I guess I will post my Holmes again. Sarah A. Holmes, 1816-1886. SC>GA>FL This obituary was found by a very nice lady at the Lee County Genealogical Society. All she asked for her time was an optional donation. She spent a lot of time looking at old microfilms, and kept in touch by email the whole time. Thanks to her for finding such an old obituary. May 8, 2001: Received the following obituary from the Ft. Myers Press, Ft. Myers, Florida. "Mrs. Sarah A. Collier, departed this life, August 20th, 1886. She was 71 years old. She was the daughter of Rev. Wm. Holmes of the M. E. Church South. Forty-four years ago(should read 46) , she was married to Rev. W. E. Collier, whom she leaves with four children to mourn her departure. She joined the M. E. Church South when but 12 years old, in which she lived a consistent, faithful member to the day of death. She was ill about six weeks, during which time she suffered much, but trusting in Jesus she bore all with patience. She died without a struggle, or a frown, but with a pleasing smile, seemingly to say, it is all over, meet me in heaven. May the great head of the church, our heavenly father, bless and comfort the loved ones bereaved." A. E. Householder The Rev. Householder mentioned above was the pastor at Ft. Myers United Methodist Church in 1886. Rev. Dr. Collier, Sarah's husband, was pastor there in 1880-81. Sarah Holmes Collier also had a brother, F. A. Holmes, who wrote the obituary of the couple's daughter, Mary Collier McKay of Tampa. Her husband died only 2 months later. I have his obit from the ME Church. A memorial service was held at the church for him according to a Ft. Myers Press article. I have been unable to get further info about Rev. Holmes. I suspect he would have been in the Winnsboro, Fairfield area of SC about 1840, as that is where Dr. Collier was located by the church records in that year of their marriage. I believe he must have been a local pastor, as the church does not have records of a Wm. Holmes in that area. Still hoping to figure out the F. A. Holmes and find other descendants of this family. Sydney Cardner (the Sydney is female)