Dear Steve and all Holmes researchers: The entire lineage for Abraham Lincoln, to include is line to Obadiah and Katherine (Hyde) HOLMES is included in Gary Boyd Roberts book: ANCESTORS OF AMERICAN PRESIDENTS- published by Carl Boyer 3rd, CA.-1981. This book has all presidents lineages , including their royal and Mayflower lines and other notable connections. It's an interesting book to check out and it will surprise one how many Presidents may be related to you through common ancestors- especially the early Virginians and New Englanders. It is available through NEHGS Sales office. Here is Abraham's line to Rev. Obadiah Holmes: Lydia HOLMES, d. aft 1693, mar ca. 1630 Capt John BOWNE; they resided at Gravesend, L.I. N.Y. with Jonathan (2) HOLMES and his family, while waiting for the Monmouth Patent deeds to be settled; then they all went to Monmouth co., East Jersy (now New Jersey). John BOWNE died 1684. Sarah BOWNE, b. Gravesend, LI, NY 27 Nov 1669, d. aft 1714, married Richard SALTER, b.? d. aft 1728. He was a lawyer, judge, and colony legislator at Monmouth. Their daughter, Hannah SALTER, b.?; d. ca 1727, married 24 Apr 1686 Mordecai LINCOLN, Jr. b. Hingham, MA 24 Apr 1686. Mordecai was b. at Amity, PA, 12 May 1736, d. bef 14 Sep 1714 at Monmouth, NJ. Their son John LINCOLN, b. 3 May 1716 at Freehold, N.J. d. prob Berks co., PA 5 Jul 1743, mar Nov 1788, at Linville Creek, Rockingham co., VA. to REBECCA FLOWERS, b. 30 Mar 1720; she was widow of James MORRIS, she died prob at Linville Creek, She died Jul 1806 prob at Linville Creek, VA. Their son, Abraham LINCOLN, b. Berks co., PA 13 May 1744, killed by indians at Jefferson co., KY prob May 1786, licensed to marry Bathsheba (HERRING?) at Augusta co, VA 9 Jul 1770; She was b. ca 1750, d. ca 1836. Their son, Thomas LINCOLN, b. 6 Jan 1778 at Rockingham co., VA, d. near Farmington, IL 17 Jan 1851, mar Nancy HANKS, b. Campbell co., VA 5 Feb 1784, d. near Gentryville, IN 5 Oct 1818. Their son, (President) Abraham LINCOLN, b. 12 Feb 1809 at Sinking Spring Farm, near Hodgenville, KY, d. washington, DC 15 Apr 1865, mar Mary Ann TODD, 4 Nov 1842, she was b. 13 Dec 1818 at Lexington, KY, d. 16 Jul 1882, Springfield, IL. Dorothy J. HORNUS, Florida <[email protected]> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Leeper <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 12:20 AM Subject: THE REV. OBADIAH HOLMES TO ABRAHAM LINCOLN >John, > >I am told that the connection is documented in a book by the name of "The >American Family of Obadiah Holmes" (1915) CS-71/H75/1915, by Colonel J. T. >HOLMES: available through the NEHGS Book Loan Circulating Library and on >microfiche/film at an LDS Family History Center. > >My information on Obadiah and Katherine (Hyde) Holmes was, however, obtained >primarily from hand written notes from a Holmes family Bible by Mary Leeper >Long (1866-1939), my great great aunt. I have her hand written notes. > >The daughter of Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes, Lidiah Holmes, married >Capt. John Browne in 1663. The daughter of John and Lidiah Holmes Brown, >Sarah Browne, married Richard Saltar. In about 1692, Richard and Sarah >Browne Saltar, had a daughter named Hannah Saltar, who married Mordecai >Lincoln before 1714. Mordecai and Hannah Saltar Lincoln had a son, who >became known as "Virginia" John Lincoln. This "Virginia" John Lincoln was >the father of the Abraham Lincoln who settled in Kentucky and was killed by >Indians there in the 1780s. This Abraham Lincoln was the grandfather of >Abraham Lincoln, the President of the United States. Therefore, the Rev. >Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes were the fifth great grandparents of >Abraham Lincoln. In addition, Hannah Browne Saltar had a son, named Edwin >Saltar, who lived in New Jersey and was said to be from the Holmes line. >Edwin Saltar wrote the Early Dutch Settlers and wrote an article on the Rev. >Obadiah Holmes which was printed in the Monmouth Democrat newspaper of >September 6, 1888. > >This is the connection as I have had it passed on to me. > >Steve Leeper >