Hi Graham Any connection to these Holmes? I also have Holmes who married branches of my WHITEBREAD line in the Barrie area of ON,CAN in the 1840 to 1870 time frame. Cheers Barrie End-of-line individuals for GEORGE BARRIE ATKINSON ============================================================ 7 Oct 1998 Born/ Died/ Name Chr Bur Where Born/Chr ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ARCHBOLD,Ann c1785 1853 Brompton,YKS,ENG ATKINSON,John 1744 1820 YKS,ENG BALL,Ann-3740 1810 IRL BELL,Hannah 1749 1814 YKS,ENG BROXUP,Thomas c1780 LAN,ENG CARBUT,William c1820 1871 YKS,ENG CLAY,Elizabeth c1795 1854 DBY,ENG COATES,Samuel c1750 DBY,ENG DOMINY,Caroline c1827 1913 ENG FARRANT,Thomas c1805 ENG GATENBY,Jane c1828 1883 Carlton Miniott,YKS,ENG GAYNSFORD,Martha c1750 1777 KEN,ENG GREENHALGH,Jane c1780 LAN,ENG HAWE,Hannah c1830 YKS,ENG HOLMES,Samuel c1745 DBY,ENG PARKER,Joseph c1822 1891 ENG RAINS,John c1800 1872 DBY,ENG SMITH,Mary c1725 KEN,ENG WALL,Betty c1750 DBY,ENG WELLS,William c1800 ENG WHITEBREAD,John c1723 KEN,ENG (this table aligns using Courier font) FAMILY GROUP RECORD ============================================================ HUSBAND Richard HOLMES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BORN: PLACE: CHR.: PLACE: DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: MARR: 10 Feb 1767 PLACE: ,Youlgreave, Derbyshire, England FATHER: HOLMES MOTHER: ============================================================ WIFE Betty WALL ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BORN: PLACE: CHR.: PLACE: DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: has other marriage(s) FATHER: MOTHER: ============================================================ CHILDREN None known. ============================================================ FAMILY GROUP RECORD DOCUMENTATION ============================================================ HUSBAND - Richard HOLMES MAR: IGI, LDS 7325308 74. DEA: surmised to be before Betty Wall's marriage to Samll Holmes. This man is included because it appears that he married the same woman as Samll Holmes, but 22 months earlier. WIFE - Betty WALL MAR: 1. IGI, LDS 7325308 74. 2. IGI, LDS 7321405 99. Why would she be using her maiden name at her second marriage? Other marriages: 11 Dec 1768 Samll HOLMES ============================================================ G. B. (Barrie) ATKINSON 72 Erlandson Drive Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3K 0G8 e-mail: [email protected] Phone:(204) 832-2657 Date prepared: 16 Nov 1998 FAMILY GROUP RECORD ============================================================ HUSBAND Samll HOLMES ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BORN: PLACE: CHR.: PLACE: DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: MARR: 11 Dec 1768 PLACE: ,Youlgreave, Derbyshire, England FATHER: HOLMES MOTHER: ============================================================ WIFE Betty WALL ------------------------------------------------------------------------ BORN: PLACE: CHR.: PLACE: DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: has other marriage(s) FATHER: MOTHER: ============================================================ CHILDREN ============================================================ 1. NAME: Maria HOLMES F BORN: PLACE: CHR.: 18 Jan 1778 PLACE: ,Youlgreave, Derbyshire, England DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: John COATES MARR: 14 Apr 1803 PLACE: ,Youlgreave, Derbyshire, England ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2. NAME: William HOLMES M BORN: PLACE: CHR.: 25 Feb 1784 PLACE: ,Kirk Ireton, Derbyshire, England DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: MARR: PLACE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3. NAME: Mary HOLMES F BORN: PLACE: CHR.: 12 Jul 1789 PLACE: ,North Wingfield, Derbyshire, England DIED: PLACE: BUR.: PLACE: SPOUSE: MARR: PLACE: ============================================================ FAMILY GROUP RECORD DOCUMENTATION ============================================================ HUSBAND - Samll HOLMES MAR: IGI, LDS 7321405 99. CHILDREN: searched IGI in Derbyshire for all children of Samll(Samuel)/Betty. NAME: Samll is probably an abbreviation of Samuel. His name is Samuel in Daughter Mary's christening. For Holmes see also Hulme WIFE - Betty WALL MAR: 1. IGI, LDS 7325308 74. 2. IGI, LDS 7321405 99. Why would she be using her maiden name at her second marriage? Other marriages: 10 Feb 1767 Richard HOLMES CHILD 1 - Maria HOLMES CHR: IGI, LDS 7321405 61. MAR: IGI. RESIDENCE: 1806; Youlgreave, Derbyshire; son's christening. CHILD 2 - William HOLMES CHR: IGI, LDS C061302 2081. CHILD 3 - Mary HOLMES CHR: IGI, LDS C058752 5092. ============================================================ G. B. (Barrie) ATKINSON 72 Erlandson Drive Winnipeg, MB, Canada R3K 0G8 e-mail: [email protected] Phone:(204) 832-2657 Date prepared: 16 Nov 1998