Honor Cocklin wrote: >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:04:19 -0500 >From: "Honor Conklin" <hconklin@MAIL.NYSED.GOV> >To: HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <sa3f4ecf.001@MAIL.NYSED.GOV> >Subject: Re: [HOLMES] my holmes family > > Is Throckmorton only related to the Holmes in a later generation in >America? I am looking for any connections between the Conklins and the Holmes >regarding the glasshouse in Salem and possible connections between them in >England. I know that the Conklins and Southwick all came from >Kingswinford/Old Swinford. I am interested in the possibility that the >Throckmortons might have had something to do with a Conklin family member >removing to the Throggs Neck area and been one of those who fled to Flushing >after the Indian raid. Does anyone have a citation that lists the 35 who are >said to have first settled Throggs Neck? > >Honor You may want to find a copy of the following book. It provides a copy of the deed to the land at Throg's Neck. The following is extracted from The Holmes Tree: History and Genealogy of a Holmes Family and Allied Families Including Bradford, Calhoun, Clay, Parkinson, Pugh, Rainwater, Storm, and Throckmorton, by Charles A. Noel [Clossom Press, Apollo, PA, 1983, 210 pp., Call No. 929.273 H734n; FHC Film Area# 6125466]. As the complete text of the deed is provided in Noel, The Holmes Tree, perhaps the names of all 35 families are listed. In 1642, John Throckmorton bought land on Long Island from the Dutch West Indies Company to establish a settlement of thirty-five English families "within three leagues" of New Amsterdam. The Throg's Neck settlement was attacked by Indians in September 1643; only a few of the inhabitants escaped. Apparently, no members of the Throckmorton family were present during the attack. He sold his interest in the settlement in October 1653. A point of land extending into the Sound remains known as Throg's Neck is named after John Throckmorton; a toll bridge north of New York City bears this name. >From page 43 of "The American Family Of the Reverend Obadiah Holmes," by Col. J. T. Holmes, published 1915, I have extracted the following: Obadiah Holmes and two other men were granted 2 acres near Salem in an area called Peabody, in December 1639. They established what may have been the first glassworks in America, making window glass. For at least 300 hundred years, bits of their glass were occasionally found at their original site. At one time, the glassworks needed a subsidy from the town. Per pages 42-43, the partners with Obadiah Holmes are Ananias Conklin and Lawrence Southwick (a Quaker). The wife of Lawrence Southwick was Cassandra; they had a daughter named Provided and two sons, Josiah and David. These pages provide a fascinating story about Provided Southwick, of how the people refused to obey a Sheriff's order that she be sold into slavery for being a Quaker. On page 153 of this book, it is stated that Joseph Holmes, a descendant of Rev. Obadiah Holmes, met and conversed with a direct descendant of Ananias Conklin. This meeting took place at a meeting of the Sons of the American Revolution on (it appears) Dec. 1, 1914. The relationship between Throckmorton and Holmes comes through the Ashton Family (per the book of J. T. Holmes). Deliverance Throckmorton, the daughter of John and Rebecca Throckmorton, married James Ashton. Their daughter, Alice Ashton, married Sheriff Obadiah Holmes (1666-1745) and their grand daughter, Elizabeth Ashton, married Joseph Holmes (1698-1777), the son of Sheriff Obadiah and Alice Ashton Holmes. The information is voluminous and I would suggest that an interested person get hold of the two books I have referenced. Steve Leeper 9X great grandson of Rev. Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes and descendant of Throckmorton and Ashton