Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/111 Surname: BENSON, WALKER, HOLMES, SALISBURY, COXHEAD ------------------------- I am researching the family tree of one of my ancestors, an Eleanor BENSON, born at the end of 1812 in Millom, Cumbria to William and Mary(nee WALKER). Eleanor married a Robert HOLMES, who was born in Crosthwaite in 1816. The couple had 2 children that I know of, Eleanor and Mary. Mary married a John COXHEAD in Preston, Lancashire in 1876. Are there any other descendants out there from any of these lines? Thanks John

Thank you, Moira. I have flagged your email and will get back with you after my brother's funeral. Best regards, Betty P -----Original Message----- From: Moira Edge [mailto:moira.edge@clear.net.nz] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 7:05 PM To: polombo@unr.net Subject: Re: Thomas Hodge Green Obituary January 20 2001 Hullo Betty first of all my sincere condolences on the loss of your brother Thomas.It must be a sad time right now Just ignore this if you feel I'm imposing. Its a long shot but I wondered what the HOLMES/EDGE connection was.Our Thomas was born in Cheshire 1829 and married Lucy Holmes 1851 in Liverpool,England. John was born there in 1851 and had HOLMES added as a middle name at his Christening.John's son,also a master marine,decided to use HOLMES-EDGE as his surname and now some of my husband's siblings use this(as did his parents) while Dave and his brother have dropped the HOLMES and just use EDGE. Just the fact your brother was called Thomas and you had the Holmes and Edge names together made me curious. Our Edges are men of the sea with my husband also a master mariner as were his grandfather and gr grandfather (lost at sea on the Erin ). I hope I'm not intruding at this time sincerely Moira Edge

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/110 Surname: ------------------------- My greatgrandfather was Lincoln Holmes, don't know his wife's name He had a daughter Eva (my Grandmother, and two sons, Guy E., Guy never married. and Russell, whose wife was Stella. Anyone with knowledge of this family I would greatly like to hear from you. Barb Hedden, Ill.

JOHN HOLMES born abt 1833, Totteridge, Middx married ROSETTA PICTON on 21 November 1852 in Whetstone, Middx Issue all born in Southgate, Middx 1856 - 1874: Rosetta John Joseph Henry Charles Frederick Mary Maria Susan Emily Lucy Ann Harriet Thomas James George Other surnames connected to this family: HOWARD, PAWSEY/PAUSEY Any information / a mutual connection will be much appreciated Felicity

Pam, do you know what state this Hardin county is in? By the way, I JUST LOVED THAT STORY! Betty P -----Original Message----- From: Emil Serda [mailto:kelly298@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 3:57 PM To: HOLMES-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [HOLMES] Fw: Jack Holmes of Call Texas Hello All, I'm forwarding the following story, which was passed on to me. However, please understand, that I do not know these people, nor have I made any connections from my family to this one. I'm just hoping that maybe, it will help someone else out there, make a connection, or at least a little something extra to add to their gen notes. Thanks, Pam HARDIN COUNTY CONNECTIONS Vol 10 No.4, December 2000 PIONEER RECALLS EARLY DAYS IN CALL Submitted by Edna Pitts Jack Holmes, whose family patented land in the Call Area, grew up the may many pioneer children did. Stories of his life and lives of family members permeate the room as he begins to share what life was really like in those days. Jack's father, Tom Green Holmes, and called Black Tom, because he had beautiful dark, curly hair, taught his son how to live. Black Tom lived on land granted to his father between 1870-1889, His father, Thomas Harrison Holmes always had crops planted and ran several hundred cattle on an open range from the Sabine River to the Neches. Tom, only 13 when his mother died, took on the responsibilities of a man. He worked side by side with his father plowing fields or driving cattle. Black Tom's first wife, Arsula West, gave birth to seven children. Four died at birth from what is now believed to be complications related to the negative RH blood factor. She died young, leaving him with three young children. At 35 Tom married Stella Carter, 19, from Iowa and started another family They had 9 children, of which 3 died. Tom and Stella raised 10 of the sixteen children. Jack was born of this union when his father was 65 years old. One of Jack's earliest memories is, " Mama in the kitchen cooking a big noon meal and the different folks, like Judge Lindsey, who would come by to eat. This was a way of life ! Everyone was welcome, to the Holmes' table. The old Orange to Hemphill Road ran right in front of the house. Bittereweed grew between the ruts. Wagons and early model cars traveled this road until Highway 87 was rerouted. The word spread of a big spring located near the old road, which became a customary stopping place for travelers. They would stop for water to refresh themselves and to water their horses. If they were traveling any distance, they would usually make camp for the night, then set out again the next morning. As a child Jack remembers the virgin timber, logging operations, carrying logs to the trains, putting rocks on the tracks thinking he could derail the locomotive. He remembers when there were lots of chinquapins, hickory nuts, and berries for the abundant wild game. Harvesting the timber changed the ecology. " That's the down side," stated Holmes. " The upside is a lot of children went to bed with a full belly. Death knew no stranger during those days. A young farmer, his wife, and son had just settled in. They had erected a shack, were in the process of digging a well, when suddenly his wife took ill and died. The young man and his son buried her. Everything was left as it was and they were never seen again. This land has many unmarked graves on it. People traveling died and were buried on the spot. The old home place nestled on a hundred-twenty acres across the creek is " haunted " with ghost tales. Jack states 8 or 9 people died in it over the years. Life was hard. Medicine was not available. People did their best to survive. Black Tom's main source of income was raising cattle. The cattle picked up ticks and were dying from the infestations. The men built a dipping vat to dip the cattle. The vat was a deep hole about 9-10 feet deep with a concrete sloped walk which the cattle used to climb out of the hole. Arsenic was added to the water and tested for color. When the color was just right, the animals were forced into the pit and drenched. After several applications of this solution over a period of time, the tick problem was brought under control. There were at least 9 of these dipping vats on the Holmes land. Jack loves to tell how Black Tom hated cars. When the V-8 auto come into existence, it could travel 60 MPH. Black Tom moaned how those poor cows could not walk across the highway in a minute and the cars were going to kill all of his cows. Not long after the arrival of the fast vehicles, Black Tom sold most of his cows for the top dollar price of $ 27.00 per head. The little country boy, who did not know there were any other children in this world, other than his brothers and sisters, until he started to school at Call, grew up to follow in the footsteps of those who had gone before him. Being the Great Grandson of Thomas C Holmes, Revolutionary soldier, and the grandson of Civil War veterans, Jack, too, followed tradition and fought in war. He served in World War II in both Africa and Germany. War is not a subject broached easily with him. He lost most of his hearing there and his youth. He came home to the land he loved to resume his legacy and to keep the Holmes traditions of farming and raising cattle. He and his companion of 50 years, Mary Lazenby, raised 3 daughters, Dinah, Velma and Patricia. Jack always has a pot of coffee on the burner, a funny story to tell and cows grazing in the meadow. Source: Interview with Jack Holmes ==== HOLMES Mailing List ====

Sorry, but I failed to say where this takes place. This is Call, TX (Hardin County). Hardin County Connections is published quarterly. If anyone interested, let me know, and I'll get you the details of how to contact them. Pam

Hello All, I'm forwarding the following story, which was passed on to me. However, please understand, that I do not know these people, nor have I made any connections from my family to this one. I'm just hoping that maybe, it will help someone else out there, make a connection, or at least a little something extra to add to their gen notes. Thanks, Pam HARDIN COUNTY CONNECTIONS Vol 10 No.4, December 2000 PIONEER RECALLS EARLY DAYS IN CALL Submitted by Edna Pitts Jack Holmes, whose family patented land in the Call Area, grew up the may many pioneer children did. Stories of his life and lives of family members permeate the room as he begins to share what life was really like in those days. Jack's father, Tom Green Holmes, and called Black Tom, because he had beautiful dark, curly hair, taught his son how to live. Black Tom lived on land granted to his father between 1870-1889, His father, Thomas Harrison Holmes always had crops planted and ran several hundred cattle on an open range from the Sabine River to the Neches. Tom, only 13 when his mother died, took on the responsibilities of a man. He worked side by side with his father plowing fields or driving cattle. Black Tom's first wife, Arsula West, gave birth to seven children. Four died at birth from what is now believed to be complications related to the negative RH blood factor. She died young, leaving him with three young children. At 35 Tom married Stella Carter, 19, from Iowa and started another family They had 9 children, of which 3 died. Tom and Stella raised 10 of the sixteen children. Jack was born of this union when his father was 65 years old. One of Jack's earliest memories is, " Mama in the kitchen cooking a big noon meal and the different folks, like Judge Lindsey, who would come by to eat. This was a way of life ! Everyone was welcome, to the Holmes' table. The old Orange to Hemphill Road ran right in front of the house. Bittereweed grew between the ruts. Wagons and early model cars traveled this road until Highway 87 was rerouted. The word spread of a big spring located near the old road, which became a customary stopping place for travelers. They would stop for water to refresh themselves and to water their horses. If they were traveling any distance, they would usually make camp for the night, then set out again the next morning. As a child Jack remembers the virgin timber, logging operations, carrying logs to the trains, putting rocks on the tracks thinking he could derail the locomotive. He remembers when there were lots of chinquapins, hickory nuts, and berries for the abundant wild game. Harvesting the timber changed the ecology. " That's the down side," stated Holmes. " The upside is a lot of children went to bed with a full belly. Death knew no stranger during those days. A young farmer, his wife, and son had just settled in. They had erected a shack, were in the process of digging a well, when suddenly his wife took ill and died. The young man and his son buried her. Everything was left as it was and they were never seen again. This land has many unmarked graves on it. People traveling died and were buried on the spot. The old home place nestled on a hundred-twenty acres across the creek is " haunted " with ghost tales. Jack states 8 or 9 people died in it over the years. Life was hard. Medicine was not available. People did their best to survive. Black Tom's main source of income was raising cattle. The cattle picked up ticks and were dying from the infestations. The men built a dipping vat to dip the cattle. The vat was a deep hole about 9-10 feet deep with a concrete sloped walk which the cattle used to climb out of the hole. Arsenic was added to the water and tested for color. When the color was just right, the animals were forced into the pit and drenched. After several applications of this solution over a period of time, the tick problem was brought under control. There were at least 9 of these dipping vats on the Holmes land. Jack loves to tell how Black Tom hated cars. When the V-8 auto come into existence, it could travel 60 MPH. Black Tom moaned how those poor cows could not walk across the highway in a minute and the cars were going to kill all of his cows. Not long after the arrival of the fast vehicles, Black Tom sold most of his cows for the top dollar price of $ 27.00 per head. The little country boy, who did not know there were any other children in this world, other than his brothers and sisters, until he started to school at Call, grew up to follow in the footsteps of those who had gone before him. Being the Great Grandson of Thomas C Holmes, Revolutionary soldier, and the grandson of Civil War veterans, Jack, too, followed tradition and fought in war. He served in World War II in both Africa and Germany. War is not a subject broached easily with him. He lost most of his hearing there and his youth. He came home to the land he loved to resume his legacy and to keep the Holmes traditions of farming and raising cattle. He and his companion of 50 years, Mary Lazenby, raised 3 daughters, Dinah, Velma and Patricia. Jack always has a pot of coffee on the burner, a funny story to tell and cows grazing in the meadow. Source: Interview with Jack Holmes

Thomas Hodge Green b 22 Aug 1920 Wayside, Jones County, Georgia, d Spring Creek, Wakulla County, Florida 20 Jan 2001, age 80 years. Not only were Thomas' ancestors in every major U.S. war - American Revolution, War of 1812 (Capehart), Spanish American War, WWI, but Thomas was a hero of WWII. While a Chief Petty Officer on the battleship USS Mississippi before and during WWII, he fought in the Atlantic and most of the Pacific battles. He experienced every type battle anyone could experience, including at least one hit by a kamikaze(?) plane. The first ancestor I have been able to come up with so far is William Green, signer of the Second Virginia Charter in 1609 and arrived in Virginia 1612, barely escaping the 'massacre if 1823'. His gr gr gr grandfather Georg Peter Zoellner (Zellner) , as an Ansbach soldier ranked private, fought with the British in the Am-Rev, then deserted and continued to live in the U.S. Sincerely submitted, Thomas' sister Betty Green Polombo Thomas' surnames are: Zellner, Nichols, Capehart, Holmes, Edge, Hodge, Hodges, Green, Woodall, Bryant, Funderburk, Bradley, Powell, May, Hawkins, Street, Drury, Gunn, Watts, and more. Betty P

INDEX OF OBITUARIES FROM THE PENSACOLA NEWS JOURNAL,"H" http://www.rootsweb.com/~flescamb/h_obit.htm HOLMES Andrew Jackson Jr. 65 03 Mar 1984 HOLMES Ara Spencer 64 27 Sep 1999+ HOLMES Mrs. Authetta B. 56 J 09 Jun 1955 HOLMES Bernnice ? 29 May 1985 HOLMES Bessie Viola Kent 79 14 May 1986 HOLMES Betty 64 15 Oct 1986 HOLMES Carl C. 58 J 28 Aug 1954+ HOLMES Clauzell 60 02 Feb 1995 HOLMES Coy Thomas Jr. 70 14 Apr 2000F HOLMES Daniel "Toby" 39* 20 Jan 1999F HOLMES Davis 98* 07 Dec 1990F HOLMES Durwood Lynwood 74 15 Oct 1995 HOLMES Edgar Noel 78 03 Aug 1994 HOLMES Edmund W. Sr. 96 11 Sep 1996 HOLMES Erma Paige 60 22 Mar 1985 HOLMES Freddie "BB" Jr. 71 24 Nov 1996 HOLMES Gladys 88* 23 Feb 1999 HOLMES Rev. Grady Michael 44 0 7 Jan 1994 HOLMES Harlan H. 32 N 12 Jul 1965 HOLMES Harry Maxwell 87 16 Jul 1997 HOLMES Dr. Harry S. ? J 08 Apr 1954+ HOLMES Helen Roberts 15 Feb 1994 HOLMES Herbert B. 74 08 Mar 2000F HOLMES Howard Robert 66 27 Jul 1984 HOLMES Irene Margaret 87 03 Jun 1999 HOLMES John 21 DN 08 Feb 1891 HOLMES John Broward 71 09 Jul 1999 HOLMES John Franklin 52 PNJ 05 Sep 1954 HOLMES Joseph "Panther" ? 28 Jan 1984 HOLMES Joseph Earl 65 01 Jul 1994 HOLMES Julia Pauline 72 04 May 1962+ HOLMES Laurens M. "Juicy" 58 01 Jan 1993 HOLMES Lynn B. Jr. 27 27 Apr 1985 HOLMES Mary 98* 07 Oct 1998F HOLMES Mauneen 70 08 Oct 1995 HOLMES Ruthanna White 67 07 Jun 2000+ HOLMES Samuel Grant Jr. 50 20/ 21 Sep 1999&A HOLMES Dr. Samuel Grant Sr. M. D. 80 04 Mar 1997 HOLMES Shadrach 58 14 Feb 1916 HOLMES Sonya J. 63 20 Nov 1995 HOLMES Thelma Marie 81 28 Aug 1985 HOLMES Theodore 86* 04 Apr 1991F HOLMES Vera 50 14 Apr 1995 HOLMES William Arzo 62 06 May 1996

Tonight while going through some Mortality Schedules, I ran across 4 kids.. 3 age 1~ and 1 age 2, that died from TEETHING.. Does anyone know how a child would die from teething or have any ideas.. I am really wondering about this. Thanks for your help. Carolyn

Hello, I am looking for information on William Field HOLMES b. 1807 Brandon, Suffolk, Eng who married in 1864 at South Cottonwood, Salt Lake City , Utah to Elizabeth Ellen ENTWISTLE b. 1846 Bolton,Lancashire,Eng. They had the following children- Charlotte Elizabeth HOLMES b.1866 poss. South Cottonwood Martha Ellen HOLMES b. 1868 "" Jacob William HOLMES b. 187o "" John Demund HOLMES b. 1872 "" Mary Esther HOLMES b. 1874 "" Thomas Henry HOLMES 1876 "" Abraham HOLMES b. 1879 "" Sarah Ann HOLMES b. 1880 "" Rachel HOLMES b. 1883 "" Seeking marriages and descendants. Appreciate any help. Thank you. Regards Anne _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

I should have given more detail on My HOLMES. they are Margaret Holmes, lived, married and died in Belfast and her father Andrew Holmes. Margaret was married in 1891 in St. Annes Church of Ireland to William John Woods, her age was 24 and she lived in Hazelwood, Belfast, she died in 1905 after the birth of her 6th child. her fathers name on the marriage certificate was Andrew Holmes, no other clues on him. Thanks in advance for any help Anne of USA

I am looking for HOLMES from N.Ireland, anybody out there looking also? cheers Anne of USA

Does anyone have information on this person?? I "think" he might be mine but went by EVERETTE HOLMES Leslie Everette Holmes b. Dec 29 1870 Olathe, Kansas d. Aug. 9, 1950 Republic, Kansas married: Bessie Gertrude Stafford Feb 5, 1902 can anyone help me out here?? Thanks Carolyn

"5 Holmes brothers came over from Ireland, landed in PA and 3 went to WVA, 1 to middle TN and 1 to west TN. " Anyone know of these 5 brothers? anyone hear this story before.. this would have included my Thomas b 1776.. could have been legally James Thomas Holmes (Holms/Homes) I THINK it might have been Thomas, James, John, William and maybe Robert or Joseph?? Thanks..

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/109 Surname: LOCKWOOD, PECK ------------------------- Looking for Lydia LOCKWOOD and William PECK. My great-grandmother, Cornelia PECK was from Greenwich, CT. Please let me know if you think there is a connection. Thanks

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/108 Surname: HOLMES, MAYS, JOHNSON ------------------------- Hi, Just wondering if we have a connection. I had an uncle, Oglesby, that was born in Oregon Co., Mo. and died in Paragould in 1905. He was married to Rose Ann Joyner. They had two children, William and Daisy, she married a man by the name of Lawson. Carl

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/107 Surname: Holmes, Harvey ------------------------- Looking for connection. William T. Holmes married Nina Harvey in or near Paragould AR around early 1900's I have photos of the Harvey Parents of Nina and the Holmes Parents of William Terrel Holmes.

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/106 Surname: HOLMS, HOLMES ------------------------- Ric..I appreciate your help so much. I sent two e-mails your way this afternoon and both were returned to me as undeliverable...The information was quite interesting and now I wonder if my Holmes moved to Arkansas because of your family. The 1910 census lists Horace's occupation as "wholesale groceries"....maybe associated with the mercantile store? Horace's father..Thomas was born in New York...does that fit with any of your family members? Thanks so much for checking and responding...maybe someday I will find out more about this family?? Betty

Posted on: HOLMES Queries Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/h/o/HOLMES/queries/105 Surname: Holmes, Hill, May, Bower, Huffman, Wallace, McIntosh, Smith ------------------------- Betty: I checked & could not find a Horace in my tree. My gr gf James S HOLMES came to AR with his brother Harry in the 1880's and I have a good list of their desendants w/o a Horace. It could be he was a cousin that I don't know about and maybe one reason James went to Harrisburg. Harry owned a mercantile store, hotel & saloon in H'burg. James' oldest son Robert built the first bottling plant, and according to some cousins he was very hard to get along with. I tried to reply to your email and it came back "unknown". Good Luck, Ric