Pam........did you get a copy of the Holt chart yet. Sure would like to see it or have a copy also. do let me know okay?? Cuz......Fran

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/2087 Message Board Post: I am searching for John Egan Holt Sr. Born about 1917-18 in Fulton County Kentucky. He served in the military and was for a time stationed in Washington DC around 1945. After his discharge, he moved to Oregon for a few years. From there, his whereabouts is unknown.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Knappen Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/44.1010.1290.1323 Message Board Post: I may be a relative... I am down from the Mason side but I have the Lineage from Jerimiah Knappen (Knapen?) If you are intrested please contact me!

Sue, I was told several years ago (I believe it was from someone on this list) that the John W HOLT I have been researching- his possible parents were Thomas HOLT and Ann Arrington. I too have found errors in several family history's that I have read (including Boddie's) concerning this family including Abigail Holt's family history as well. (I found my direct line in her book with several errors). I have been searching for the parents of John W HOLT born 1769, (in his own writing, of York Co, VA) and have not come away with much success, but many confusing possibilities! Many have stated that John W was born in Surry Co as well, so that has added to my confusion! Do you or anyone know of a family history, DAR records, will, any record that might exist (at SLC or anywhere else for that matter) documenting John W HOLT'S lineage? Hey, I've been "stuck" on this one for years, and I haven't given up yet!!! Thanks in advance for any assistance. Flora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Thompson" <sthomps61@alltel.net> To: <HOLT-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [HOLT-L] The name "IRBY", christian or surname > Betty: > > There has always been a mystery about the parents of Hiram Holt. When > Boddie published his research on the Holt line, his information for the > family unit of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt contains many errors. > > One of the biggest errors is the marriage of Temperance Holt to Jesse Holt, > her cousin. Temperance was the daughter of Joseph Holt; Jesse was the son > of James Holt. Jesse Holt left Halifax County with his father before any of > Temperance's children were born and Jesse Holt had already married Elizabeth > Davis before he left North Carolina. James Holt's history and genealogy is > very well documented by the family since his grandson, James, the son of > Jesse, migrated to Utah with the LDS church. Jesse Holt IS NOT the father > of Temperance Holt's children. There is a published narrative from James > Holt, the son of Jesse, where he documents his ancestry to his grandfather, > James Holt. For those who are researching the James Holt line (son of > Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt), there is a wealth of information available > through the Utah Historical Society on this family unit. I only wish the > Halifax County Holts who remained in NC had as much documentation!!!! > > I could be wrong but I don't believe anyone has proof concerning the father > of Temperance Holt's children before she married James Parker. There is a > court order as below: > > Halifax Court Minute Docket beg. 1865, page 40: > > "May term 1866 J.W. Holt and others to The Court: > > On motion it is ordered by the Court that Andrew Gunter, Braswell Britt, > Wright Wiley and W. K. Pittman be appointed commissioners to divide the > lands described in the petition into equal parts or shares, and to allot to > each of the petitioners J.W. Holt, Eaton Holt and James H. Parker one share > ??? (couldn't read name) Parker and wife Nancy one share , and to W. H., > Hiram and Ann Marie Holt (Wallace) one share, and if no division, to sell, > etc." > > I've requested a copy of this actual petition from Halifax County but have > not received it yet but this action confirms what I have always believed > from other documents, that Hiram Holt, Sr., was the son of Temperance Holt > and this unknown father. In the petition above, the court is ordering a > division into five equal parts: One to J. W. Holt, one to Eaton Holt, one > to James H. Parker, one to Nancy Holt Parker (wife of James Parker - not the > James H. Parker listed already) and one share to the children of Hiram Holt > (who was deceased by this time): William Henry, Hiram, Jr., and Ann Marie > Holt Wallace. Except for Hilby and Hillard Holt, this is a division of land > amongst Temperance Holt Parker's children, including Hiram, identified by > Boddie as her children under Jesse Holt. Frankly, I think these children > were illegitimate children of a Neville father and there is some indication > of that from how Hiram named his first son, Reddin N. Holt, matching Reddin > Holt, the son or brother of Jesse Neville. Anyway, I'm trying to research > this further but from the above court order, the MOST apparent proof of > Hiram's mother is that she was Temperance Holt. Hiram's wife was Wealthy > Ann Irby. That's where the Irby comes into my line. > > I've seen postings to the Holt list that indicate Hiram was the child of > Mary "Polly" Holt and an unknown Holt father based on the above court order > but there is simply no connection between Mary "Polly" Holt's children and > those mentioned in this action except, perhaps, that they were cousins. > > If anyone has the above court petition, I wish they would publish it on the > Holt list. > > Sue Thompson > sthomps61@alltell.net > > ______________________________

Hi, Because of @Home's demise, Comcast local has switched all it's customers to it's own server. Therefore, I have a new e-mail address. It is effective imediately. See below.......... suzzie22@home.com.....no good.... <<<<Mail to:>>>>>>> suzzie22@comcast.net Thanks, Margaret

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2086 Message Board Post: I have found a photo of Edward Benton Holt date and place taken unknown. Inscription of the back states, "Father of Edward Huston Holt". To view this photo please visit, http://www.yourfamilyfinds.com We hope we can assist with your family genealogy.

Betty: There has always been a mystery about the parents of Hiram Holt. When Boddie published his research on the Holt line, his information for the family unit of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt contains many errors. One of the biggest errors is the marriage of Temperance Holt to Jesse Holt, her cousin. Temperance was the daughter of Joseph Holt; Jesse was the son of James Holt. Jesse Holt left Halifax County with his father before any of Temperance's children were born and Jesse Holt had already married Elizabeth Davis before he left North Carolina. James Holt's history and genealogy is very well documented by the family since his grandson, James, the son of Jesse, migrated to Utah with the LDS church. Jesse Holt IS NOT the father of Temperance Holt's children. There is a published narrative from James Holt, the son of Jesse, where he documents his ancestry to his grandfather, James Holt. For those who are researching the James Holt line (son of Thomas and Ann Arrington Holt), there is a wealth of information available through the Utah Historical Society on this family unit. I only wish the Halifax County Holts who remained in NC had as much documentation!!!! I could be wrong but I don't believe anyone has proof concerning the father of Temperance Holt's children before she married James Parker. There is a court order as below: Halifax Court Minute Docket beg. 1865, page 40: "May term 1866 J.W. Holt and others to The Court: On motion it is ordered by the Court that Andrew Gunter, Braswell Britt, Wright Wiley and W. K. Pittman be appointed commissioners to divide the lands described in the petition into equal parts or shares, and to allot to each of the petitioners J.W. Holt, Eaton Holt and James H. Parker one share ??? (couldn't read name) Parker and wife Nancy one share , and to W. H., Hiram and Ann Marie Holt (Wallace) one share, and if no division, to sell, etc." I've requested a copy of this actual petition from Halifax County but have not received it yet but this action confirms what I have always believed from other documents, that Hiram Holt, Sr., was the son of Temperance Holt and this unknown father. In the petition above, the court is ordering a division into five equal parts: One to J. W. Holt, one to Eaton Holt, one to James H. Parker, one to Nancy Holt Parker (wife of James Parker - not the James H. Parker listed already) and one share to the children of Hiram Holt (who was deceased by this time): William Henry, Hiram, Jr., and Ann Marie Holt Wallace. Except for Hilby and Hillard Holt, this is a division of land amongst Temperance Holt Parker's children, including Hiram, identified by Boddie as her children under Jesse Holt. Frankly, I think these children were illegitimate children of a Neville father and there is some indication of that from how Hiram named his first son, Reddin N. Holt, matching Reddin Holt, the son or brother of Jesse Neville. Anyway, I'm trying to research this further but from the above court order, the MOST apparent proof of Hiram's mother is that she was Temperance Holt. Hiram's wife was Wealthy Ann Irby. That's where the Irby comes into my line. I've seen postings to the Holt list that indicate Hiram was the child of Mary "Polly" Holt and an unknown Holt father based on the above court order but there is simply no connection between Mary "Polly" Holt's children and those mentioned in this action except, perhaps, that they were cousins. If anyone has the above court petition, I wish they would publish it on the Holt list. Sue Thompson sthomps61@alltell.net

Another forward from Germanna_Colonies -List....same thread. Betty Faye >X-From_: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L-request@rootsweb.com Fri Feb 22 09:47:50 2002 >Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 07:42:10 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: robertnicholson@cox-internet.com Fri Feb 22 07:42:09 2002 >From: "Robert Nicholson" <robertnicholson@cox-internet.com> >Old-To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Holt Ancestry 1717 immigrant to Va. >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 08:42:03 -0600 >X-Priority: 3 >To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/14966 >X-Loop: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L-request@rootsweb.com > >To the best of my knowledge, their names do not appear on any passenger list >that is online. Rev. Klug would have to take the oath of allegiance on >arrival but Michael Holt presumably took that oath when he first arrived in >1717. > >Also, I have not been able to find Michael Smith or Rev. Stoever on any >passenger list although the paperwork associated with Rev. Stoever's death >should include the name of the ship on which he died. > >Robert Nicholson > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <AMielke195@aol.com> >To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:55 AM >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Holt Ancestry 1717 immigrant to Va. > > >> In a message dated 2/21/2002 8:36:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, >> robertnicholson@cox-internet.com writes: >> >> << Michael Holt returned to America on the same ship that brought Rev. >Klug. >> >> >> >> WHAT SHIP WAS THAT? a CRUCIAL QUESTION for both ...and their families! >> >> Andreas >> >> (more comments and questions later) >> >> >> >> ==== GERMANNA_COLONIES Mailing List ==== >> You can contact the List Manager at: > > georgedurman@home.com >> > > > > > > >

>>Sue Thompson wrote:James Holt is also in my Holt line in Halifax County. He >would have been a cousin to my Hiram's mother." Sue, Thank you sooooo much for your reply! and the genealogy! Hiram's FATHER would have to be the relationship, wouldn't he?..if his MOTHER is the relative his surname would not be HOLT ...or did she married another HOLT? Could you send me the details of Hiram's Family Tree? And OOPS!! I apologize for sending the same inquiry to the IRBY-List again!..I've had 'puter problems for a week and could not see my emails! I'm forwarding your IRBY email to the HOLT-L as there are others who are interested in Hiram's link .. Again thank you and ignore the repeat inquiry. >Wealthy Ann Irby married Hiram Holt in Halifax County, NC, about 1838. This >is my direct line and I have the following information on Wealthy's Irby >line: > >Descendants of Edmund Irby > > 1 Edmund Irby >..... 2 William Irby b: 1767 d: 1851 in Halifax County, NC >............. 3 William Irby, Jr. >............. 3 Edmund Irby II b: January 14, 1796 >................. +Betsey Winters m: June 1, 1818 in Halifax Co., NC >............. 3 Calvin Irby b: 1805 >............. 3 Thomas Irby b: 1806 >............. 3 Wealthy Ann Irby b: 1807 in Halifax County, NC d: 1875 >................. +Hiram Holt b: 1807 in Halifax County, NC d: 1865 m: 1838 >..................... 4 Unknown Holt b: 1839 >..................... 4 William Henry Holt b: 1844 d: October 14, 1889 in >Halifax Co., NC >..................... 4 Redmond N. Holt b: 1845 in Halifax Co., NC d: 1862 >in Halifax Co., NC >..................... 4 Hiram Holt, Jr. b: 1848 in Halifax Co., NC d: June >9, 1912 in Weldon, NC >..................... 4 Ann Maria Austin Holt b: June 12, 1850 in Halifax >County, NC d: August 14, 1924 in Weldon, NC >......................... +James Henry Wallace b: January 1, 1846 in North >Carolina d: February 22, 1888 in Virginia m: January 1, 1878 >............. 3 Martha "Pat" Irby b: 1810 >................. +Jones Lee m: 1839 >............. 3 Harrison Irby b: 1812 >............. 3 Harriet Irby b: 1815 >................. +Washington Mabry m: September 8, 1841 in Halifax Co., >NC >............. 3 Rebecca Irby b: 1818 >................. +Lemuel Tucker m: January 19, 1859 in Halifax Co., NC > > >I don't know if this will help you with your William Irby but it is the same >time period. James Holt is also in my Holt line in Halifax County. He >would have been a cousin to my Hiram's mother. > >Sue Thompson > > > >==== HOLT Mailing List ==== > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- Betty Faye (Double first name...ole Suth'n custom) Researching Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, TURNER, TUCKER, RUTHERFORD; Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER; Also: PLUMMER

I'm sending this on as I'm not sure how many HOLT folks subscribe to the GERMANNA_COLONIES-List: Betty Faye >X-From_: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L-request@rootsweb.com Thu Feb 21 20:39:46 2002 >Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:33:13 -0700 >X-Original-Sender: robertnicholson@cox-internet.com Thu Feb 21 18:33:12 2002 >From: "Robert Nicholson" <robertnicholson@cox-internet.com> >Old-To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Holt Ancestry 1717 immigrant to Va. >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 19:27:20 -0600 >X-Priority: 3 >To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-From: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >X-Mailing-List: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/14958 >X-Loop: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com >Resent-Sender: GERMANNA_COLONIES-L-request@rootsweb.com > >Michael Holt returned to America on the same ship that brought Rev. Klug. >Michael Smith and Rev. Stoever returned later with Rev. Stoever dying on the >return voyage and being buried at sea. Rev. Stoever's will was handled in >Philadelphia and is online (but I don't remember where). The exact cause of >the ill will between Michael Holt and Rev. Stoever is not known at the >present time to the best of my knowledge. But apparently Michael Holt was >the only one involved in hiring Rev. Klug. Some researchers have suggested >that Rev. Stoever intended for his son to succeed him at Hebron Church and >objected to Rev. Klug on that basis. But in the final analysis, Rev. Klug >served as the pastor at Hebron Church for almost 25 years. And to add to >the story, one of Michael Holt's sons married the young widow of Rev. >Stoever. > >A search of the Holt list archives should produce additional information on >this matter. > >Robert Nicholson (descendant of Michael Holt) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <AMielke195@aol.com> >To: <GERMANNA_COLONIES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 12:35 PM >Subject: Re: [GERMANNA] Holt Ancestry 1717 immigrant to Va. > > >> Do the Holts have any connection with Danzig (Gdansk) or Elbing.....? >Where, >> in 1736, Holt/Schmidt and Stoever discovered and hired G. S. Klug as >> assistant pastor? Klug is first documented in America 1739 -- >> When was Michael Holt back in America? >> >> In connection with this I would like to hear from anyone in whose early >> family a warden or trustee of the church is mentioned, i.e., before 1776 >for >> which we have the original Church Order [written by Rev. Franck] >> >> Andreas >> >> >> ==== GERMANNA_COLONIES Mailing List ==== >> You can contact the List Manager at: >> georgedurman@home.com >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> > > > >==== GERMANNA_COLONIES Mailing List ==== >You can contact the List Manager at: >georgedurman@home.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy >records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Is anyone else researching the family of Herod/Harrod/Hirrad/Harod Holt and wife Martha Salmon?? 1820 Census lists them in Cannon Co., TN. Believe them to be parents of Thomas Holt b. c 1820 who married Elizabeth Ring, 1842, Cannon Co. Elizabeth was dau. of William Ring and Mary Ann Matthews, also of Cannon Co. -- One Hirrad (var. spellings!) Holt listed on same Census pg. as William Ring. Believe this Harrod/Herod/etc. to be brother to Fielding Holt who mar. Fanny Parsley. Thomas Holt/Elizabeth Ring had four children (according to Census records) - three sons and one dau. Dau. Mary Ann mar. James Knox Polk Smith -- and moved to Ozark Co., MO - in the same general area as descendants of Fielding Holt/Fanny Parsley. Mary Ann Holt/James K.P. Smith later moved to Rock Island, Colorado Co., Texas, both bur. Myrtle Cemetery there. Sue

Holt, Ellen to Josiah Fannan 07 Jun 1880 No Return

Thanks Robert for the posting from James Holt. It doesn't apply to my HOLT family but I hope you have helped someone else. I am looking for the parents of ELISHA HOLT, born about 1802 in NC. Sometime before 1827 he migrated into GA. Some think he came as a child with his parents but he could have come as a young man. He married Parthenia Bustre in Henry Co, GA 1827 and lived out his life in Fayette and Clayton Counties. He left a Will. Much is known about him after his marriage but nothing before then. Seeking to exchange information with anyone working on Elisha Holt. He may be son of either Arrington or Thomas Holt (thought to be brothers) who lived in Washington Co, GA in early 1800s. Court House fires have destroyed records. Judy Webb

I am looking for information on the following Holts listed on the 1840 Whitley County, KY census: Page 194 Holt, Robert 1 male 20-30 yrs, 1 female under 5, 1 female 15-20 Holt, John 1 male under 5, 1 male 20-30, 1 female under 5, 1 female 20-30 Page 195 Holt, Thomas 1 male under 5, 1 male 5-10, 1 male 10-15, 1 male 50-60, 1 female 5-10, 2 females 10-15, 1 female 40-50 Page 205 Holt, Elizabeth 1 female 70-80 I believe the above Robert Holt is my ggg-grandfather. Is this Elizabeth Holt the widow of Drury Holt? Any and all information on the above Holts or any of their ancestors and descendants is greatly appreciated. Rhonda Shipley rshipley58@bscn.com http://www.bscn.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2085 Message Board Post: I am seeking living relatives of EMC James W. Holt, Jr., who was lost at sea in 1943 aboard the US Submarine Capelin. My great uncle, Loyle Keaton, was also a crewmember. I am interested in collecting stories from surviving family members for a possible book project. If you are interested in participating, please contact me. Thank you.

Copy of the Original Affidavit of J.B. Holt, J.W. Drummond - Lawyer State of Tennessee } Knox County } AFFIDAVIT of James Buchanan Holt The said affiant being first duly sworn deposes and says: My name is James Buchanan Holt, but I am usually known as James Holt. I was born near Buchanan's Bridge in Pittsylvania County, in the State of Virginia, United States of America, on the 19th day of July, in the year 1798, and will be one hundred and one (101) years old on the 19th day of next July, being the 19th day of July, 1899. My father was Nathaniel Holt and he married Lucinda Carter, of Pittsylvania County, or Culpepper County, or Botetourt County, Virginia, and she was my mother. My father died in Jackson County, Kentucky, some time since the Civil War began in 1861, aged about one hundred years. My father's father was John Holt, who came from England to Virginia at an early day, and he was the son of a noted man in England, who was said to be very wealthy. My grandfather, John Holt, bought a farm of 400 acres in Rockingham County, North Carolina, and shortly before his death, received the money from England to pay for this farm. His wife was a Miss Cagely. She survived him many years, and my father's family lived with her. My grandfather, John Holt, was about fifty years old and his wife about twenty years old when they married. My father, Nathaniel Holt, went into the United States Army in the War of 1812, while he was living with my grandmother on the 400 acre farm in Rockingham County, North Carolina, and my grandmother died while he was in the army. I was about fourteen years old, and went with my father to Charleston, South Carolina, where his command then was. My grandfather, John Holt, had children as follows: Edward, John, James, Isaac, Betsy (who married a man names Amos), Polly (who married Isham Sharpe and went to Kentucky), Celia (who married a man named O'Dell and lived and died in Virginia), Ann (who married a man named Carter, and lived and died in Virginia), and Nathaniel (who was my father). My recollection is that my father, Nathaniel Holt, was the youngest of my grandfather's children. I do not know when my grandfather, John Holt, died and do not remember that I ever saw him, but I knew his wife and remember her well. My father was born and reared in Virginia - probably in Pittsylvania County - and married Lucinda Carter (my mother). He had three children born in Pittsylvania County, Virginia, as follows: Nancy (who married a man named Spivey), William and James Buchanan (myself). Another child, Ann (who then moved to Henry County, Virginia, and married Rueben Keith) was born in Henry County. My father then moved to Rockingham County, North Carolina, just over the line and across the river and had five more children born at that place, to wit: Ruth, Eliza, Stephen, Nathaniel and Peggy. Ruth married Halcomb, Eliza married Hampton; Stephen married Ramsey and died in North Carolina; Peggy married a Sawyers and now lives in North Carolina. It has been the understanding in our family ever since I can recollect, that my grandfather, John Holt, was the son of a noted man in England and that a large fortune in England belonged to us and that we would get it at the proper time. And further affiant saith not. The foregoing affidavit was subscribed and sworn to by James Buchanan Holt, with whom I am personally acquainted, before me. A Notary Public in and for Knox County, Tennessee, duly commissioned and qualified, and I certify that my commission is dated _____ and expires _____. Witness my hand and official seal at office in Knoxville, Tennessee, this the 6th day of February, 1899.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/440.538.780.792.795.797 Message Board Post: anything new on your Henry? I did have a response telling me where Henry Garret Holt in my family is buried in Texas.M

I have a copy of a marriage license of Thomas D. Holt to Lillian Allen(?)in 1916. Anyone connected to this family is welcome to it if they can tell me whose family he belongs to. Helene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2084 Message Board Post: Can anyone tell me the address of Rhonda Shipley's web site? I'm sure I was there once, but now I can't find it. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/2068.1 Message Board Post: I don't know much, but my fathers people came out of Goldsboro & Roxboro, North Carolina. Grandmother name was Grazilla Holt (she was full blooded Cherokee). I will get some more info. and re-post...