There was a Nathaniel HOLMES in the Kilburn area of Middlesex in the early 1800s. I'll see if I can unearth the information if you're interested. Beryl -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, 25 January 1999 6:07 Subject: New Search >Morning.. Does anyone have information re: Nathaniel Holmes >Sr. b. 1757 in Strabane, Tyrone Co., Ireland, d. 1834 >probably PA., married Hannah Hand probably in PA. >Thank you.. Carolyn >

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Though I don't know about Ms. Hutchinson, I do know about Holmes's in Washington County, PA, before and after the Rev. War. There is a book The Brown and Comly Families Genealogy. It has most of the story of the James Holmes (1748-1823). He and his wife Ann (Nancy) Whitaker Holmes had thirteen sons and one daughter. My guess is that your James is from this family Susan Mougalian

Morning.. Does anyone have information re: Nathaniel Holmes Sr. b. 1757 in Strabane, Tyrone Co., Ireland, d. 1834 probably PA., married Hannah Hand probably in PA. Thank you.. Carolyn

I have a large list of HOLMES married in TN and also a larger list of Holmes in Tennessee, abt 1850... If you'd like me to check what I have, send me your Holmes name and wifes name..I'll see if it's on here. Carolyn

Need information re Elizabeth Hutchinson who m James Holmes in 1821 Washington Co. Pa.She died 1829. She was the daughter of James Hutchison. Had children Elizabeth, James, Margaret and John. Any info appreciated. Cleona

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I'm particularly interested in a William Holmes, born 1760, who was this William's father: (From: HISTORY OF INDIANAPOLIS AND MARION COUNTY INDIANA, by B.R. Sulgrove. Philadelphia, L.H. Everts & Co., 1884. Pg 656.) "William Holmes, the northeast quarter of section 8, in township 15, range 3; the west half of the northwest quarter of the same section; and the west half of the northwest quarter of section 9, same township and range. Mr. Holmes was born in Westmoreland County, Pa., in 1792, emigrated with his father’s family to Ohio in 1800, and in 1820 removed to Wayne County, Ind. In 1821 he married Elizabeth Lyons, and settled on his lands in Wayne Township, Marion Co., where he made his home during the remainder of his life. He built the Billy Holmes saw-mill on Eagle Creek, just below the National road bridge. In 1832 he was one of those who volunteered for service in the Black Hawk war. He was the father of William Canada Holmes, one of the best-known citizens of Marion County, and also of eleven other children, viz.: John B., Jonathan L., Ira N. Isaiah, Jeremiah, Uriah, Noah P., Marcia Ann, Martha Ann, Elizabeth, and Sarah. He died in 1859. His younger brother, John, came to this county with him, and settled in Wayne, on the northwest quarter of section 8, township 15, range 3. He, with his brother William, took the contract for the brick-work of the old (first) courthouse of Marion County. John also built the Kunkle mill, in Wayne township. He died a few years after he made his settlement here." Sound familiar to anyone (besides Dee, of course!)? Is anyone interested in doing a "Most Wanted" project again? It's been a while. I posted these odds and ends a couple of years ago after my last visit to the Family History Library. But because we have so many new subscribers to the Holmes list, here they are again. If you find anything that helps you, let me (and the rest of the list) know. >From Various Washington County, PA Sources (mostly tax records): Holmes, Abraham, Strabane Twp 1784 Holmes, Andrew, Nottingham Twp 1793 Holmes, Christian, Somerset Twp 1783, 4 horse 3 cow 1 sheep L30/10 Holmes, Dr. David, Cecil Twp 1783, L10 Holmes, Francey, Nottingham Twp, 1785, no data Holmes, Francis, Strabane Twp 1790, 2>10 1<10 4 female Holmes, Henry, Donegal Twp 1783. 300A, L150 Holmes, Henry, Strabane Twp 1790, 2>10 1<10 5 females Holmes, Henry, Strabane Twp 1790, no data Holmes, Henry, Strabane Twp 1793, no data Holmes, James Jr., Smith Twp 1793, no data Holmes, James, Evac. Lands in Smith Twp 1793, 300A, L112/10 Holmes, James, Smith Twp 1784, no data Holmes, James, Smith Twp 1790 1>10 5<10, 1 female Holmes, James, Smith Twp 1790, 1>10 5<10, 1 female Holmes, John, Robinson Twp 1793, no data Holmes, Joseph Evacuated Lands in Smiths Twp 1783, 300A, L80 Holmes, Joseph, Cecil Twp 1783, SF, L10 Holmes, Joseph, Cecil Twp 1783, 1 horse, L10, SF Holmes, Joseph, Evac. Lands in Smith Twp 1783, 300A, L112/10 Holmes, Joseph, Cecil Twp 1784, SF Holmes, Joseph, Chartiers Twp 1790 1>10 Holmes, Joseph, Chartiers 1793, SF Holmes, Obediah, Cecil Twp 1781, 1 horse L6, SF Holmes, Obediah; Cecil Twp 1783, 200A, L75 Holmes, Obediah, Cecil Twp 1783, 200A 1 horse 2 cow 4 sheep, L46 Holmes, Obediah, Strabane Twp 1784, no data Holmes, Obediah, Fayette Twp 1790 1>10 1<10 1female Holmes, Robert, Robinson Twp 1790 1>10 1<10 1 female Holmes, Robert, Smith Twp 1784, no data Holmes, Robert, Smith Twp 1793, no data Holmes, Thomas, Donegal Twp 1790 1>10 2<10 2 females Holmes, Thomas, Greene Twp 1790 1>10 2<10 1 female Holmes, Thomas, Hanover Twp 1793, no data Holmes, Thos, Donegal Twp 1790, 1>10 2<10 2 females Holmes, William, Cecil Twp 1781, 120A, 1 horse 3 cows 3 sheep, L76 Holmes, William, Cecil Twp 1783, 400A 2 horse 3 cow 2 sheep, L153 Holmes, William, Nottingham Twp 1783, 1 horse,. 1 cow, 4 sheep, L13/10 Holmes, William, Chartiers Twp 1790, 1>10 1<10 3 females Holmes, William, Chartiers Twp 1798 from: from Miami Valley OH search site (http://www.pcdl.lib.oh.us/miami/getdata.htm) Name Key Year Src Book Page Relevant Co Holmes, William |tx |1804 |Tax | | | |Mt Holmes, William |Tx |1809 |Tax | | |German Township |Mt Holmes, William |tx |1810 |Tax | | | |Mt Holmes, William |tx |1816 |Tax | | | |Mt Holmes, William |tx |1818 |Tax |407 |53-55| |Ck Holmes, William |M |1820 |Marr | A | |Lyon, Elizabeth |Mt Holmes, William |fc |1820 |Cen | |119 |Jackson Township |Mt Holmes, William |fc |1830 |Cen | |153 |Ross Twp |Bu Holmes, William |fc |1830 |Cen | |329 |Town of Bellbrook |Gr Holmes, William |fc |1830 |Cen | |064 |Cincinnati Ward 3 |Ha Holmes, William |M |1832 |Marr | | |Phillips, Polly |Ck Holmes, William |fc |1840 |Cen | |003 |Ross Township |Bu Holmes, William |fc |1840 |Cen | |215 |Sugar Creek Township |Gr Holmes, William |M |1847 |Marr | | |Pemberton, Caroline |Ck Holmes, William |fc |1880 |Cen | |605A |National Military Home|Mt Holmes, William |fc |1880 |Cen | |364C |Springfield Ward 6 |Ck ****** One day I shall burst my bud of calm and blossom into hysteria. Judith B. Glad 503/761-7933

Who ever just asked me about William Holmes and Jane Thompson.. I found their marriage/or when marriage bond was posted... Holmes, WM. to Thompson, Jane, 8 Jan. 1840 Bondsman: J.C. Patterson Bk. 2 Orange County, NC. Carolyn

I am looking for descendents of William and Washington Holmes. They are listed in 1831, Fauquier Co. Va. in the guardian case of Margaret Francis daughter of Joseph Francis. The Francis family was also related to the Holmes family. Washington Holmes is also listed 1825 as a purchaser in the estate sale of his grandmother Anna Hill Holmes. Valerie Holmes Thomas [email protected] http://members.xoom.com/holmes2/holmes.htm

--We are searching for the descendants of John Holmes, clockmaker, the Strand, LONDON, ENGLAND 1762 – 1797. children of John Holmes were 1 Mr. John HOLMES b: abt 1728, Yorkshire, UK, d: 7 February 1797 156 The Strand, London, UK, Clockmaker, married Miss. ??? 2 Miss. Mary HOLMES b: Abt. 1756 married Mr. PARKER 2 Miss. Phebe HOLMES b: Abt. 1758 married Capt RN Arthur MAXWELL m: Abt. 1779 2 Miss. Sarah HOLMES b: Abt. 1760 married William HODGKINSON m: 29 September 1785 St Mary-le-Strand, Westminster 2 Miss. Faith HOLMES b: Abt. 1762 married Thomas Edward BARKER m: 14 March 1807 St Clement Danes, Westminster 2 Mr. William HOLMES b: Abt. 1764 d: Aft. 13 February 1807 *2nd Wife of John Holmes: . +Miss. Sarah BROADBENT b: 30 July 1747 Barwick-in-Elmet, Yorkshire m: 8 June 1769 All Saints, Barwick-in-Elmet, West Riding, Yorks, UK d: Aft. 1797 2 Miss. Ann HOLMES b: Bef. April 1776 2 Miss. Lucy HOLMES b: Bef. April 1776 married Thomas Charles Francis DOWNMAN 14 June 1804 Greenwich. Lucy probably died about 1820 as he remarried. 2 Mr. John Smeaton HOLMES b: 7 October 1776 2 Mr. Joseph HOLMES b: 7 February 1777 2 Rev James Ivory HOLMES b: 24 September 1779 Westminster, London d: 15 August 1868 Heavitree, Exeter, Devon married Elanor Posthuma HARRISON b: 30 October 1792 bapt in Banstead Surrey m: 30 April 1816 Ewell, Surrey d: 23 March 1858 Exeter, Devon WE’VE GOT THIS LOT! James was my ggggrandfather. 2 Mr. Henry HOLMES b: 13 February 1782 2 Mr. Charles M HOLMES b: 22 October 1787 All information gratefully received! Malcolm Glennie Holmes in Wagga Wagga Australia

Hey Y'all, I finally got my home page started. You can go and see for yourself. My HOLMES line actually starts at the end of generation No. 3 right now, and continues throughout generation no.4. Let me know if anyone out there has any info that should be here. Thanks www.familytreemaker.com/users/s/e/r/Pamela-K-Serda/index.html Pam James Hampton O.,1822,AL>Daniel O.,1855,AL>Mary Eboline O.,1875,AL (m. R.W.Holmes)>Clayton Holmes,1903>Glenn Holmes,1931,TX

Listee's I am trying to trace a HOLMES ancestor in Greenwich. Zadock Bates HOLMES appears in a marriage in New York City 1837. His Census listings indicate that he was born in Conn. in about 1812. My only connection to Greenwich is the fact that a Bates HOLMES resided there (1810, 1820 census). Assuming that Bates was a family name of his mother or grandmother, Zadock might certainly have been given that as his middle name. Bates was married to Mary BANKS in 1809 at the 2nd Cong. Church, and to Elizabeth BANKS in 1804 at the Stanwich Cong. Church. They may have been sisters, although Spencer Mead mentions only Mary. Bates died in 1859 and is buried in 'North Greenwich'. There were 4 HOLMES in Greenwich in 1800, but only Rueben had a male in household between 16 & 26, which would have been Bates' age at that time. Bates had a daughter Sally who joined the 2nd Cong Church in 1831. The 1820 Census shows 5 children in Bates' household but of course they might not have all been his. It also shows two males over 45, so Bates could have had a brother and children living with him. It also show no female over 16 yrs, so Mary may have died by that time. Any clue on the above would be greatly appreciated. Bill S

Could your GARNETT Holmes be actually GARNER? IF so I found on born 25 April 1804 married Milley Turner. His first name was Albert...

I am trying to find Valerie M. Taylor, reguarding her Holmes line, and the email I send to her keeps coming back to me.. Please email me... Carolyn

Just heard from my Aunt that we had a Joe Walton Holmes in our family.. she was my Aunts dad.. I have heard Waltons Mt. (No relation to John boy... thank goodness!) was named after him. I think but not sure it's in Kentucky. Does anyone know anything about this man?? Hope to hear from someone :) Carolyn

John HOLMES b 1792 Northampton Co NC m ca 1819 Phada PERRY b 1797 NC John & Phada and all their children both single & married moved to Madison Co. Tn THE John HOLMES family moved to Perry & Yell Co Ar in 1856' from Madison Co Tn Children of John HOLMES & Phada PERRY Burrell W HOLMES b 1820 m Mary Levenia DELOACH Susan . W HOLMES b 1824 m William J G KING William H HOLMES b 1825 m Susan Elizabeth THOMPSON Martha Mildred HOLMES b 1827m Henry W. DAVIS Turner P HOLMES b 1829 ,m Cherry Ann HICKS Jesse W HOLMES b 1832 m Martha E COBB Jane HOLMES b 1833 m William HARRISON George Thomas HOLMES b 1836 m Aurelia Philadelphia CRAIG Rebecca A HOLMES b 1842 m JAMES COBB I have a lot more info on all of these. Hope someone is working on this line. Betty Lyon STARRETT Jacksonville, Ar [email protected]

Hello all, I am in hopes that someone will know this line and can help me, this is all I have gotten.It does need help! Gideon Holmes b.? where ?? spouce unknown to me... Ezekiel s/of Gideon b.1785 Ga. spouce Lavina b.abt 1798 SC. last name unknown..... William N.Holmes or William H.Holmes b.1816/1817 Ga. spouce S.A.or Lucy Ann last name unknown b.abt 1820 state unknown.. children of William and Lucy are Emily, Sarah, Martha, Lavina, Amanda, James. Lavina is my gr,gr,grandmother. She moved to Clay,Co.NC. about 1873 with Elisha Cheek. Anyone have this family?? Wish to hear from you. Thanks Debra

Hi fellow list members... I have an address for my gggrandfather, Thomas HOLMES, from the 1850 NY Census... 7 Essex St., NYC. Would someone please check the 1855-56 NYC Directory(ies) to see if he is still listed at this same address? If not, would you kindly look for other possible addresses for him? Thanks... Jackie [email protected]

I am researching the family of Norval HOLMES (1811 - 2 Mar 1875) who married (1) Margaret BELL 1818-1854 and (2) Elizabeth [email protected] He lived for most of life in Allegheny City and Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co, PA. Norval's children included the following: with Margaret BELL Thomas D HOLMES 1836-1918 John B HOLMES 1838-1912 Lewis W HOLMES 1841-1864 William E HOLMES 1845-1870 George Quail HOLMES 1850-1910 with Elizabeth Nettie HOLMES [email protected] Norval HOLMES Jr [email protected] Sarah HOLMES [email protected] Benjamin F D HOLMES 1872-1874 William P W HOLMES 1872-1873 Norval's parentage is still unknown. Public records have him choosing a John PATTERSON as his guardian in 1827. It is unknown if this person was a relation. Elizabeth HOLMES and children disappear from Allegheny Co PA Census in 1880. It may be possible that Elizabeth remarried and went to TX. Daughter Sarah is believed to have married a John MCCASKILL. Looking for other researching the same for exchange of information. Martha Little