I followed the link and it's really very interesting what the Son's of Liberty (aka O.R.M.) did and continue to do. Here is a small portion of the information from the page: The fraternity traces its origins back to 1765 and was originally known as the Sons of Liberty. These patriots concealed their identities and worked "underground" to help establish freedom and liberty in the early Colonies. They patterned themselves after the great Iroquois Confederacy and its democratic governing body. Their system, with elected representatives to govern tribal councils, had been in existence for several centuries. From the url: http://www.redmen.org/ It is noteworthy that since 1991 the order has given over a million dollars towards alzheimers research! Sky / TX FAIR USE NOTICE: This page contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. This material is made available in an effort to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the U.S. Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. §107, the material in this message is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cdmhogan" <[email protected]> > These are fictitious "tribes" (clubs) of this benevolent social order, > see: > > http://www.redmen.org/

These are fictitious "tribes" (clubs) of this benevolent social order, see: http://www.redmen.org/ Best wishes, Cleo. > > I have a question about a cemetery inscription on the stone of my great > uncle's grave. He's William Henry HOLT b. 1847 d. 1925. Anyway, he's > buried in the Matoaca Cemetery in Chesterfield Co., VA. The inscription > reads as follows: > > William H. Holt > 1847 1925 > Kecoutan Tribe No. 37 > Imp'd. O.R.M. > > > Is that having to do with the Kecoughtan Tribe? I don't think we have > Native American blood but the inscription sounds funny to me. There are > several > others buried in this small plot that have that inscription also. Thanks > for > any information or ideas as to what this means. > > PS. This inscription was from a cemetery report done by the Works Progress > Administration. > > Gayle Rockelli in Maryland (Clemmons HOLT line, VA)

I recently read a book 'THE HORNET'S NEST' by (President) Jimmy Carter which concerns the American Revolution in the South, particularly the Carolinas and Georgia. It is classed as fiction but it certainly isn't a historical romance. There's lots of history of the fighting and I think all would enjoy it. Norma Nyberg Helene <[email protected]> wrote: The best I can tell Betty. KING'S American Dragoons were a Loyalist outfit.Loyalist Institute: Index to King's American Dragoons History Articles in Google gives lots on them. New York newspaper lists the article to recruit. Helene --------------------------------- Yahoo! Music Unlimited - Access over 1 million songs.Try it free.

Judy, Thank you very much for your response to my query on the ancestors of Henry Holt. It is entirely possible that Henry did indeed go back to either Ireland or England and acquire another family. The Holt name has been in use in Ireland since c1200 so he could indeed have been an Irishman. Circumstantial evidence and a lot of wishful thinking attach him to the family of Rowland Holt, brother of Sir John Holt, (Lord Chief Justice of the Kings Bench 1687-1709) both sons of Sir Thomas Holt. One line of thinking is that he sailed for England and him and the ship were lost at sea. As of now, there is no evidence of what happened to him . We do know that Dorcas Armstrong, and Irish Lass and Henry's wife, was in Lancaster, Lancaster County, Pa. in 1735 were she was hauled into court for beating up on her friends husband. The next I've been able to find either one of them was in 1738, when Dorcas, obviously a widow, married Arthur Buchanan in Gloucester, New Jersey, just across the river from Philadelphia. Again, thank you very much for responding, Bob Holt in Arizona

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/2748.1 Message Board Post: Hello Bob My great great grandfather was Henry Holt, a farmer in the Tullamore area of Kings County Ireland at the time of his daughter Mary's marriage in 1865. Perhaps your Henry Holt who disappeared in 1735 went back to Ireland and had another family. I know there were lots of Holt's with Irish backgrounds.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HOLT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2890.1.1 Message Board Post: Okay now I am really at a loss. It looks like Mark's birth mother used the first name, middle initial, age, and occupation of her previous husband for the info on the birth certificate and the last name of HOLT. Which means my husbands father could be any HOLT. So now I am thoroughly at a loss to try to figure this out.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HOLT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2890.1 Message Board Post: Okay I am relooking at the birth certificate and after closer inspection it list William D Holt as being 47 on January 10, 1964. It also lists him as being a floor layer for construction. Kellie

HOLT, Dora (Mrs.) , Star , 46 , MOSBY, James M. , Cowlington , 50 , 26 Nov. 1908 , 237

Holt, Allen , 24 , Wilburton , C.N., I.T., to Springfield, Clara , 16 , Wilburton , 20 Nov 1903 Holt, C.W. , 22 , Spiro , C.N., I.T., to Farris, Celia , 20 , Spiro , 08 Aug 1906 Holt, G.M. , 24 , Chambers , C.N., I.T., to Ains, Minda , 18 , Chambers , 23 Nov 1905 Holt, Izane Z. , 51 , Spiro , C.N., I.T., to Pennington, Delia Mrs. , 47 , Spiro , 09 Jun 1900 Holt, J. Reaves , 26 , St. Louis, MO , C.N., I.T., to Trigg, Bessie M. , 22 , McCurtain , 29 Dec 1904 Holt, J.C. , 38 , Blanco , C.N., I.T., to Baker, Ida Mrs. , 23 , Blanco , 15 Nov 1906 Holt, Jacob W. , 20 , Farmers , C.N., I.T., to Holt, Jane , 15 , Farmers , 29 Sep 1907 Holt, James , 33 , Enterprise, AR , C.N., I.T., to Peters, Sarah Mrs. , 34 , Oak Lodge , 26 Jun 1898 Holt, James W. , 21 , Talihina , C.N., I.T., to Chaney, Nettie , 16 , Talihina , 28 Feb 1895 Holt, John R. , 25 , Cowlington , C.N., I.T., to Moseby, Oma , 18 , Cowlington , 13 Oct 1907 Holt, John W. , 27 , Cowlington , C.N., I.T., to Armstead, Alice W. , 16 , Cowlington , 8 Jun 1894 Holt, Joseph William , 25 , So McAlester , C.N., I.T., to Wilson, Jesse Maud , 15 , So McAlester , 26 Aug 1894 Holt, M.D. , 23 , Hartshorne , C.N., I.T., to Christopher, Willie , 17 , Hartshorne , 22 Nov 1903 Holt, O.H. , 21 , Red Land , C.N., I.T., to Strange, Pearl , 18 , Ward , 4 Sep 1898 Holt, T.C. , 21 , Craig , C.N., I.T., to Hays, Lillie , 19 , Craig , 01 Sep 1907 Holt, Thomas , 54 , Hartshorne , C.N., I.T., to Darton, Dosia Mrs. , 35 , Hartshorne , 12 Feb 1898 Holt, Thomas E. , 51 , Hartshorne , C.N., I.T., to Hollins, Betty , 22 , Hartshorne , 25 Apr 1892 Holt, W.C. , 50 , Talihina , C.N., I.T., to Hunter, Martha Mrs. , 45 , Talihina , 27 Aug 1902 Holt, W.H. , 28 , So McAlester , C.N., I.T., to Matlock, Amanda , 20 , So McAlester , 18 Jan 1896 Holt, Zack , 43 , Hartshorne , C.N., I.T., to Bell, Effie , 20 , Hartshorne , 6 Jul 1899

Holt, Adeline , 22 , Sans Bois , C.N., I.T., to Kirk, J.G. , 25 , Sans Bois , 3 May 1896 Holt, Anna E. 15 Savanna Wilson, Robert S. 22 So McAlester 26 Aug 1894 Holt, Annie , 15 , Ward , C.N., I.T., to Hendrix, Thomas , 20 , Ward , 11 Nov 1896 Holt, Az , 15 , McAlester , C.N., I.T., to Munin, Robert , 35 , McAlester , 10 May 1891 Holt, Az 15 No Address Vaught, C.B. 35 No Address 3 May 1891 Holt, Belle 18 Talihina Walker, Harve 18 Talihina 25 Nov 1897 Holt, Bertha E. , 17 , Red Oak , C.N., I.T., to Keilum, Elijah J. , 32 , Red Oak , 06 Jul 1902 Holt, Charity , 21 , Bengal , C.N., I.T., to Holliday, W.M. , 21 , Bengal , C.N., I.T., 5 Aug 1895 Holt, Clemmie , 19 , Savanna , C.N., I.T., to Buckner, S.D. , 22 , Savanna , 30 Dec 1905 Holt, Effie , 14 , Star , C.N., I.T., to Mendenhall, J.W. , 27 , Star , 11 Aug 1907 Holt, Elizabeth , 21 , Durant , C.N., I.T., to Caldwell, Z. , 21 , Durant , 01 Apr 1901 Holt, Emma , 16 , Carbon , C.N., I.T., to Gibson, A.B. , 30 , Carbon , 18 Mar 1906 Holt, Emzna 18 Star Wilkins, Zeph 23 Panama 17 Jul 1903 Holt, Eugenia , 19 , Ward , C.N., I.T., to Abernathy, Boley , 26 , Sutter , 25 Mar 1900 Holt, Jane , 15 , Farmer , C.N., I.T., to Holt, Jacob W. , 20 , Farmer , 29 Sep 1907 Holt, Laura A. , 19 , Bokoshe , C.N., I.T., to Mann, Joseph M. , 28 , Bokoshe , 04 Feb 1903 Holt, Lillie , 17 , Durant , C.N., I.T., to Dudner, James , 20 , Durant , 17 Apr 1903 Holt, Lottie , 23 , Spiro , C.N., I.T., to Morris, David C. , 32 , Eufaula , ? ? 1901 Holt, Lula , 19 , Bokoshe , C.N., I.T., to Abernathy, Elbert , 21 , Bokoshe , 12 Jan 1898 Holt, Mary , 19 , No Address , C.N., I.T., to Lake, Warren , 32 , No Address , 19 Jan 1891 Holt, Mary A. , 16 , Blanco , C.N., I.T., to Blanton, Frank , 20 , Blanco , 25 Aug 1907 Holt, Mary F. 16 Thurman Vanterfloe, Henry 23 Thurman 15 Oct 1891 Holt, Mattie P. , 21 , Ward , C.N., I.T., to Knight, Isace L. , 20 , Ward , 17 Sep 1899 Holt, May , 38 , McAlester , C.N., I.T., to Brown, A.E. , 43 , McAlester , 12 Mar 1896 Holt, Myrtle , 18 , Red Oak , C.N., I.T., to Jones, Billy , 28 , Red Oak , 21 Mar 1895 Holt, Nancy 17 Hunton Williams, H.E. 17 Hunton 30 Dec 1900 Holt, Pearl , 17 , Bokoshe , C.N., I.T., to Edwards, Rosco H. , 23 , Bokoshe , 01 Oct 1902 Holt, Rhoda A. , 19 , McAlester , C.N., I.T., to Leeavitt, Osmon B. , 33 , McAlester , 31 Jul 1890 Holt, Rosa L. , 18 , Savanna , C.N., I.T., to Baker, J.T. , 24 , Savanna , 6 Aug 1894 Holt, Sallie , 17 , Tamaha , C.N., I.T., to Mills, William H. , 22 , Tamaha , 21 Jul 1895 Holt, Sarah O. , 17 , Talihina , C.N., I.T., to Roberts, Sam T. Jr. , 29 , Talihina , 23 Oct 1892 Holt, Sudie , 22 , Phillips , C.N., I.T., to Russell, John , 33 , Phillips , 28 Oct 1907

Kellie, please E-mail me ([email protected]) with the name of the Holt with the DNA match. I have lots of Holt info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HOLT, DAY Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2890 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on William D Holt b. approx. 1915 in Oklahoma and was in or around Stockton, California in 1963. My husband Mark was born and adopted on January 10, 1964 in Stockton his birth certificate lists William D Holt age 49 as his father and states he was born in Oklahoma. His mother was Effie Mae Day b. 21 Dec 1921 - d. 20 Feb 1997. Effie had told Mark another man was his father but recently we had the DNA test done through FamilyTreeDNA and Mark did not match that family but did match another HOLT member in the database so it looks like the name William D Holt is the accurate one. If anyone has information on this man or any member of his family please let us know. Thank you, Kellie

I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY ONE WITH INFO ABOUT HOLT FLORIDA . THANKS ROBERT HOLT

Thanks Helene and Joe. I found out early on in my research that there were many Hiram Holts. I don't know if my Hiram Holt goes back to Connecticut. Probably not. Here is what I know about my Hiram Holt, Sr.: ************************************************************ Hiram Holt (b. 1806, d. before 1866) m. (1) Sally, m. (2) abt 1838 Wealthy Ann Irby (b. 1806, d. about 1875), daughter of William Irby (b. 1767, d. 1851) Wealthy Ann Irby had previously been married to _____ Hall, according to estate settlement of Thomas Irby. Hiram Holt Sr. died intestate and his estate, valued at $2500 was administered by Richard B. Parker. Parker died 1869 and W. H. Shields was named administrator. Conclusion from circumstantial evidence is that Hiram Holt probably was the son of Temperance Holt of Halifax Co, NC (Joseph Holt-->Thomas Holt-->Thomas Holt-->William Holt-->Randall Holt of Hoggs Island, VA). Hiram Holt Sr.'s children W.H., Hiram Jr., and Ann Mariah were named in an 1866 division of property in Halifax Co, NC, along with Temperance Holt's other known children. Also, my grandmother named one of her daughters Tempie Holt Harrison, and Aunt Tempie was always told she was named after her great grandmother Temperance Holt. Hiram Holt, Sr. and Temperance Holt's other children lived within a few miles of each other in Halifax Co, NC. Richard B. Parker was administrator of the estate of Hiram Holt Sr. about 1865. Richard B. Parker was the husband of Nancy Holt, daughter of Temperance Holt. It has been concluded recently that all of Temperance Holt's HOLT children were illegitimate. Only the last child, James Harvey Parker, product of her marriage to Joseph Parker, was legitimate. ************************************************************* 1840 Halifax Co, NC Holt, Hiram, head of household 1 male 30-40 (Hiram Holt, age 34) 1 female 30-40 (wife Wealthy Ann Irby, age 35) (Hiram Holt Sr. and Wealthy Ann Irby married about 1838) 1 female under 5 (who is this?) 1 free colored male 24-36 1 free colored female 10-24 1 free colored female 56-100 1850 Halifax Co, NC -- (Is this the right Hiram? Family members do not match up.) Holt, Hyram, age 43, male, farmer, $500 Holt, Sally, age 37, female, X in the race or color field (is this Wealthy Ann?) Holt, I. (hard to read), age 4, male Holt, John, age 3, male 1860 Halifax Co, NC Holt, Hiram, age 54, male, farmer, $2736, $3000 Holt, Wealthy, age 54, female, seamstress, cannot read or write Holt, William H., age 17, male Holt, Reddin N., age 15, male (died 1862, at age 17, of diphtheria) Holt, Hiram, age 12, male Holt, Ann M., age 10, female Halifax Court Minute Docket beg. 1865, page 40 "May term 1866 J.W. Holt and others to The Court On motion it is ordered by the Court that Andrew Gunter, Braswell Britt, Wright Willey & W.K Pittman and Asa Harnell be appointed commissioners to divide the lands described in the petition into six equal parts or shares, and to allot to each of the petitioners J.W. Holt, Eaton Holt and James H. Parker one share, James B. Parker and wife Nancy one share, and to W.H., Hiram and Anna / Marie Holt (Wallace) one share, and if an equitable division cannot be achieved... NOTE: Division of property says six equal parts or shares: 1.J. W. Holt (Temperance Holt's son) 2.Eaton Holt (Temperance Holt's son) 3.James H. Parker (Temperance's son by Joseph Parker) 4.James B. Parker (husband of Nancy Holt who was Temperance's daughter) 5.--W. H., Hiram, and Anna/Marie Holt Wallace (Temperance Holt's grandchildren by Hiram Holt) 6. ? (Who received the 6th share? Hilliard Holt, Temperance Holt's son, died 1855. His children are not named. Temperance Holt's daughter, Hilby, was not named.) 1870 Halifax Co, NC Holt, Wealthy, age 60, female, farmer, $1800 Holt, Henry, age 26, male Holt, Hiram, age 20, male Holt, Ann M., age 18, female HALIFAX CO, NC, ADMINISTRATIONS, ETC: 96-(99) 8 Mar 1871 W. H. SHIELDS testified that HIRAM HOLT died interstate and R. B. PARKER former administrator is dead. Estate valued at $2500. Heirs: His children HENRY HOLT, HIRIAM HOLT, and (-----) HOLT, all of age. WM. H. SHIELDS. Appoint dbn. NOTE: Temperance Holt (b. 1780, d. 27 Jan 1852) did not marry her cousin, Jesse Holt, as widely reported in early genealogies. That Jesse A. Holt moved to Bartons Creek, Wilson Co, TN. It is probable that Temperance Holt had her Holt children with Jesse Neville, of Halifax Co, NC. There is, however, clear record of her marriage in May 1822 to Joseph Parker (b. 18 Jan 1761, d. 1835). Temperance Holt was 42 years old when she married Joseph Parker and 43 when she had their son James Harvey Parker.

I"M in the Holt line in Florida what can I do for you [email protected] wrote: I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANY ONE WITH INFO ABOUT HOLT FLORIDA . THANKS ROBERT HOLT ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx Wayne

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/2819.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: I see. I was hoping you were the Bill Holt I was looking for who definately is related. Another family member last had contact with him back in 2000. All I know is his name, that he is closely related and his old email address was [email protected] (which is no longer good). If anyone recongizes him from that address, please let me know. Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/Eej.2ACIB/2819.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Brad, No, my Grandfather William Andrew Holt lived in Campbell County Virginia all his life. What is interesting is that he had an uncle George Holt that I can not find out anything about after about 1870. He was living in Charlotte County Va. at the time. Bill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/Eej.2ACIB/2819.1.2 Message Board Post: I am related to a William Andew Holt, but I am not sure if it is the same as the person you noted because I have different parents for him (however, I am not certain that is correct). Here is what I have (below). Do you think it's the same person? Thanks. William Andrew Holt (son of George Holt and Nancy Jane) was born Sep 1881 in [city], [county], GA, USA, and died date unknown. He married Minnie A [Unknown] on Abt. 1903. More About William Andrew Holt: Residence 1: 1900, Township 7, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory.780 Residence 2: 1930, Hobart, Kiowa, Oklahoma.781 More About William Andrew Holt and Minnie A [Unknown]: Marriage: Abt. 1903 Children of William Andrew Holt and Minnie A [Unknown] are: Ernest W Holt, b. Abt. 1904, Asher, Pottawatomie, OK, USA, d. date unknown. Clara Holt, b. Abt. 1906, Asher, Pottawatomie, OK, USA, d. date unknown. Albert A Holt, b. Abt. 1910, Asher, Pottawatomie, OK, USA, d. date unknown. William R Holt. Minnie Holt. Eugene R Holt.

Yes you are correct. Can you provide me with info on Samuel & Mary. Donna

I looked for this, would you please send the url. Mary Ellis Warren Talley wrote: > > >> There is a Capt Samuel M Holt born 28 Nov 1862, died >> Jan 1924, Lamar County Texas. He had a brother of >> Paris, two brothers living in NC and a sister of >> Charleston NC. The family had lived in NC for >> generations. There more of this obit on TXGen Web >> Project Lamar County. >> gerald preas >> dallas tx > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > -- Mary Ellis County Coordinator Alamance NCGenWeb http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~mwellis/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncalaman/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncacgs/