BELINDA Please e-mail me your e-mail address I can't find your address. I think it must be all these disorganized stacks of papers sitting around. I have it on my to do list for this weekend to organize the past 2 weeks papers I've collected. I wanted to let you know I got the packet what a great job. I am just in awe. Will I ever reach that point??? I did see in my glance thru when I got it this morning that you also have a WORDEN in your tree. My maternal grandmother was a Worden. She married a VAN VALKENBERG in OR. What do you think of that?