This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_915117478_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_915117478_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: [email protected] Return-path: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: Holmes info. to give... Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1998 10:14:30 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit My Holmes line is also from Ireland, Limerick and Cork. I have no idea whether any of my Holmeses lived in Aghada, but the index to Griffiths' has James, Margaret, Matthew, and Thomas as householders in the townland and parish of Aghada. Perhaps you already have this information. My ancestor is Edward Holmes, a mason, son of John Holmes, a gardener, who married Mary O'Gorman in Kilmurry Parish, County Limerick, in 1849. There were at least two surviving children, Michael J, who married Mary Ann O'Shea in StMary's Cathedral, Cork City, 1871. He left for Brooklyn shortly thereafter and died in Utica, NY, in 1879, leaving two children, Edward and Catherine, and another child, John, born in Ireland in 1871, who apparently never came to the US. The second child of Edward and Mary Holmes, Catherine, married John Pryor in Chicago, but had no children. If any of this sounds at all familiar, I'd be delighted to share information with you. SBT, Wellesley, MA --part0_915117478_boundary--

I know my Holmes were in Scotland then Ireland before they came to the States. I found a wonderful site tonight in Scotland re; Homes and Hume. My Holmes last name was at one time HOME. If any other Holmes' on here had the same problem (name change) this is a great site... http://seconn4.yoda.com/~hume/ check it out ~ may be a connection, TONS of surnames

If you are the one who was looking for ERNEST HOLMES? I have an Ernest born 14 Nov. 1887. Could this be yours?

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I only have a Mary Magdelene Holmes that married Elmer E. Jewell 17 April 1886 Sorry couldn't help you ..but you DO have his same last name.. any connection there? Carolyn LJewell wrote: > Would you have any info on Mary Jane HOLMES b. 1787+ - TN > married to McCAGUE, John b.1782... > > children: > Eleanor,James F.,Annabelle,Elizabeth,Ellen,Andrew,William > H.,MaryJane;1808-1825 birthdates. > > creeping along.... > Lori Jewell > [email protected]

Would you have any info on Mary Jane HOLMES b. 1787+ - TN married to McCAGUE, John b.1782... children: Eleanor,James F.,Annabelle,Elizabeth,Ellen,Andrew,William H.,MaryJane;1808-1825 birthdates. creeping along.... Lori Jewell [email protected]

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --part0_914966992_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.1> Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII --part0_914966992_boundary Content-ID: <[email protected]_out.mail.aol.com.2> Content-type: message/rfc822 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline From: [email protected] Return-path: <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Re: Holmes info. to give... Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 15:39:50 EST Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit My HOLMES line is as follows: Joseph HOLMES, b. 1860 in MAINE (As was his father), Arthur Daniel HOLMES, b. 1902 in New York, Then myself Arthur W. HOLMES, b. New York. I am looking for any connection to JOSEPH HOLMES, or any information about his connection to the HOLMES of MAINE. --part0_914966992_boundary--

My Holmes line comes from Ireland. Anyone with Irish connections? Cornelius Hart married Norry Holmes in 1832 in the Parish of Aghada, County Cork. Son, John Howard Hart, born in NY in 1856. Sandy Hart, RootsWeb Sponsor http://www.geocities.com/Wellesley/5372/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/a/r/Sandra-R-Hart/index.html/ PA-ENGLE,COVERT,DEVENS,MACK,KNERR/KANARR,FISK, NJ/NY-HART,KEEHNER,KINNEY,DENNIS,MORRISON,PECK -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, December 28, 1998 9:02 PM Subject: Holmes info. to give... >Subject: HOLMES/ PEMBERTUN/ FLOYD >Date: 10/12/98 2:50 AM !!!First Boot!!! >From: <A HREF="aol://3548:Thor XL">Thor XL</A> >Message-id: <[email protected]> > > >I have a book about my Holmes ancestors this book was compiled from letters >and diaries. There was a George Pembertun Holmes, who came in 1837 and became >a professor at William and Mary college. There were other professors, one at >University of Virginia, "Holmes Hall" was named after George Frederick Holmes, >who started there in 1857. There was a Major Arthur Campbell Holmes who >fought from 1777-1781, in the >Revolutionary War. The family mostly lives on the east coast and primarily in >the south. There was Col Edward Anderson Holmes who fought in the Civil War >was taken prisoner by the Union army in 1864 while he was still a citizen of >England. > > > > > >

Subject: HOLMES/ PEMBERTUN/ FLOYD Date: 10/12/98 2:50 AM !!!First Boot!!! From: <A HREF="aol://3548:Thor XL">Thor XL</A> Message-id: <[email protected]> I have a book about my Holmes ancestors this book was compiled from letters and diaries. There was a George Pembertun Holmes, who came in 1837 and became a professor at William and Mary college. There were other professors, one at University of Virginia, "Holmes Hall" was named after George Frederick Holmes, who started there in 1857. There was a Major Arthur Campbell Holmes who fought from 1777-1781, in the Revolutionary War. The family mostly lives on the east coast and primarily in the south. There was Col Edward Anderson Holmes who fought in the Civil War was taken prisoner by the Union army in 1864 while he was still a citizen of England.

Sorry... Jackie [email protected]

Looking for Information regarding Joseph S Holmes below, also note I have an 1850 extract for Wm W. b ~1800, Eliza A b ~1807, 9 children as well as Mary Holmes b ~1766. If anyone has any information on Joseph or his lineage to Samuel etc, please email back. Thank you Subject* __ ___ ____ Joseph Samuel Holmes __________________________________________________________________________ Father* Samuel Holmes (bef 1813-aft 1828) Mother* Sarah (--?--) (bef 1812-aft 1828) __________________________________________________________________________ Birth* 08 Feb 1828 Virginia. Marriage: 23 Mar 1853 Regina or Rigina C. Clem (1831-1878); Shenandoah Co., Virginia. Daughter: 11 Feb 1854 Arabella Virginia Holmes (1854-1855) Son: __ ___ 1855 Leu Holmes (1855- ) Son: 19 Dec 1858 Reuben K Holmes (1858-1861) Milit-Beg* c __ ___ 1863 Shenandoah, Virginia. Son: c __ ___ 1864 Daniel P Holmes (1864- ) Daughter: 10 Sep 1868 Sarah E Holmes (1868-1878) Daughter: 24 Jun 1873 Olive Victoria Holmes (1873-1957); Woodstock, Virginia.*** Daughter: c __ Apr 1876 Mabel G Holmes (1876-1888); Shenandoah Co., Virginia. Marriage* c __ ___ 1878 Flora A Mc Inturff (1843-1907); Shenandoah Co., Virginia. Census* 18 Jun 1880 Dwelling 258, Johnston Township, Shenandoah, Virginia. Biography* __ ___ ____ Daughter: __ May 1882 Daisio E Holmes (1882- ); Shenandoah Co.,Virginia. Death* 14 Jan 1892 Shenandoah Co., Virginia. Burial* __ ___ ____ 27; Isaiah Clem Cem, Powell's Fort Valley, Shenandoah Co., Virginia. Printed on: 27 Dec 1998 Prepared by: Daryl C Houk Beaverton, OR; 97008 [email protected] -- My Hobbies include Genealogy, (as all genealogists know, not too sure if can define as a hobby anymore!) and others. Below is a listing of much of my end of line ancestors, much of my paternal lines from VA are from the great Shenandoah Valley, which is also my highest location of interest. If you notice, there is a definate north/south thing going on here. -------------------------------Paternal Lines------------------------ Elizabeth BURNER, ca 1808 VA William MAPLES, 1725, VA/TN Michael CLEM, ca 1786, VA William MORELAND, 15 Aug 1804, VA Joseph S HOLMES, 8 Feb 1828, VA Adam ROSS, bef 1780, VA Jacob HOUK, HAUGCH, 1707, Pal/PA/VA David SIMPSON Sr, ca 1808, Scot/NY/VA John JONES Sr, bef 1767, VA? Moses SWEENY Sr, bef 1735, VA Joseph LAYMAN ca 1730, PA/VA/TN Henry WALTER SR, bef 1785, VA Edward LONG SR, ca 1746, VA Alfred WILSON*, 10 APR 1811, GA/LA/TX M.Job MANNING, 1768, TN/AL Catherine WILSON, ca 1753, TN -------------------------------Maternal Lines------------------------ Daniel B BLAUVELT, ca 1809, NY Jeanne Le MARQUAND, bef 1635, ChnlIs/Eng Frank A BURKE, Dec 1864, NY Margaret LORD, bef 1805?, ME Anna CLARA, ca 1855, Port Mary NATT, bef 1678?, NH Eben CLEMENTS, bef 1805, ME Sylvanus NOCK, bef 1692, ? Deacon Samuel COPP, bef 1789, ME Noel RICART, bef 1622, Eng ChnlIsl/Eng Alida DECKER, ca 1852, NY Anton SILVA, ca 1855, Port Sarah DRISCO(L), bef 1707, ME? Manuel J SOUZA, ca 1860, Port/MA/CA Robert EVANS, bef 1615, Eng/ME Mary Grace VINEYARD, bef 1838, MA/CA Hannah FRENCH, bef 1680, NH William WENTWORTH, bef 1633, MA Hannah HAYES, ca 1775, ME? Alexander Hamilton WILLARD, bef 1823, ?/CA Geo HUNT, bef 1692, NH ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Researching: Thomas D HOLMES born 6 May 1836 in Allegheny City, Allegheny Co, PA died 11 May 1918 in Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA son of Norval HOLMES & Margaret BELL wife Eliza Vencel BEERS born 1837 reportedly in Clarion County PA died 1 May 1898 in Allegheny City PA buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA She may be the Eliza listed in the following census entry: 1850 Allegheny City Sarah BEERS Margaret BEERS [email protected] Eliza BEERS [email protected] Matilda BEERS [email protected] Lavina BEERS [email protected] Additional children info: Diesera Lamar HOLMES 8 May 1856 - 17 Apr 1936 married Charles Reynolds LITTLE on 19 May 1874 in Pittsburgh PA buried at Homewood Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA Norval HOLMES 18 Sept 1858 - 1861 Sarah A HOLMES 22 Jan 1861 - 13 Nov 1949 married John CRAIG buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA Matilda B HOLMES 16 Sept 1864 - Aug 1948 married Robert B Hamilton WILLS buried at Union Dale Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA Lavina HOLMES 3 Jul 1867 - 5 Feb 1928 married William B ANDERSON buried at Highwood Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA John B HOLMES 14 May 1870 - unk married Margaret GORDON Lewis W HOLMES 15 Nov 1872 - 6 Sept 1952 married Edna BLACKSTOCK Eliza Vencel 'Lida' HOLMES 23 Jul 1875 - 21 Oct 1918 married Paul R STEGER buried Chartiers Cemetery, Pittsburgh PA Thomas Bayne HOLMES 14 May 1878 - Jan 1970 ? married Ada E OSBORN buried Myrtle Hill Memorial Park, Tampa FL Louisa Wilson HOLMES 27 Jun 1902 - 23 Feb 1978 married Walter C BURKHISER Looking to exchange information. Martha Little [email protected]

Hi All This is my first message to thought I'd tell you about my Holmes connection. My mysterious great grandfather, Frederick Montague Seymour HOLMES, came to Australia in 1852. He had been a clerk for the Great Western Railway Coy in London for 3 years, stationed at Paddington. He was twenty. I have letters written on his behalf to Governor La Trobe here in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia asking for employment as a clerk. Consequently he was given a position as clerk for the Gold Commission, but soon threw it all in to become a boundary rider and groom on country stations. When we tried to discover his roots it was as if he had deliberately destroyed all traces. We finally tracked him down on the 1851 census living with his parents and siblings in Hanover Square, London. His father Henry HOLMES was a hairdresser in the same area, but gave his birthplace as GREAT YARMOUTH. >From his age this would have been in 1793. His mother was Mary, born in Kingsbury Green, Middlesex, but no maiden name given. Family was as follows: Henry (1821) Laura (1828) Edward (1830) FMS (1832) Charles (1836) George (1838) Francis (1841). Neither George nor Francis appear in the St Cath's indexes, and a London researcher has been unable to find any of the baptisms in or near St George Hanover Square. The gap between Henry and Laura would suggest a second marriage do you agree? Another interesting aspect of the mystery is that on the 1841 census Mary was in Middlesex with the younger children while Henry was in Hanover Square with the older ones. Well, that's the gist of the story. Looking forward to suggestions as to where to go next, especially as I'll be going to London in May and hope to look up some of the less obvious sources. Regards Beryl O'Gorman Greensborough, Victoria, Australia

I am researching the family of Norval HOLMES (1811 - 2 Mar 1875) who married (1) Margaret BELL 1818-1854 and (2) Elizabeth [email protected] He lived for most of life in Allegheny City and Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA. Norval's children included the following: Thomas D HOLMES 1836-1918 John B HOLMES 1838-1912 Lewis W HOLMES 1841-1864 William E HOLMES 1845-1870 George Quail HOLMES 1850-1910 Nettie HOLMES [email protected] Norval HOLMES Jr [email protected] Sarah HOLMES [email protected] Benjamin F D HOLMES 1872-1874 William P W HOLMES 1872-1873 Norval's parentage is still unknown. Public records have him choosing a John PATTERSON as his guardian in 1827. It is unknown if this person was a relation. Looking for other researching the same for exchange of information. Martha Little

Isreal Holmes born 1831 New York lived in Illinois from 1850 prox to 1885. Lived Iowa until death in 1914. Looking for children: Frank, Lester, Edgar, Myrtle (m.Thomas Russell) and Herman. Many are buried in Iowa.

I am trying to identify parents and siblings of Dr George Holmes, a physician in Belmont, Maine in mid 1800's. Any information about George or his family would be appreciated. Dave Collins

Seeking information as to the parents of MOSES HOLMES of Greenfield, NY (b. 16 Jan 1774 in Putnam Co,NY; d. 27 Apr 1856 in Greenfield, NY) and his wife, MARY WRIGHT (b. 9 May 1777 in Putnam Co.?, NY; d.3 Mar 1848 in Greenfield, NY) who had 2-3 sons (??, Harvey, Wright) before they moved from Putnam Co to the Leurenkill area in 1800 and then to Greenfield/ Dairyland in Ulster Co., NY in 1810. [email protected]

Christopher, My HOLMES line comes from Cattaraugus Co. NY and McKean Co. PA. I know very little about them. I have traced back to William (d 1895) who was a surveyor and married Georgia E. HILBERT. They had two children: Hazel (my grandmother--1891-1971) and Harry (b 1887). William died young and Georgia remarried. Could there be a connection here? Steve Cummins -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Holmes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, December 04, 1998 01:36 Subject: Frederick C. Holmes--1836/8-1862 >Been working on other areas of the family, and decided it was finally time >to focus on where my last name came from. Would appreciate any help you can >give. > >I need help with the following individuals: > >Frederick C. Holmes >b. 1836 (1838?) >d. June, 14, 1862 (Civil War, Frederick Holmes was killed in the Civil War. >He was in the Pennsylvania Bucktail Regiment.) > > PA Civil War Records has following card entry for Frederick C. Holmes: > 1-13 Reserve > 42nd Regiment > Enrolled 5-30-1861 at McKean County, PA > M.I. 5-30-1861 as Pvt. at Harrisburg, PA > M.O. _____________ > Discharged _____________ > Age at Enrollment 33 Complexion Dark > Height 5'6 1/2" Eyes Blue > Hair Brown Occupation Carpenter > Residence McKean County, PA > Remarks: Promoted to Corp. date unknown. Wounded at Harrisburg >6-6-1862, died 6-14-1862. > >I am in the process of obtaining service and pension records from National >Archives, wanted to know if anyone else linked to him or his family. > >I have been led to believe that Mark Mills Holmes (below) is the grandson of >Frederick C. Holmes. I do not know father or mother of Mark Mills Holmes at >this time. > >1) Mark Mills Holmes > b. 1876, Olean NY > d. 1966, Olean NY > m. Jessie Luther > b. 1877, Olean NY > d. 1952, Olean NY > (1) James Richmond Holmes > b. December 5, 1910, Olean NY > d. January 28, 1969, Tulsa OK > m. Elizabeth Wright Riley > (2) Catherine Holmes > b. ??? > d. ??? > m. R. Conklin > >I have descendants of James Richmond Holmes, but no ancestors (except for >possible lead on Frederick C. Holmes). > >Thanks for your help. > >Christopher W. Holmes >_______________________ >Chris and Dawn Holmes >[email protected] >icq # 8352687 > > >

Been working on other areas of the family, and decided it was finally time to focus on where my last name came from. Would appreciate any help you can give. I need help with the following individuals: Frederick C. Holmes b. 1836 (1838?) d. June, 14, 1862 (Civil War, Frederick Holmes was killed in the Civil War. He was in the Pennsylvania Bucktail Regiment.) PA Civil War Records has following card entry for Frederick C. Holmes: 1-13 Reserve 42nd Regiment Enrolled 5-30-1861 at McKean County, PA M.I. 5-30-1861 as Pvt. at Harrisburg, PA M.O. _____________ Discharged _____________ Age at Enrollment 33 Complexion Dark Height 5'6 1/2" Eyes Blue Hair Brown Occupation Carpenter Residence McKean County, PA Remarks: Promoted to Corp. date unknown. Wounded at Harrisburg 6-6-1862, died 6-14-1862. I am in the process of obtaining service and pension records from National Archives, wanted to know if anyone else linked to him or his family. I have been led to believe that Mark Mills Holmes (below) is the grandson of Frederick C. Holmes. I do not know father or mother of Mark Mills Holmes at this time. 1) Mark Mills Holmes b. 1876, Olean NY d. 1966, Olean NY m. Jessie Luther b. 1877, Olean NY d. 1952, Olean NY (1) James Richmond Holmes b. December 5, 1910, Olean NY d. January 28, 1969, Tulsa OK m. Elizabeth Wright Riley (2) Catherine Holmes b. ??? d. ??? m. R. Conklin I have descendants of James Richmond Holmes, but no ancestors (except for possible lead on Frederick C. Holmes). Thanks for your help. Christopher W. Holmes _______________________ Chris and Dawn Holmes [email protected] icq # 8352687

Looking for the children of Warren Homes - born 1849 in LA - and Belle C. Douglas. They were married in 1874 in LA. I know that they had one son, Joseph M. Homes - born abt. 1880 in LA. Joseph left the New Orleans area about 1905 to "go north". I have nothing further on him. Warren Homes was the son of Luther Homes - born 1814 in MASS. I would greatly appreciate any help or leads on Joseph Homes or other children of Warren and Belle Homes. Thanks, Cassie Homes