Hi, My earliest Holmes is John b. Nov. 18, 1686 in Marshfield, MA Married Hannah Pearson in Newbury, MA. Had children: Mary (m. Blaisdell & Walker), Hannah (m. Knight), Sarah (m. Hardy), Benjamin and Mehitable. He died 2 June, 1766 in Rowley, MA Would like to connect with someone somewhere about any of the above. Thanks - Ruth

My earliest Holmes is John Holmes b. 1770-1780 NC, married Sarah Scott 25 Feb 1807 in Jessamine Co., KY. He was in Woodford Co., KY on the 1810 census and was in Lawrence Co., IN ca 1816 where he was listed on the 1820, 1830, and 1840 census. Most of the children of John and Sarah were in Fulton Co., IL by 1850 census.

This is Donna and my Oldest known Holmes is : James Holmes born abt 1850-60 in Illinois married to a Smith (I think) At least that is what was on my Grandfathers Marriage certificate. My maiden name is Holmes.

Hello fellow Holmes descendants My oldest Holmes is: Henry Holm(e)s, married 1622 at St. Paul's, Canterbury, Kent (England) to Ann Kingsland. No sign of his birth - most frustrating! You'll notice from my signature that the Holmes line in my direct family hasn't moved very far - indeed - my office is a mere quarter of a mile from St. Paul's church. I have found ONE person who connects to my enormous tree in all my years of researching my Holmes line - any other takers? I am researching Holmes in East Kent ONLY. If anyone wants searches of my Holmes database for East Kent (still incomplete after all these years), do let me know - I'll be back after the weekend. Regards, Shelagh Mason ---------------------- [email protected] Mrs. Shelagh Mason Science Administrator Canterbury Christ Church University College Canterbury, Kent, England CT1 1QU

Does this surname "LUPA" mean anything to anyone in the Holmes branch? I have a picture of the gravestone, with my GGrandparents grave stones. So it must be there for a reason. Please let me know... Carolyn

Hi, my name is Brenda, and my Last Holmes is: William Holmes, born around 1783 S.C. Married Elizabeth Yarborough around 1800 in Tenn William resided in Perry Co Tenn in 1840 and by 1842 was in Searcy Co Ark. WIlliam Holmes died before 1860 in VanBuren Co Ark. I THINK is father may be James Holmes of S.C. William and Elizabeth Holmes children were: Abram B 1802 James B 1807 Welcome B 1814 George Washington B 1815 Benjamin B 1816 Jacob L B 1819 William B 1821 Elizabeth Ann B 1825 I decend from Welcome Holmes.

My line is from Elisha Warren HOLMES, b. 6 Jul 1773 Ireland, d. 25 Feb 1846 Pike Co., MS, buried Bennie Carr property E. of Tylertown, MS. Married Sarah "Sallie" STOVALL, b. 1795 Granville Co., NC, d. 1850 Pike Co., MS. They settled on Collins Creek, Pike Co., MS in the early part of 1800. They were the original ancestors of the extensive Holmes family in Pike County, MS. His home was located near the present town of Tylertown.

Our oldest known Holmes is William H. Holmes b. 1799 in VA; married Mary Ann Sly in Norfolk, VA. 1820. By 1835 family was in KY and before 1860 located in Carroll Co. MO. I am relatively new to Holmes list. Richard C. Holmes

This is Carolyn and my oldest known Holmes is Thomas Holmes born 1776 in either England and Ireland, married Elizabeth Hall-Brown (Widow) born 8 Oct. 1799 in England. They ended up in Greenbrier, Robertson County Tennessee, where they died and are buried at Mt. Sharon Cemetery.

Repeat/reformat Jefferson Montgomery HOLMES b Oct 24,1830/31 in Tompkins County, New York. He was not in 1830/40/50 Tompkins Co Census or any other with his parents who were both born in New York according to 1880 Kansas Census. He married in Michigan in 1852. Bob Bouchell

At 1:09 PM -0500 2/11/99, Sharon Sergeant wrote: >Last year, Judith Glad came up with a great project for our winter doldrums >where we posted our earliest Holmes ancestor with general migration path and >dates. I have been working on another project to do with migration queries and >would like to do a Holmes project based on Judith's work last year. As I see it, the "Earliest Known HOLMES" project was a way of collecting a focused set of queries -- a set of questions, not a set of answers. For example, my "EKH" was from Connecticut, born in 1804, and went to Madison County, New York. Anyone who saw that and who had HOLMESes -- earliest known or otherwise -- in Connecticut at around that time, especially any who went to Madison County, could get in touch with me and say, here, could there be a connection? Anyone who had an EKH in Independence, Iowa around 1900 wouldn't benefit from my posting -- but I could reply to *their* posting to say a grandson of my EKH moved to Independence near the end of the 19th century. Looking back at your message, I guess you're thinking in terms of a database of migration paths, not a database of queries regarding earliest known HOLMESes. That's really quite a different thing, and using the phrase "earliest known HOLMES" in connection with it is, I think, a little confusing. >How much detail would you like to see in such an overview style database? >Do you want to know if a date or date range is based on birth, marriage, >death, census, christening/baptism, land, church, business/civic, newspaper, >genealogy/history pubs, family bible or family recollection? Nope. Too much clutter. These details can and should be supplied in correspondance with the submitter, to make the database of queries less cumbersome to use... or via a link to a web site where the query submitter has additional information. I think for a database like this to be useable it needs to have concise, well-organized information, and pointers to more details if they're desired. >Do you want to know what the related families were in a particular area? Yes -- that would be useful. >Do you want the locations broken down into country.st/province.county.town >detail ? Absolutely. >I have constructed a somewhat detailed form that you can look at at >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7945/FamilyUpdate.htm >but think that that is too detailed, so I would like to find a middle ground >between that level of detail and my sample summary above. I haven't gone to your web page, but I thought the sample summary had too much in it -- too many names, anyway, and too much repetition of places. If your focus really is on migration patterns I think I'd set it up with data records keyed by place names; in each record would be an earliest (known) date and a latest, given name of the HOLMES who moved there, pointers to where the HOLMESes in that area came from and went to, and allied surnames in that area and brief comments. I'd cut it off no later than about 1925. Mine would look something like this: Submitter: Richard S. Holmes <[email protected]> Web site: <http://web.syr.edu/~rsholmes/genealogy/index.html> Place Start End Name From To 1 ?, ?, Connecticut, USA 1804 c1810? Hiram - 2 2 Hamilton, Madison, NY, USA c1810? c1910 Hiram 1 3,5 Allied: COOK, COLLINS, BLIVEN, BELDEN Comment: and Brookfield, Hamilton, NY, USA (neighboring town) for brief periods 3 Elgin, DuPage, IL, USA c1880 ? John C. 2 4 4 Independence, Buchanan, IA, USA ? ? John C. 3 - Allied: ROGERS 5 Cincinnatus, Cortland, NY, USA c1908 c1909 Clarence E. 2 6 6 Richfield Springs, Otsego, NY, USA c1909 c1912 Clarence E. 5 7 7 Albany, Albany, NY, USA c1912 c1915 Clarence E. 6 8 8 Schodack Ctr, Rensselaer, NY, USA c1915 c1920 Clarence E. 7 9 9 Nassau, Rensselaer, NY, USA c1920 1958 Clarence E. 8 - (The dates refer to the earliest and latest dates the HOLMES surname was there, not just the individual named. For instance, in line 2, Hiram HOLMES died in 1864 but his descendants were in Hamilton until about 1910. The numbers in the last two columns refer to the line numbers of the place they came from and the places they went to. For example, on line 5 (Cincinnatus) the family came there from the place in line 2 (Hamilton), and from Cincinnatus they went to the place on line 6 (Richfield Springs).) - Rich Holmes Morris: FLYING BARK (Newport News) Syracuse, NY / Genealogy: BELDEN (NY), COLLINS (NY,RI), CURRIER (NY,NH), Newport News, VA HANSEN (NY), HAYES (NY,CT), HOLMES (NY,CT), [email protected] JENSEN (NY), YORK (NY,CT)

Last year, Judith Glad came up with a great project for our winter doldrums where we posted our earliest Holmes ancestor with general migration path and dates. I have been working on another project to do with migration queries and would like to do a Holmes project based on Judith's work last year. Judith compiled these summary migration paths and organized the entries by state with the email contact for the submitter. I am working on a web page that will display these migration paths from last year's project, and will allow updates and new entries, so we can maintain a summary database of our list's research interests. I would also like to add some information to that database that helps us make connections. Here are some of my thoughts and I would like to hear from the list if there other things that you would like to see. First, I'll give you a summary of my Holmes family - all dates are "circa": Holmes .. England�. 1850 Lovejoy .. USA.ME..Fort Fairfield 1868 Holmes .. USA.ME.Washington.Eastport 1870 Mahar Lovejoy USA.ME..Fort Fairfield 1886 Holmes .. Canada.NB.Charlotte.Letete 1895 1904 Holmes Mahar Canada.NB.Charlotte.Letete 1903 1910 Crewe Arnett Canada.PEI.Prince.Crapaud 1903 1920 Robinson Lovejoy USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1905 1941 Holmes Mahar USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1906 1910 Holmes Towers Canada.NB.Charlotte.Letete 1907 1950 Holmes Towers USA.ME� 1907 Holmes Robinson USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1910 1928 Diffin .. USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1910 McNutt .. USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1910 Holmes Roosevelt �Campobello Island 1920 1944 Holmes Roosevelt Canada.NB.Charlotte.St Andrews 1920 1944 Spearin Robbinson USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1920 1953 Crewe Arnett USA.NH 1920 1945 Robinson Clark USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1926 Crewe Holmes USA.MA.Suffolk.Boston 1928 1945 Holmes Diffin USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1933 1974 Varnum Jean USA.MA.Middlesex.Hopkinton 1935 1955 Holmes Dick Canada.NB.Charlotte.St George 1940 Crewe Holmes USA.MA.Middlesex.Hopkinton 1945 1958 Varnum Crewe USA.MA.Middlesex.Hopkinton 1947 1967 McNutt Holmes USA.ME.Washington.Robbinston 1950 Varnum Jean USA.MA.Worcester.Southboro 1955 1967 Crewe Holmes USA.MA.Worcester.Grafton 1958 1961 Crewe .. USA.IN..Indianapolis 1961 1967 Varnum Crewe USA.MA.Worcester.Berlin 1967 1968 Varnum Crewe USA.MA.Worcester.Southboro 1967 1976 Crewe .. USA.MA.Worcester.Worcester 1967 1974 Robinson .. USA.CA..San Francisco 1970 The dates are based both on sources and conjecture: My gggf Irving Holmes is said to have come from England with two brothers to New Brunswick, Canada. Irving's wife Esther died in NB at age 45 in 1895, so I have guessed that Irving was born in England and was about the same age as Esther. I have some hard facts for dates from various sources, but as you all know, you guess at somethings to help you figure out where to look next. So, if we take last year's project results and post a database for updates and extensions, we would be starting from the following format: <earliest ancestor first name> Holmes, <various notes and dates> <various location formats and detail> How much detail would you like to see in such an overview style database? Do you want to know if a date or date range is based on birth, marriage, death, census, christening/baptism, land, church, business/civic, newspaper, genealogy/history pubs, family bible or family recollection? Do you want to know what the related families were in a particular area? Do you want the locations broken down into country.st/province.county.town detail ? Have you found that historic, economic or religious issues have played a major factor in your family's migration patterns? I have constructed a somewhat detailed form that you can look at at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7945/FamilyUpdate.htm but think that that is too detailed, so I would like to find a middle ground between that level of detail and my sample summary above. thanks for any help you can provide, Sharon ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=1

searching for a small needle in a very big haystack.Searching for Mary Holmes b. maybe in Va. around 1740? who married William POOLE jr. around 1756 in Va. They had atleast one son John b.1758 in Va. who would later marry Mahulda Holloway.Thanks for helping me with this search and rescue...kim

Here is another needle in the haystack... Does anyone have any of the following Holmes' in their files? Would be interested in talking to anyone that has even one of these names, even if the state is wrong and not sure of the dates: *These Holmes' were born late 1700s early 1800s Not sure of all the places Ireland, England, NC or PA or? Thomas b. abt 1776, James Henry Holmes b.? (that I know of) *Early 1800s to about mid 1800s Born PA>NC TN Thomas, Washington, James (Jim), John (that I know of) *Mid 1800s to late 1800s born TN>IL>? Arthur Washington, Albert Allen, James Monroe, Jesse Thomas, Fanny Dora, Sarah Elizabeth, Mary Magdelene, Henry Jefferson, Lola Etta. Hope to hear from someone with hopefully one of the names listed :) Thanks for all your help..Carolyn

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I apologize for jumping the gun and panicking. I found the web site I thought I lost. FOR ALL THOSE WHO E-MAILED for this address here it is. http://www.mit.edu:8001geo It is called Geographic Nameserver. I hope you find it as helpful as I have. ENJOY

HELP!!! Somehow I lost the address for the web site that list all the counties for every state. I'm lost without it. Someone on the Roots list passed it on not to awful long ago. Please e-mail me or post it again. THANKS

Isabella & James Holmes are in my family tree. This James died 28 Oct 1749. I know it isn't much to go on, but does anyone know of these two people? Thanks! Tracie Stanley

Looking for any information on the ancestors of Almira HOLMES. Almira was born on 9/16/1812, parents unknown, probably in the Springfield area of Massachusetts. Apparently she had a brother named Stephen G. (or S.) Holmes, who was an armorer in Springfield. Almira married Abner Belknap CRANE in 1832 and they had two daughters, one of whom died in infancy. Abner B. CRANE died on 3/13/1843 and Almira remarried a man named NICHOLS. She relocated to Troy, New York, where she lived until her death in July 1874.

Hello Holmes Researchers. I am still looking for any clues about my Henry HOLMES...please read thru and see if you recognize any possiblities. Thanks. Henry Holmes b. ca 1835, (in the 1870 Harris Co Tx census he is from NY, in the 1880 census he is from ILL. He was married to a Julia who in 1870 was from Ga and in 1880 was from LA) 1860 Galveston Co TX: (did they come by ship???) F R Cobb 74 male magistrate Eng Elizabeth 61 female Eng Pauline 11 female Tx H. Holmes 27 male brick mason NY Mary 26 female Ohio (I think, hard to read) Henry 6 male ILL? (hard to read) Harvard/Howard 3 male ILL? Donsena female 4/12 TX 1870 Harris Co Tx census shows the following : Henry Holmes J or JR.? 35 brickmason NY Julia 23 keep house GA Frank 15 M (looks like painter, but??) Ohio Howard 13 M ILL Edwin J. 7 M Tx Clara 4 F ILL Kramer, Phillip 32 M W Laborer Vermont? , Frank 26 M W blksmith " In 1880, Harris Co. TX shows: Holmes, H. 46 ILL ILL ILL Julia 32 LA Ed 16 TX Clara 14 Tx Jessie? 2 Tx Virg? 3/12 Tx My line follows that of Frank Henry Holmes. Frank Henry Holmes marr Elvira LAFOUR. It appears that wife Mary died sometime after the 1860 census, along with the female child Donsena. I am not sure where to look for Henry Holmes family... Ohio or ILL or NY.... I found a Henry Holmes b. 1835 in NY who went to ILL and I found where he and his wife Julia are buried there in Iroquois Co ILL. in 1919 and 1951... looks like the right people but in the wrong place---they had children in ILL and all lived and died there... Maybe this is a real reach but I am not sure. from Frank Henry Holmes Frank Henry b. ca 1855 Ohio or ILL marr. Elvira LaFour 1855-1917 May 7 1884 in Galveston, Tx Frank Henry and Elvira children: Joseph Henry Holmes b.1888-1956 marr Athena Harris 1885-1942 Dyer marr Ruby ____ Virginia Marr Jamie White Margie (Margaret) marr Clint Mayes Any help appreciated. Thanks Penny