnames: HOLT Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Regarging the Robert Holt line from Rochdale, Lancashire, England in the 1600's. I would be interested in communicating with you, since that is also my Holt line. Janice Hoy jhoy1@ix.netcom.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am afraid I don't. I was in communication with someone else and now, when I need it, I can't find the email. If I find it I will post. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Johnston Co., NC There are 2 there in 1800. William and James. Joseph's wife died there according to records I have in a database. Helene ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [HOLT] Did any Nicholas Holt (Mass) decendents move into theSouth? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: geno115 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Do you know which area of NC William Holt was in? I'm a direct descendant > of Joseph Holt (b. 1812-1813) and Elizabeth ??? (b. abt 1811). Thanks! > > Diane Pollard Keiser > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: geno115 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Do you know which area of NC William Holt was in? I'm a direct descendant of Joseph Holt (b. 1812-1813) and Elizabeth ??? (b. abt 1811). Thanks! Diane Pollard Keiser Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ed15271 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3201/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for any connections to this John Holt Sr. b. c.1740 lived in Prince William Co. VA in 1762 and/or earlier. Where did he come from before that? Was he an immigrant? Did he have any family other than included below in this timetable? Are there any known descendants of Anne Holt Thomas or William Holt or any other of the unnamed children that were counted in the 1784-7 census? Timetable and Paper Trail for Granville Co NC Holt Family Members Last update: 4-30-08 For clarification: Charles Holt is not the son or grandson of Michael Holt of Orange Co. NC & Alamance Co. NC as it has finally been proven by Family TREE DNA comparisons made in November, 2004. By the same DNA procedures in 2005, Relationships have also been established between Charles Holt, James Holt, and John Holt, Jr. who married Sarah Fuller. This relationship does imply that the elder John Holt referred to below must surely be the father of said Charles, John, James, and William, Anne and others. Where known, I will refer to the older John as Sr. and the youngest John as Jr. John Jr. also had a son named John (III). 1756-60 Thomas Holt sells land to Green Hill, pg. 701 Bk. 6, Granville Co. NC (Since Charles was born in Prince Wlm. County, VA, this does not look likely to be his father.) 1762 - Mar 30 Charles born Prince William Co. VA per his RW pension application (Have copy) 1764 - May 1 an Elizabeth Holt m. Samuel Birch or Burch, Granville Co. NC (Dau of Thomas? Or maybe Sister or Sister in Law of John Sr?) 1765- John Holt Sr listed on Tax Rolls Granville Co. NC for the first time 1769 - John Holt Sr listed on Tax Rolls Granville Co. NC 1771 - John Holt Sr on list of Granville Co. NC Militia Co. of Capt Sol Alston and Lt. Philemon Bradford 1778- John Holt Sr signed Oath of allegiance of the State of NC and for the County of Granville and District of Beaver Dam taken by the Subscribers and administered by Thomas Banks, J.P.. (copied later in this document) 1778 - Nov 19 As Chain Bearer, Charles Holt is listed on Survey report of John Holt Sr property on Robertson Creek, Granville Co. NC done by order of Memucan Hunt, Entry Officer of Claims for Lands in the County of Granville, NC, dtd 26 Aug 1778. (Have copies) 1779-90 John Holt Sr sells land to John Chadwick, pg. 645 Bk. O, Granville Co. NC 1780 - Sep 15 Charles joined Capt B. Moore's NC Militia in Granville Co. NC served 3 ½ months per RW pension 1781 - Jun 6 Charles joined Capt Moore's NC Militia again for 5 months, RW pension application. A DAR application says SC Minuteman, which is in error according to his pension application, those records show NC Militia 1784 - Charles and John Sr both listed on Tax Rolls of Granville Co. NC 1784 - Oct 8 Anne Holt m. John Thomas Granville Co. NC (Listed in Beaverdam District 1786 census 1 wm 21-60 1 wm -21 1 wf all age, 5 names from John Holt) 1784 - Dec 19 James Holt m. Sarah Heflin Granville Co. NC James Holt was BM (not listed on 1786 or 1790 census. See note below on the 1786 census) James & Sarah moved west along the same migration route as Charles. Both James and Charles were living in Rutherford Co. TN at the same time. They both had children born in NC, GA, and TN. James died in Moulton, Lawrence Co. AL and Sarah moved on to Washington Co. AR with her children 1785 - Feb 15 Charles Holt married Martha (assumed to be Rackley then) in Franklin Co. NC per their RW pension applications (Have copies). The marriage is not found recorded in Franklin Co. NC records per her RW pension application file. 1785 - Dec 25 Charles' 1st son William Charles Holt born Granville Co. NC. 1786 - Charles Listed on 1784-87 NC State Census in Granville Co. Beaverdam District, 2 wm 21-60, 1 wf all ages, (note: first child not listed - probable error in age posting on white males as 2 wm 21-60). For some reason or another Charles does not appear on a Federal census record until 1820 in St Clair Co, Alabama 13 names from Charles is John Sr , 2 wm 21-60, 4 wm -21 & 60 , 5 wf all ages. . James and his wife could possibly be included with John's census listing. 1788 - Charles' 1st daughter Rebecca born Franklin or Granville Co. NC 1789 - Feb/Apr Creed Vinvent(Vincent) proved deed from Jno. Holt Sr to Alex Vincent for 100 acres 1789 - Mar 15 Jeremiah Rackley m. Sally Hale Granville Co. NC James Holt was BM 1789-91 Court Rec p.29 James Holt ordered to pay support of a bastard child by him begotten of Elizabeth Weaver 1790 - Reconstructed 1790 census is taken from Tax Rolls and only lists John Holt Sr. Charles & Martha Holt had evidently moved before this time to Franklin Co. NC and were not on the Tax Rolls for either county, therefor not included on 1790 census for either of the counties. 1790 - Dec 11 Charles' 2nd son John Canie Holt born Franklin or Granville Co. NC 1791 - Feb 8 John Holt Jr m. Sarah Fuller Granville Co. NC dau of Jones Fuller; James Holt was BM 1791 - Mar 11 Will Book A Franklin Co, NC pg. 52, Charles Holt & Jery Rackley among buyers of an estate sale 1791 - Jul 8 ? a John Holt m. Sarah Mullen Granville Co. NC John Holt was BM ???? Could be John Sr.? 1790-93 John Holt sells land to John Chadwick, pg. 50 Bk. N, Granville Co. NC John Holt receives land from State of NC, pg 60 1790-1793 Granville Co. NC 1793 - Jul 1 Charles granted 180 acres in Spartanburg Co. SC by Gov. Moultrie near Dutchman's Creek which flows into Tyger River just across the line in Union Co. SC. Union Co. SC Land purchase Vol 32 pg 363. The Rackley's also moved to adjacent Union Co. SC when Charles finally moved to Spartanburg Co. SC which was perhaps sometime after the birth of his son James. 1793 - Sep Court Will Book A Franklin Co, NC pg. 112, above Mar 11, 1791 estate sale recorded (Charles Holt listed among buyers) 1793 - Charles' 3rd Son James J Simpson Holt born in Franklin or Granville Co. NC. Some say Spartanburg Co. SC, but see date and location of next entry. 1794 - Feb 28 Deed Bk 10 Franklin Co, NC #1355 pg. 180, Mills Rackley and wife, Rebekah Rackley of Franklin Co. to Micka. Rackley of same, Feb 28, 1794, for 50 pds. Lawful money of N.C. a tract of 120 acres adjoining Jacob Jones, it being part of a tract of land granted to John Rackley which adjoins Micka. Rackley, Denby, Elias Ross, Stallions, and Jacob Jones. Wit: Jeremiah Rackley, Charles Holt, William Littlefield. Mills Rackley and wife moved to Union Co. SC same time frame as Charles moved to Spartanburg Co.SC & John Holt Jr. and William Holt moved to Laurens Co. SC with the Fuller inlaws of John Jr. 1795 - Feb 2 John Holt sells land to William Bailey, pg. 154 Bk. Q, Granville Co. NC Feb 2 1795 1796 - Oct John Holt sells land to Jones Fuller, pg. 340 Bk. Q, Granville Co. NC 1796 - Charles' 2nd daughter Catherine born in Spartanburg Co. SC 1799 - Sep 11 a Charles Holt m. Jane Pounds Granville Co. NC (WHO WAS THIS Charles ?) 1800 - Charles' 3rd daughter Martha born in Spartanburg Co. SC 1801 - Dec 23 Charles sold Spartanburg Co. SC property pg. 114-115, Bk H: Charles Holt (Spartanburg) to John Storye (or Story) (Same); for $200 SOLD 180 AC; GRANT Jul. 1, 1793 Gov. William Moultrie to (not given); border: James Betterton and David Prewet. Witness Absalom Bobo and James Winter. Signed Charles Holt's mark. Wit. Oath Dec. 23, 1801 Absalom Bobo to Wm Smith. Rec. Apr. 23, 1802. Dower renounced Martha Holt to Wm Smith Dec. 23, 1801 1802 - Charles' 4th daughter Elizabeth born in Franklin Co. GA 1805 - Charles' 1st son William Charles married in Franklin Co. GA 1806 - Charles' 4th son Kindrel Lawson Holt born in Franklin Co. GA 1808 - Charles' 5th unnamed daughter is born in TN; deceased before 1830. 1810 - census John Jr & Sarah Laurens Co. SC; 2wm 10-16; 2wm 16-26; 1wm 26-45; 2wf -10; 1wf 10-16; 1wf 26-45 William Holt Laurens Co. SC listed near to John; 1wm 26-45 no other family 1816 - Jul 30 Charles' Daughter Catherine Holt married Jesse Taylor in Rutherford Co. TN, taken from microfilmed county records 1810 - 1817 Sarah Fuller Holt died and John Jr married Elizabeth Ruff Cannon Abbeville Co. SC 1820 -census Charles & Martha in St Clair Co, AL; 2 wm over 20, 1 wm under 20, 2 wf over 20, 1 wf under 20 John Jr & Elizabeth in Laurens Co. SC; 1wm 45 or more; 3wf -10; 1wf 10-16; 1wf 16-26; 1wf 26-45 1820 - Feb 22 p.138 Old Huntsville Land Office and Military Warrants 1810-1855, Charles Holt Blount Co, AL, Sec 17, T 14, R 2W 1821 - Jul 26 p.2 Old Tuskaloosa Land Office Records and Military Warrants 1821 - 1855 Charles Holt Jefferson Co. AL, Sec 8, T15, R1E 1826 - May 12 Charles Holt sold land to James Cosby, Jefferson Co. AL Deed Book 2, pg. 195 1826 - Jun 10 Charles Holt & Martha Holt Sold land to son-in-law Jesse Taylor, Jefferson Co. AL Deed Bk. 2, pg 246 1830 - Fed. Blount Co. AL Census 5th pg. Charles Holt, 1 wm 20-30, 1 wm 60-70, 1 wf 50-60 1836 - Cert # 22 418: Holt, Charles, aged 72, and a resident of Blount Co; private (?)SC (NC) Militia; enrolled on Oct 29, 1833, under act of Congress of June 7, 1832, payment to date from Mar 4, 1831; annual allowance, $28.33; sums received to date of publication of list, $84.99. - Revolutionary Pension Roll, in Part 3, Vol. xiii, Sen. Coc. 514, 23rd Cong., 1st sess., 1833-34. 1837 John Holt Jr died in Abbeville Co. SC. His second wife Elizabeth and their 4 children moved to Shelby Co.TX before 1840 1840 - Fed. Blount Co. AL Census 3rd pg.: C. Holt, 1 m 70-80, 1 f 70-80 1840 - Jun 1 Census of Pensioners. State of AL 1841- Northern Dist., pg. 148, Blount Co, Western Div, Charles Holt, Age 78, living as head of household 1847 - Sep 1847 Charles Holt died Blount Co. AL 85 years of age 1854 - May 11 Charles' wife Martha died age 90 at home of son John Canie Holt, Blount Co. AL She had applied for and was approved for Rev War Widow's pension. She died before certificate was issued. The heirs received her check. Page 46 Granville Co., NC Land Entries 1778-1785 line 540 Mar 16, 1779 John Holt Sr enters 150 ac in Granville Co. water of Cedar and Robertson Creeks; border: his own land, Wm. Huit, & Samuel Smithe; "42 & 57" transferred to Micajah Bullock by order of John Holt Sr warrant to issue in his name; warrant Sept. 4, 1779 [ warrant Aug.. 12, 1779 - - Lined out] Page 56 page 178 received of Wm. Hewit [for No. 353 $43 to be applied to his entry when received said entry vide. Page 50 Samuel Smith enters 125[written over 225] ac in Granville Co. on waters of Beaver Dam Cr; border: his own line, John Holt, Sr & Wm. Huit; includes a "settlement" of said Smith and "those he purchased it of" has been in peaceable possion of 10 years; warrant Apr. 8 1780 Page 112 Hewit, Wm 8, 661A Page 113 Huit, Wm. 540, 596 Source: Abstracts of land entries: Granville Co. NC 1778-1877 by Dr. A.B. Pruitt ISBN #0-944-992-15-3 Granville County Court Minutes Index pages 302 &303. Hewit, Wm, 16,19, 20 Huet (Huit, Hut) Chas., 113, 172: Ruth, 226; Wm., 76 Page 16: James Holt proved deed from WILLIAM HEWIT to John Heflin for 172 acres. Page 19: WILLIAM HEWIT acknowledged deed to Gideon Freeman for 488 acres and deed to James Heflin for 280 acres. Page 20: 72 John Dickerson vrs. Mark White. Deed from WILLIAM HEWIT to Wm. Lawrence for 180 acres proved by Joun Guin. Bill of sale from John and Sarah Bowls and Andrew Yeargin to William Bumpass for negroes proved by Gabril Davis. John Moore vrs. Charles Jones. Samual Pointer and Jno. Webb value Negro bequeathed to Isabella Owen by William Allen. Page 76: Division of estate of Benja. Glaze, deceased, made; Jenry Williams deeds sundry articles to Joseph Taylor. John Comer Peake appointed constable for county. Wm. Huet, overseer of Tarboro road from Jeffries' track to Ledge of Rocks Creek and some of hands belonged to Joseph Landish. Source: Court Mi! nutes of Granville County North Carolina 1746 - 1820 by Zae Hargett Gwynn Published by Joseph W. Watson 406 Piedmont Ave Rocky Mount, N.C. 1977 Fisher-Harrison Corporation Seeman Printery Division Durham, N.C. The following was taken from Hillsborough District, NC Superior Court records, Bk. 1, 1768-1791 which included Granville Co and Orange Co as well as others. 1768 - Mar Term John Holt Sr served as a member of a jury 1769 - Mar Term James Lindley vs. John Holt Sr 1772 - Sep Term Elizabeth Holt wife of John Sr fined for failing to appear as a witness for Sam Parks vs Jesse Phillips 1782 - Oct Term John Holt Sr served as a member of a jury to try a horse thief 1786 - Oct Term John Holt Sr tried for a misdemeanor and found not guilty Thanks, Ed Holt Administrator Holt Surname Project Family Tree DNA Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: No I am N43066. I too wish that the other member would submit their lineage it would be helpful. I have been in touch with the UK member which has been great! Provides some insight into the family although no direct link....but some history. I have also been in touch with the member who lists their earliest family member as William Holt in NC. They do not know how they are connected to Nicholas, so I have been trying to determine if one of Nicholas's decendants headed south early enough to tie into this person...but haven't found anyone heading out of NE until the mid 1800s. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ed15271 Surnames: Holt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Folks, I was interested in your conversations concerning the useage of DNA for genealogy. I am the Administrator of the Family Tree DNA Holt Surname Project and I can tell you that the cost for testing through Family Tree DNA direct will be higher than going through the Holt Surname Project at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/holt We have one female researcher who is a member of our project who had a male relative take the test for her. He matches up with the Nicholas Holt DNA but they are still living in England. He is Kit 63919. If you go to my website at http://HoltFamilyDNAproject.com you can also see abbreviated lineages for our membership plus a few who tested through DNA Heritage. I was wondering if one of you is Kit N48033 because I would still like to have your lineage for this very purpose . . . comparison by others but keeping the living persons private. Two of our members are from the same family and they have the NC and TN connections, but they do not know how they might be related to Nicholas. All of the separated groups in the lineage and DNA charts are different unrelated lines. So you see that we have many different Holt lines not just by spelling. If there is anything that I can help you with just contact me at emh1930@suddenlink.net Ed Holt Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: holt Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To get your DNA done you have a few options. What I did was to have my father participate in the National Geographic Genographic project(https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/?fs=www5.nationalgeographic.com ). For males you can either have them test the x chromasomes (DNA from the mothers side) or Y Chromasomes (male line of DNA). I had the Y Chromasomes tested. When I got the results they told me that if I wanted to share the information to click a box and it was shared with familytreedna.com. then I went to familytreedna.com and found I could see who else I was a match with or I could also join a group. I joined the Holt DNA group where you can see other Holts DNA groupings and get a feel for which family you are most closely aligned with. (http://www.holtfamilydnaproject.com/) The other option is to go to familytreedna.com direclt (http://www.familytreedna.com/Default.aspx? ) and order tests through them. I believe the costs are about the same. At the time the cost was $99/kit. If you go to the national geographic site you will see that your purchase of a kit goes towards a bigger gene research project looking at migration patterns and collecting DNA samples from remote populations around the world. It is all very intersting. I assume that over time I will learn more about the family as more people participate. You will not learn details about recent family....but you will get a rough idea on where people came from... and how they migrated over thousands of years. Neat stuff Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: roal72what1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I read your information about Nicholas Holt and it follows along the line of information that I have. I do not have any information on his anceestors. I have not done the DNA bit and as far as I know none of my relatives have. I might be interested in participating but do not know how to approach getting the test done and how to compare the results to Nicholas Holt. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rascal21 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: One of Michael Holt (Hold)'s decendents was a Nicholas Holt. Many in the NC and Tenn. area. You may be from this line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I am a female far removed from my Mary "Polly" Holt who married Nicholas Powell; they were my great-great-great grandparents. Nonetheless, I am interested in their ancestors and would be very interested in seeing the Holt DNA reports and learning who might be related to me. My research has been done almost entirely via the internet, so I cannot say I have sources for my data, but...for what it's worth, I believe that... my line runs: Mary, Benjamin (Sarah LITTLE), NC->KY William B. (Eleanor HEARD), VA->NC? Ambrose (Barbara ESTES), VA->TN? Plunkett Harroway (Elisha ESTES). VA Richard Sr. (Margaret PLUNKETT) born in Rochdale, d Essex Co, VA Robert - Rochdale John - Rochdale I'd like to correspond with any relatives. Mary-Gene Page California ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [HOLT] Did any Nicholas Holt (Mass) decendents move into theSouth? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: pepperdog_1 > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > No I am N43066. I too wish that the other member would submit their > lineage it would be helpful. I have been in touch with the UK member which > has been great! Provides some insight into the family although no direct > link....but some history. > > I have also been in touch with the member who lists their earliest family > member as William Holt in NC. They do not know how they are connected to > Nicholas, so I have been trying to determine if one of Nicholas's > decendants headed south early enough to tie into this person...but haven't > found anyone heading out of NE until the mid 1800s. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > HOLT-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: Holt, Allen, Carrier Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I notice that the Robert line's DNA differs slightly from Nichola's.... 3 markers. I don't know enough about this to tell if that is a big difference or not. Nicholas came over in 1635 on the James. He was one of the original members of the church in Andover, and from what I can tell he was a very religious person... so I suspect he left for religious reasons. He is said to have come from Romsey, Hants, Eng. He was one of the founders of the town of Andover. And I notice that there is an Andover near Romsey... so I wonder if there is a connection. Do you know anything about the history of what was going on in this part of England in 1635.. he would have left in April of that year. I am related to Nicholas through three of his children, Samuel, James and Elizabeth. FYI there is also a Salem witch trial element to the family. Samuel and James married Allen sisters (Hannah and Sarah). Their sister Martha Allen Carrier was hung as a witch. There are rumors that Martha's husband, Thomas Carrier was actually the fellow who executed Charles I. Absolutely no proof... the reason people make this link is that he was very tall and stood out! and I assume that Morgan or whoever the fellow was who did the deed was also very tall. there are many many people related to Nicholas Holt....but no one has been able to find out anything about his ancesters. I have seen postings suggesting that people have checked records in Romsey and can not find him there. So maybe he came to Romsey from somewhere else. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bheevans Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There were a ton of Holts living in Rochdale, Lancashire, England in the 1600's. My Holt relatives left Rochdale in 1646 for St, Mary's, Maryland. Your Nichlas may be related. I do not know of any other brothers or sisters of my ancester. My ancesters family supported the Royalist against Cromwell. They lost. My ancester resigned from an office which he was force to do by Cromwell officials in 1646. If your relative was a member of the same family, he might feel the need to leave (ONLY THEORY). In a 1633 census of men of military age in the Rochdale area, there were nine Robert Holts and six John Holts. Rochdale is northeast of Manchester near Oldham. You talked about DNA. My relatives would be the Robert - Richard Holt line. A few descendants have had their DNA matched to this line. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pepperdog_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holt/3177.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did your Nicholas Holt arrive in Massachusetts around 1631? Or are you talking about a Nicholas Holt living in Kentucky much later? I had my father participate in the DNA project and found a DNA match to a Holt in TN, but I can not find any of Nicholas's children (he settled in Andover MA around 1645 or so) who headed south.... so I am trying to figure out if they are decendents of my Nicholas or perhaps another Holt who could be a brother or cousin of Nicholas. There are several Holts who came south around the same time as Nicholas. DNA of Randall Holt who came to VA is not an exact match with my Nicholas... so I thought perhaps there is another Holt or perhaps decendants of Nicholas came south. Have any of your Holt males participated in any of the DNA projects? If not you should check out the national geographic genome project. I did this with my parents and it is really interesting. One thing I have learned is that my Nicholas Holt is connected to Holts living in Lancashire England. How they are connected I may never know...but it is still interesting. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.