I've been lurking here for awhile... My Holmes are known to have been in Ohio and Indiana. GEORGE HOLMES was born Abt. 1824 in England. He married JOHANA. Notes for GEORGE HOLMES: Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio 1880 Census (emumerated on June 11, 1880) George Holmes, age 56, Laborer, POB: England, FPOB: MPOB:England Johana Holmes, wife, age 48, housekeeping, POB: England, FPOB: England, MPOB: England George, Age 21, son, POB: Ireland, FPOB: Ireland, MPOB: Ireland ( NOTE: Family Bible says England) Charlotte, Age 17, daughter, dressmaker, POB: England, FPOB: England, MPOB: Ireland ***Place of Birth Info seems inconsistent*** Children of GEORGE HOLMES and JOHANA are: 2. i. GEORGE HOLMES, JR., b. December 24, 1858, Bollington Cheshire County, England; d. May 21, 1940. He married ELLEN ANN KIRKHAM November 04, 1880 in Toledo, Lucas County, Ohio, daughter of EDWARD KIRKHAM and EMMA ROBINSON. ii. CHARLOTTE HOLMES, b. Abt. 1863, England. -- Ann Roberts Managing Consultant Noumena Consulting Group http://www.noumena.com/