Looking for any info on Zachariah HOLMES who died in the Civil War and found in the Second Dist in Hardeman Co., TN in 1860. He lived with Amanda MV, age 35, widow of Stephen WOOD. Jim Sample [email protected]

I am looking for my great grandmother's family. Frances Amelia Holmes was born 10 December 1893, possibly in Saskatchewan or Ontario. 21 December 1910 she married Wesley Booker in Melfort Saskatchewan. She died in 1921. I would like to find out where she was born and her parents and siblings. Any clues? Tracy Radcliffe [email protected]

Did someone need info on Obadiah Holmes of Middletown, Monmouth Co, NJ? I found an abstract of his will. 1795 Nov, 11 Holmes, Obadiah, Sr., of Middletown, Monmouth Co.; will of. Wife, choice of one negro man and one negro woman,, and negro boy, Charles; also one share of real and personal. (12 acres at west side of plantation to be sold.) Sons, Remson, Obadiah and Wlliam, each 2 shares of estate. Daughters, Sally, Caty and Maria Holmes, each one share, when 21. Executors - wife, Caty, Joseph Stillwell, Esq.., and Chrineyonce Vanmater. N, B, - No division to be made until youngest son is of age. Witnesses - John S Holmes, John Numan, Nehemiah Shumway. Proved Dec 23, 1795. 1795, Dec 2. Inventory, L1,462.19.6 (in dollars 3,657.44); made by Aaron Longstreet, Barnes Smock and John S Holmes. Lib, 33, p 502; File 7235-72246M Hope this may be of help to someone. Shirley

I'll be on vacation all next week, so PLEASE don't have problems. My backup is also on vacation, so there won't be anyone to help out. When I cone back I expect to hear that at least six of you have found a long lost Holmes ancestor and that they're all related to mine. Or something. Have a good time while I'm gone. Jude **************** Judith B. Glad 503/761-7933 As an infamous woman once said, "Anything worth doing is worth overdoing."

At 11:16 PM 7/28/98 EDT, you wrote: >Hello, my name is DarLynn Nemitz and I am researching one of my distant >ancestors, Lydia Holmes. > >In your Holmes posting, you said, "Prior to the issue of the Monmouth Patent >on April 8, 1665, Johnathan visited the Monmouth country and, with others, >negotiated with the Indian Sachems for lands in that part of East Jersey (now >New Jersey). He was joined in this endeavor by a Captain John Browne, who was >by then married to Johnathan's sister, Lydiah Holmes." > >I am looking for information on a Lydia Holmes who married a John Bowne. So >you can see the dates are similar, the names Lydiah Holmes and Lydia Holmes >and John Browne and John Bowne are quite similar. Here's something else to >consider: I do not know where Lydia or her daughter were born, but her >granddaughter, Hannah was born in Freehold, Monmouth Co., NJ, exactly where >your Holmes had lived. Below is all I know of my Lydia. If you have any >additional information which would either link or eliminate these two women, >please let me know. > >MY LYDIA HOLMES >Lydia Holmes married John Bowne and had a child: Sarah Bowne. > >Sarah married Richard Salter and died bet. 1669 - 1714. Richard Salter was a >lawyer, judge and a colonial legislator. Sarah had a child: Hannah Salter >about 1692 in Freehold, Monmouth Co., NJ. > >Hannah married Mordecai Lincoln bef. Sept. 14, 1714, probably in monmouth Co., >NJ. Hannah died in 1810. Mordecai Lincoln was an iron founder who emigrated >to Chester Co., PA. (All of this information came from a book about the >genealogy of the Lincolns). > *********************************************** Dear DarLynn: Your Lydia Holmes is the same as Lydiah, daughter of the Rev. Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes. I would be very interested in knowing the name and author of the book you mention. Does this book say the name is John Bowne? The notes I have clearly say the name is Browne and that this family started Browne University. After copying the following information, I have incorporated some of your listed details into my account. In other words, the information I provide to you is as it was before incorporating your information. I have the following, with the name Browne (as in Browne University), on Lydia Holmes. I have also included information on Mary Holmes, daughter of the Rev. Ob. and K. H. Holmes, as Edwin Salter indicates that Mary Holmes may have been his ancestor and the woman who married John Brown. Perhaps you can help clear the confusion. Again the source of the bulk of the following information is the hand written notes of Mary Leeper (1866-1939), who became Mary Leeper Long of Carrollton, OH, as copied from a Holmes Family Bible. I added the information in [...]. **************************************************** LIDIAH HOLMES: Lidiah (also spelled Lydia and Lydiah) Holmes, the daughter of Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes, was born in America; her birth date is not known. She married Captain John Browne in 1663. John Browne had been one of the original negotiators for land in the Monmouth country during a exploration of that area in 1664 or 1665. Johnathan Holmes, the brother of Lydiah, had also been one of the original explorers of the Monmouth country and had participated in the negotiations with the Indians. John Browne was one of the original 12 patentees of the Monmouth (or Nicolls) Patent. John and Lydiah Holmes Browne moved from Newport to Gravesend, Long Island soon after their marriage. The father and mother of John Browne, William and Ann Browne, had been neighbors of the Holmes' in Salem, Massachusetts. In 1667, John and Lydiah Holmes Browne moved from Gravesend to Middletown, East Jersey. [The number of children that John and Lydiah Holmes Browne had is not known, but some information is available on two of their children.] Obadiah Browne: Obadiah Browne, the son of John and Lidiah Holmes Browne, was born on July 18, 1666. Nothing else is known of him. Sarah Browne: Of special note is daughter Sarah, who married Richard Saltar. Hannah, the daughter of Richard and Sarah Saltar, became the wife of Mordecai Lincoln and the mother of "Virginia" John Lincoln. This "Virginia" John Lincoln was the father of the Abraham Lincoln who settled in Kentucky and was killed by Indians there in the 1780s. This Abraham Lincoln was the grandfather of Abraham Lincoln, the President of the United States. Therefore, the Rev. Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes were the fifth great grandparents of Abraham Lincoln. In addition, Hannah Brown Saltar had a son, named Edwin Saltar; he lived in New Jersey and was said to be from the Holmes line. Edwin Saltar wrote the Early Dutch Settlers and wrote an article on Rev. Obadiah Holmes which was printed in the Monmouth Democrat newspaper of September 6, 1888. Near the close of this article, he wrote: "The Rhode Island accounts of the family state that Mary born about 1648, daughter of Rev. Obadiah Holmes, was married to John Browne, born 1634, son of Rev. Chad Browne. This Browne Family is the one distinguished in Rhode Island and from some of its members Browne University took its name." [The quoted statements are not guaranteed to be actual quotes from the article of Edwin Saltar, but appear to be quotes in the hand written notes of Mary Leeper Long on the Holmes Family. The account that the wife of John Browne was named Mary contradicts other information about the Holmes Family, saying that Lydiah had been the wife of John Browne. Could Lydiah and Mary have been the same person, as in that Lydiah was named Lydiah Mary Holmes or Mary Lydiah Holmes?] MARY HOLMES: Mary, the daughter of Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes, was born in America. [According to Edwin Saltar (great grandson of Obadiah Holmes), in the September 6, 1888 issue of the Monmouth Democrat newspaper, Mary Holmes is said to have married John Browne. Lydiah Holmes also married a John Browne. Based on various sources (cited above), Martha and Mary were different persons, who each married a man name John Browne (i.e., there may have been two John Brownes).] ********************************** Steve Leeper

Lorrie in KC,MO: I think you may not find Sarah as a daughter of the Rev. Obadiah Holmes, as she is (according to my information) his grand daughter. Obadiah would have been 63 in 1669, whereas Johnathan Holmes (her father, according to my records) would have been about 39. She also is more likely to have been born in Middletown, East Jersey (New Jersey), as that is where her parents appear to have lived in 1669. I have the following information, copied by my great great aunth, Mary Leeper Long, from the Holmes family Bible, on Johnathan and Sarah Holmes: Johnathan Holmes (1633/34 - 1712/13) Johnathan Holmes, the second child of Obadiah and Katherine Hyde Holmes was born near Manchester, England, in 1633 or 1634. He came with his parents to America in 1638 and lived with them in Salem and Rehoboth and near Newport, RI. In 1665, Johnathan Holmes married Sarah Borden, born in 1644. Prior to the issue of the Monmouth Patent on April 8, 1665, Johnathan visited the Monmouth country and, with others, negotiated with the Indian Sachems for lands in that part of East Jersey (now New Jersey). He was joined in this endeavor by a Captain John Browne, who was by then married to Johnathan's sister, Lydiah Holmes. Sometime during 1665, perhaps after the issue of the Monmouth Patent, Johnathan and his wife joined John and Lydiah Holmes Browne to reside with them in their home in Gravesend, while the Patent and settlement plans were under consideration. In the year 1667, Johnathan Holmes helped to found Middletown, Monmouth County, East Jersey (now New Jersey). His residence there dates from 1667. On page 45, of deed book B, Monmouth County records is a deed from five Indian Sachems to Johnathan Holmes dated August 12, 1667. This deed was drawn up to extinguish the Indian title to the land, so that when the conditions of the Monmouth Patent were complied with, the land would carry over to him clear of claims and encumbrances. The 16 to 18 years that Johnathan Holmes spent in Middletown are full of interest. Johnathan Holmes was one of the organizers of the First Baptist Church of Middletown, NJ. His father, the Rev. Obadiah Holmes, was present at the organization in the year 1667. He went on to hold many posts of honor and responsibility. On September 12, 1673, during trouble between the English and the Dutch, Johnathan Holmes was chosen Captain with John Smith, Lieutenant, and, by order of the Council of War, was mustered into military service the next day. Thereafter, he was known as Captain Johnathan Holmes. In late 1683/early 1684, Johnathan and most of his family, except his son Obadiah (see Obadiah Holmes 1666 - 1745, below), moved back to Newport, RI. In his father's will, dated April 9, 1682, Johnathan was named as the sole executor of the estate. He may have been drawn back to Newport in order to settle the estate and care for his mother. Johnathan Holmes was active in public affairs from the time he moved to New Jersey in 1667 until he retired from public life in Newport, RI, on May 6, 1707, in his 74th year. Johnathan Holmes died in Newport, RI, in 1713. Sarah Borden Holmes died between 1705 and 1708 (?) in Newport, RI. Based on his will (dated 1705), Johnathan and Sarah Borden Holmes had 9 children: Obadiah, Johnathan, Samuel, Sarah, Mary, Catherine, Martha, Lydia, and Joseph. Nothing is known of any of the children, except for Obadiah and Johnathan. OBADIAH HOLMES: Obadiah Holmes, the first child of Johnathan and Sarah Borden Holmes, was born on the 17th of July 1666. He married Alice Ashton. A descendant of this Obadiah Holmes, Margaret Masters, married into the Leeper family (William Alexander Leeper of Leesville, OH). JOHNATHAN HOLMES: Johanthan Holmes was born in 1672, 1675, or 1681. He married, first, Rebecca Throckmorton and, second, Deliverance Ashton. The parents of Deliverance Ashton were The Rev. James, Jr. and Deliverance Throckmorton Ashton. Johnathan Holmes died in 1766. Johnathan and Deliverance Ashton Holmes had at least six children. SAMUEL HOLMES: Samuel Holmes was born at Newport, RI in 1676 (Mormon Church Ancestral Records) and died after 1769. SARAH HOLMES: Sarah Holmes, born about 1669, married William Slade of Rehoboth and Swansea, MA. Their daughter, Elizabeth Slade (1695-1772), married Barnard Haile (1687-1754) of Swansea, MA, and Warren, RI. Through the Holmes discussion list at RootsWeb (http://www.rootsweb.com), Steve Leeper communicated with the 7X great granddaughter (Dorothy J. Hornus) of Sarah Holmes Slade in 1998. Dorothy Hornus is also descended from Martha Holmes Audley, the sister of Johnathan Holmes. MARY HOLMES(?): Mary Holmes married into the Easton family. CATHERINE HOLMES(?): Catherine Holmes married into the Waitman or Whiteman family. MARTHA HOLMES(?): Martha Holmes was born in 1675 and married Phillip Tillinghast in 1692. She died in 1728. JOSEPH HOLMES(?): Joseph Holmes was born between 1676 and 1682. He died in about 1746. ******************** I have additional inoformation on Sarah Borden and Obadiah Holmes, the brother of Sarah Holmes, if any one is interested. Steve Leeper

I am looking for descendants, relatives of, or any information on a Harold Herbert Holmes b. January of 1887 presumably in Lima Ohio. Nat Holmes

I wonder if someone might be able to shed some light on this situation. For four or five years, I've been looking for the parents/siblings of Sarah Emma Holmes Poland, a g-grandmother, without any luck whatsoever. Then earlier this week I discovered she remarried in 1917 after Charles E. Poland, her first husband, died (in 1914). On the second marriage license application, Sarah Emma listed her birth date as 17 August 1857, her place of birth as Delaware County, OH, her mother as Catherine Johnson and her father as Elmer J. CHERRYHOLMES. Everyone in the family thought her maiden name was Holmes, and now it turns out to be Cherryholmes. Has anyone heard of this name before? Do you know of others who've shortened their names to Holmes? It's long been believed that Sarah Emma Holmes was part American Indian. Any comments, suggestions appreciated. Don

Orsamus Holmes b 1757-1835 Pembroke, Mass Wife Ruth Webb Children Alanson Holmes b 1781-1804 Springfield, Vt Wife Olive Lee Abner Holmes b 1783-1859 Springfield, Vt Brilliant Holmes b 1785-1859 Springfield, Vt Husband John Scott Origen Holmes b 1788-1806 Springfield, Vt Ruth Holmes b 1790-1878 Husband John Marshall Augustine Holmes b 1793 Springfield, Vt Myron Holmes b 1795 Sherburne, New York Asher Holmes 1797 Sherburne, Vt Laurana Holmes 1800 Springfield, Vt William Holmes 1800 Springfield, Vt Augusine Holmes 1803 Springfield, Vt Does any one know this family? Thanks, Nancy

Can someone help me with the e-mail address for Bob Teets who is related to the Stark Co IL Holmes. He sent me a message while we were on vacation, I copied down his address so I could write when I returned home and I can't find it...I think he lived in TN...any help will be appreciated. Gayle [email protected]

Hi, New to the list I'm trying to translate the Danish book Familien Holm Til Eskjær - a 1921 book about the family of Peder Holm (ca 1770) of North Jutland. Anyone with an interest in this family, or a knowledge of Danish and Danish place names please contact me. Cheers, Steve Steve Spicer [email protected] http://www.crown.net/~sspicer/index.html

Just taking the time to bring up the name of Henry R. (Ralph?) Holmes to see if I'm not the only one looking for him........ He was born in August of 1844 (so the story goes) in Mobile Co. Alabama (Mt. Vernon?)....no family info at all. Served in the civil war for Ohio!! hmmmm... with the yankees!!! Married a Ohio gal, Nancy Jane Fish,...had one daughter Henrietta "Hettie" who married Samuel Bell Courtney (of Ireland) and they all lived happily ever after in Pittsburgh PA. Barbara....uprooting family trees in Sacramento.

Looking for information on Sam HOLMES and his family. Sam was married to Bertha HEIDERMAN b. 29 Mar 1870 in Belvidere, Boone IL. They had two children that I know of. Frank b. 1891 in South Dakota Bertha b. 1900 in Montana Sam had a freight business for a time with partner Jens ANDERSEN, Jens was married to Berthas sister Cora Heiderman. In 1904 the HOLMES lived in Gebo, MT. In 1914 they lived in Fromburg, MT. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you very much, Tamara Mecham [email protected]

COOPER/HOLMES Searching for info on families of Henry COOPER and Sally A. HOLMES m. in Lawrence Co., IN 22 Feb 1844. The family was in Fulton Co., IL by 1850 census. Known children were Francis J. b. 1845 IN, Laura A. b. 1847 IN, and Eunice M. b. 1849 IN. Will share info. Carole [email protected]

--WebTV-Mail-322892046-272 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Cynthia... Please tell us the location. Thanks... Jackie --WebTV-Mail-322892046-272 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-162.iap.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id VAA27951; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id VAA06132; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from [email protected]) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA15469; Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:58:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <[email protected]> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 23:35:20 +0000 From: sam sparks <[email protected]> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Old-To: [email protected] Subject: holmes family tree Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"kiP-uD.A.CsD.XjCr1"@fp-1.rootsweb.com> To: [email protected] Resent-From: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/781 X-Loop: [email protected] Precedence: list Resent-Sender: [email protected] I'm looking for any information about William Oliver Holmes. Born 1862, died 4-4-47. I would appreciate anything. Thank you, Cynthia --WebTV-Mail-322892046-272--

I'm looking for any information about William Oliver Holmes. Born 1862, died 4-4-47. I would appreciate anything. Thank you, Cynthia

Does anyone have info on Samuel Holmes, who was in Ulster Co. & Orange Co., NY in the early 1700's? His wife's name was En Hobbeson. Three of their children were baptized 4 Jul 1733 at Minisink, Orange Co., NY by the minister of the Kingston, NY Dutch Reformed Church. I don't think these three were triplets as the baptism records usually indicate that -- there were lots of baptisms that day, so the minister was probably making his rounds of the churches he served. A fourth child may be Eleanor Holmes who was b. about 1735. She md. William Terry in Bucks Co., PA 26 May 1756. My ancestor is Mary Holmes who md. Joseph Wheeler 4 Sep 1748 in the Smithfield, Bucks Co., PA Reformed Dutch Church. The marriage record indicates that Maria was born at Smithfield, so it may be that her parents lived there and made the trip to Minisink, NY to have the children baptized. I'd be happy to share what little info I have on this family. Any help will be greatly appreciated! Pat Shoemaker Phoenix, AZ (Boy, is it hot here!) [email protected]

I am interested in any information on the family of Thomas HOLMES, who died at Dracut, MA, 1726. Thomas would have been Presbyterian. Thomas, along with his brother, John of Boston, were emigrants from N. Ireland, ca 1718. thanks, Charles

I am interested in finding the birthplace, birthdate and parents of Hugh HOLMES or HOMES. He was of Newcastle, Lincoln Co., ME. Hugh first shows up in records ca 1761 as a "Pemaquid Heirs" petitioner in 1761. He also married around that time wido Mary HOPKINS. The Pemaquid Heir tag would have put him and his family in the Muscongus Broad Bay area of Lincoln Co., which would probably be present day Bristol, ME. Any information appreciated. thanks, Charles

I am a Descendent of Joseph Holmes Born in Maine about 1860 and later settled in New York. He was a printer, as were his sons. Anyone have a connection?