-----Original Message----- From: Rosalind Shaw <ros501@epson54.fsnet.co.uk> To: HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com <HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HOLMES] holmes family in north wales > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rosalind Shaw <ros501@epson54.fsnet.co.uk> >To: HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com <HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com> > >Subject: [HOLMES] holmes family in north wales > > >>I am looking for info on my HOLMES family who lived around >>Holywell,Wales. >>At the time of the 1881 census GEORGE and ELIZABETH HOLMES lived at Mostyn >>Road Packet House,Holywell,Flintshire.he was a broker .they had 3 children- >>WILLIAM.J,RACHEL.A and GEORGE.GEORGE SNR and ELIZABETH were believed to >>have died in their 30's so thechildren or at least Rachel went to stay with >>an aunt and uncle (HOLMES?) on a farm in Bagillt. >>GEORGE and ELIZABETH at some point ran a coaching business in Holywell. >>Rachel went on to marry CARACTACUS.N FIELD( known as NEVILLE!). >>any help would be great!!!! Ros >> >> > >

I do not have a Thomas, but this may be someone who is related. My husband's Holmes family is from Carthage MO. I am interested in obtaining information from the book you cited. Can you give me more information? Sarah Holmes Please reach me at: sholmes@teleport.com Thank you.

How do I unsub from the Holmes-L list? I've had not problem unsubbing from other rootsweb lists, but this one I can't unsub from. Thanks! Chris :)

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/78 Surname: Holmes, McLeod, O'Keefe, Armitage, Scharf ------------------------- Researching Holmes Family Tree - Illinois, Manitoba, Alberta, Ontario. Surnames include: Cohen, Coons, Gillis, Kerton, Lee, Loyst, Lyte, Mullins, Neath, Nootchtai, Roffey, Sagurski, Sanders, Vallincourt, Walberg. Siblings of Arthur Holmes dob 1928: Shirley 1931, Eileen Dorothy. Wife: Margaret Ellen Gillis (McLeod) dob 5/5/29. Parents of Margaret: William Stanley McLeod & Jessie Lillian O'Keefe. Children of Arthur and Margaret Holmes: Vernon Arthur dob 4/9/49, David dob 1951, Raymond dob 1952, Georgina Marie dob 3/4/53, Rose Ann dob 6/11/54, Mary Ellen dob 2/2/56, Colleen dob 2/17/57. All seven children adopted 1958. Vernon Arthur - Robert ?? David - Dave Sanders Raymond - John ?? Georgina Marie - Bette-Jean Marie Lee Rose Ann - Roseanne Colleen Lee Mary Ellen - Bonnie Sue Walberg Colleen - Judy Roffey Arthur Holmes remarried Nora ??. Had 2 children. Margaret Ellen Holmes remarried Douglas Scharf. Had 4 children. Link: The Holmes Family Tree URL: <http://www.geocities.com/sittereast/>

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My mother and I dug through pictures and added a ton of them to our myfamily.com website. If anyone has links to the Holmes family of Johnston, SC (Edgefield County) e-mail me and I will give you access to the site. The only thing we ask is that you be linked to these particular Holmes. ~Tracie Tracie Ditmore t_ditmore@yahoo.com

Does anyone have a THOMAS HOLMES that died March 14, 1879, Carthge Missouri. Just wondering because my Great Aunt gave me a copy from the "History of Jasper County" and it mentions that Thomas Holmes was killed by lightning, north of Carthage Missouri. Carolyn

I am searching for information on Hannah Holmes b.1744 d.1788 Ipswich MA, daughter of Robt.Holmes and Elizabeth Goodhue. Particularly any information on her marriage to (Alex) McKinsey or McKenzie and there son John b.1779. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Skip Mackenzie

Cynthia: I think you and I have corresponded before--probably about the Lynn family. It's good to hear from you again. Dennis Holmes was the first son of Walter and Ruth Springer Holmes. He was born in 1789 in South Carolina. They moved to Kentucky while he was a child. I'm not sure which state their second child Nancy was born in. My great grandfather Isaac was born 17 Nov 1797 in Tennessee while they were returning from a visit back to South Carolina. Their other children were James, born about 1802; John Walter, born about 1803; Rebecca, Nov 1805; Elizabeth, 1806; and Margaret, about 1808. Did you know that Frances 'Frankey' Holmes, who married James K. Lynn, was also a daughter of Dennis and Keziah, born about 1812? If you ever get any info on other children of Dennis and Keziah, please let me know. --Ted Holmes

Ted and Ted, Couldn't resist! :-) Anyway, noticed your postings and was wondering if you have any information on Dennis Holmes and wife Kisiah LNU. Their daughter Sarah Elizabeth b. 1817, married Edley Osburn Lynn in Morgan Co. AL. Their daughter, Elizabeth, married James Calvin Chambers July 19, 1863 in Morgan Co. They are my gg-grandparents. Sincerely, Cynthia Chandler East Peoria, IL

William HOLMES (born unknown, died July 1811 Cincinnati OH) and Elizabeth PATTERSON (died 10 March 1856 at age 69) had two known children: Louisa, born Aug 1809, and Norval, born Sept 1811. This family either lived in Pittsburgh PA or moved there at some point in the early 1800s. A John PATTERSON would be appointed Norval's guardian in 1828 according to Allegheny Co PA records but we do not know if he is any relation to Elizabeth. This is all that we have on William, Elizabeth, and Louisa, and we would like to know more. Martha

Hey list! Thought I'd try once again. I am looking for info on the family of William Holmes & Phoebe A. Stewart. I have absolutely no info on William. Can anyone help??? Here's what I know. Phoebe was born 8/4/1832 possibly but not absolutely in Blandford, MA. Her parents were James L. Stewart b3/17/1797 Blandford, MA, Anna Lathrop b6/2/1807 either West Milford or Bethlehem,CT. I have more info on James and Anna if needed. William married Phoebe 11/6/1859 but I don't know where :0(. That's all folks! Can anyone help??? I sure would love to have more info on this line for my database. Phoebe and my Great great Grandpa were sisters and the info I have is some that my Grandmother had written down at some point. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Sherry in Alabama

I am looking for connection to Mary (Matey) Holmes, b. 1859 Grandby Center, Oswego Co., NY m. to Gene (maybe (Eugene) Dixon, Father: William N Holmes born Ireland 12 Jun 1830 d. 23 Nov. 1889,. m. 6 Nov. 1853 in Mexico, Oswego Co. NY to Harriet Himes b. 2 Aug. 1829, d. 13 Jan, 1874. I know Mary lived in the Mt. Morris, MI area for a while.

To anyone shaking the Cumberland tree: I *THOUGHT* my ancestors came from the Lanercost area - North-East Cumberland, 15..30 km east of Carlisle... and I now have a fairly complete list of all Holmes families in that area going back to the late 1500's. Not finding a strong link anywhere in that lot (two possibles, both unlikely), I went for the last known female. That lead me to the Wetheral and Dalston area, which is 15..30 km south-east and south of Carlisle. I now have hundreds of names+dates for that general area (via the IGI), but the family ties are still pure conjecture. However... If anyone else is researching that area (not Alston - that's too far east!) I would love to hear from them. Maybe they can help me with links, and maybe I can help them with dates. But, PLEASE! I can't possibly answer queries on the lines of my g-g-g-father John was from Michigan, probably came over from England, have you got him? Two reasons: a. I have absolutely no info on EMIGRANTS TO the States (how dare you call them immigrants from England?!) ;>) b. I have about 50 Johns, Jo.s, Jhons, etc. Which one do you want??? Regards to all - Paul Holmes

http://www.rootsweb.com/~kywebste/obits/obits-25.htm Leamon HOLMES, 51, was killed instantly Saturday morning when a tractor he was operating overturned into a deep ditch, pinning him beneath it. The accident occurred on the Tobe WATSON farm, near Dixon. Surviving are the wife, Gertha; two daughters, Mrs. J.D. HILL and Mrs. Henry PUCKETT, Dixon; a son, Crystal Lee, of Clay; parents, Mr. and Mrs. Ben Holmes, Dixon rural route; brother, Robert, ot Dixon; and five grandchildren. Funeral services were held at 2:30 p.m. Sunday at the Dixon mission, with the Rev. Morris VANDIVER, of Henderson, officiating. Burial was in Little Zion cemetery. Providence Journal-Enterprise, Thursday, May 4, 1950. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raymond Douglas HOLMES, infant son of Mr. and Mrs. Raymond Holmes, Evansville, died in St. Mary's Hospital two hours after birth on Aug. 20. Survivors besides the parents are grandparents, Mr. and Mrs. Clarence Holmes, Dixon, and Mrs. and Mrs. G.W. GIBSON, near Dixon. Funeral and burial were in Evansville. Providence Journal-Enterprise, Thursday, August 28, 1947. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ted Your reference to Union County, SC interests me. My ancestor Jacob Holmes was in Union Co. Jacob, Jr. moved to Carroll Co. TN. Here is what I have on one generation of this family: FAMILY GROUP NO. 92 Husband's Full Name: Jacob HOLMES Death: 1804 Union South Carolina Father: Issac HOLMES Mother: Elizabeth PERRONEAU Wife's Full Name: Mary WHITE Father: WHITE Mother: Nancy Children: 1. Zabud HOLMES born before 1790 2. Mary HOLMES 3. William HOLMES born 1783 mar. to: Elizabeth died 1860 children all born in Tennessee: Abraham 1802, James 1807, Welcome William 1814, George Washington 1815, Benjamin, Jacob L., William - James moved to Arkansas. 4. Nancy HOLMES 5. Jacob HOLMES born ca 1798 South Carolina mar. to: Mary "Polly" JACKSON died before 1870 Carroll Tennessee 6. Amos HOLMES Jacob was called upon to witness several transactions in Union County. He was a witness to the will of James Gibbs, written 8 Aug. 1793 and proved by Jacob Holmes in Sept. 1794. He witnessed some land transactions for land on Fairfield Creek. The following transaction shows that Jacob Holmes was in the Spartanburg/Union County area for a long time and was apparently related to Isaac Holmes: Book S 1822-1825 p. 1-2 Sept 18 (or 20) 1794 for 20 £ S.C. money sold 30 ac on S. side of Pacolett R., border; Thomas Brown, part of grant Oct 15, 1784 Gov. Benjamin Guerard to Jacob Holmes wit. James Brown and Isaac Holmes. The following information from the Union Co. Courthouse from the Western Circuit Court Equity Record: "Zabud Holmes, son of Jacob Holmes, deceased, a minor above the age of 14, petitioned that his mother, Mary Holmes, be appointed his guardian. Petition granted upon Mary giving bond and security to the commissioner. Mary Holmes, widow of Jacob Holmes, prayed that she be appointed guardian of the persons and property of her five minor children, viz, Mary, William, Nancy, Jacob and Amos. Petition granted, Mary giving security to the commissioner. Court of Equity to be holden at Union Court House for the United Districts of Spartanburg, Union, York and Chester on 29 February 1804." South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research, V. 11 No. 4, Fall 1979, p. 197. Mary must be the daughter of Nancy White. We have the following from Will Book B p. 61: Will of Nancy White to my daughter Nancy one young mare, half of my cattle, etc., to my son William W. White, ... Son Coleman ... Daughter Polly Holmes ... Son Isaac ... daughter Hannah Stribling...daughter Susan Hart ...daughter Sarah McCollum 13 Nov 1820 Jacob Holmes, Jr. was my 3x great grandfather. His wife, Mary "Polly" Jackson, daughter of Mark Jackson was also from Union Co. SC. Ted Stout teds@hgea.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted R. Holmes <THolmesSr@compuserve.com> To: <HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 11:11 AM Subject: [HOLMES] James L. Holmes, AL, MS > Ric, your James L. Holmes appears to have been my great-uncle. I haven't > been able to prove conclusively that he is the Uncle Jim, but other > researchers in the family think he is and the circumstances regarding your > James seem to match our family legends. > > He was an elder brother of my grandfather Isaac Reeves Holmes. Their > parents were Isaac Holmes and Sarah 'Sally' Lynn. Isaac was born 17 Nov > 1797 in Tennessee, the second son of Walter Holmes and Ruth Springer, who > actually were residents of Kentucky. Sarah Lynn was born 19 Feb 1805 in > Bumcombe Co., NC, daughter of Revolutionary War veteran James Lynn Jr. and > Margaret White. Sarah died 9 June 1871 and Isaac died 1 Nov 1874. Both are > buried at Beech Creek Baptist Church Old Cemetery in Winn Parish, LA. > > Children of Isaac and Sarah, with dates and places of birth, were: > Mary Ann Holmes Holly--2 Dec 1821, Alabama > J. W. 'Bird' Holmes--20 Nov 1823, Morgan Co., AL > James L. Holmes--About 1826, Morgan Co., AL > Hugh White Holmes--25 Aug 1830, Cullman Co., AL > William Holmes-- About 1832, Morgan Co., AL > Margaret Ann Holmes Williams--1836, Morgan Co., AL > Lavinia A. Holmes Smith--Jun 1839, Morgan Co., AL > Sarah Ruth Holmes Gray--4 April 1840, Morgan Co., AL > Ellen Jane Holmes--March 1842, Morgan Co., AL > Ruth S. Holmes Guyton-- 7 Sep 1844, Itawamba Co., MS > Isaac Reeves Holmes-- 16 Nov 1847, Itawamba Co., MS > > Bird, White and William migrated to Louisiana in early to mid 1850s. > William died shortly thereafter. When the Civil War started, Bird and White > joined the Union Army. I believe Bird did not stay long, but White achieved > the rank of Major. James joined the Confederate Army and was killed. My > grandfather as a teenage boy was impressed into a Confederate unit but > promptly deserted with the help of one of the officers. > > My father Joseph Walter Holmes (1887-1981) believed Uncle Jim's widow had > taken her children back to Alabama after he was killed, and thus our family > lost track of them. Isaac and Sarah moved to Louisiana about 1870 and died > soon after. > > Walter Holmes and Ruth Springer are the earliest ancestors we have been > able to identify in this Holmes line. Walter is believed to have been born > in SC about 1760. He owned land in Union Co. They moved to Kentucky > probably in the mid 1790s, got a land grant on Mill Creek in Barren Co., > (now located in Monroe Co.), and were members of Mill Creek Baptist Church. > He was a resident of Bedford Co., TN, when he sold this land. Around 1819 > he got a grant in Morgan Co., AL. Walter apparently died in the late 1840s > and Ruth in the 1850s. They are buried in the Old Enon Cemetery near Eva, > AL, north of Cullman. > > -- Ted Holmes > > > ==== HOLMES Mailing List ==== > > >

Ric, your James L. Holmes appears to have been my great-uncle. I haven't been able to prove conclusively that he is the Uncle Jim, but other researchers in the family think he is and the circumstances regarding your James seem to match our family legends. He was an elder brother of my grandfather Isaac Reeves Holmes. Their parents were Isaac Holmes and Sarah 'Sally' Lynn. Isaac was born 17 Nov 1797 in Tennessee, the second son of Walter Holmes and Ruth Springer, who actually were residents of Kentucky. Sarah Lynn was born 19 Feb 1805 in Bumcombe Co., NC, daughter of Revolutionary War veteran James Lynn Jr. and Margaret White. Sarah died 9 June 1871 and Isaac died 1 Nov 1874. Both are buried at Beech Creek Baptist Church Old Cemetery in Winn Parish, LA. Children of Isaac and Sarah, with dates and places of birth, were: Mary Ann Holmes Holly--2 Dec 1821, Alabama J. W. 'Bird' Holmes--20 Nov 1823, Morgan Co., AL James L. Holmes--About 1826, Morgan Co., AL Hugh White Holmes--25 Aug 1830, Cullman Co., AL William Holmes-- About 1832, Morgan Co., AL Margaret Ann Holmes Williams--1836, Morgan Co., AL Lavinia A. Holmes Smith--Jun 1839, Morgan Co., AL Sarah Ruth Holmes Gray--4 April 1840, Morgan Co., AL Ellen Jane Holmes--March 1842, Morgan Co., AL Ruth S. Holmes Guyton-- 7 Sep 1844, Itawamba Co., MS Isaac Reeves Holmes-- 16 Nov 1847, Itawamba Co., MS Bird, White and William migrated to Louisiana in early to mid 1850s. William died shortly thereafter. When the Civil War started, Bird and White joined the Union Army. I believe Bird did not stay long, but White achieved the rank of Major. James joined the Confederate Army and was killed. My grandfather as a teenage boy was impressed into a Confederate unit but promptly deserted with the help of one of the officers. My father Joseph Walter Holmes (1887-1981) believed Uncle Jim's widow had taken her children back to Alabama after he was killed, and thus our family lost track of them. Isaac and Sarah moved to Louisiana about 1870 and died soon after. Walter Holmes and Ruth Springer are the earliest ancestors we have been able to identify in this Holmes line. Walter is believed to have been born in SC about 1760. He owned land in Union Co. They moved to Kentucky probably in the mid 1790s, got a land grant on Mill Creek in Barren Co., (now located in Monroe Co.), and were members of Mill Creek Baptist Church. He was a resident of Bedford Co., TN, when he sold this land. Around 1819 he got a grant in Morgan Co., AL. Walter apparently died in the late 1840s and Ruth in the 1850s. They are buried in the Old Enon Cemetery near Eva, AL, north of Cullman. -- Ted Holmes

Searching for any information about John Holmes b. abt 1675 in Bertie Co., NC d. abt 28 feb 1736 Edgecombe co., NC. He married Tamar Byrd b. abt 1673. I have heard that Tamar was not the mother of John's ten children:Ann, Gabriel, John, Hardy, Edward, Charity, Dorothy, Beatrix, Rose and Mary. I want to know who is. Does anyone have any other information on this family?? Emily Floerchinger

Does anyone have any information on Hulday Homes that married Wm E Felts in Robertson County TN, Nov 5th, 1855.. I have John A. Holmes as her father??? But not sure of this.. ALSO.. I have a copy of a will by Robert Holmes signed March 15, 1833 and recorded March 1838, SUMNER COUNTY Tennessee.. he mentions sons THOMAS and ALBERT G. and daughter ELOUIS.. very interesting..I have several ALBERTS in my line and .. there is a ELOUIS that married a W.W. Brown.. interesting because Thomas married about 1800 a widow from England by the name of Elizabeth Hall-Brown who had a small son W.W. Brown. Could the Elouis here be WW Browns wife? Hope to hear from someone.. Carolyn

Does anyone have Holmes that lived around WOODBURN OREGON.. or maybe around EATONVILLE WA? If so.. please contact me.. SOME names.. Jesse James Holmes 1890-1972 married Consula Zane Walton 1891-1972 They went by Jim and Doll.. children: James Asa Royal "Bill" m Hannigan Jo Walton "Bud" m.Florence, died car accident bp Portland Military Cem Jack Edwin m unknown, last heard fom 80s in Olympia WA Paul Fredrick "Tudy" m. Hawkins Charles Lewis m. Skip Woodside