--------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Fwd: Holliday etc - 1821 victualling list. Date: 97-08-29 19:50:53 EDT From: LarkinP To: Holliday-L@rootsweb.com This is reply to my inquiry about convict list. ~Paula~ --------------------- Forwarded message: From: abyrnes@intercoast.com.au (Alan Byrnes) To: LarkinP@aol.com Date: 97-08-29 14:24:17 EDT >Would it be possible to ask Alan Byrnes for any further information: >occupation, rations size etc. that is available from the lists? >John Holliday 2504 >Chas Howeiday (sic) 2596 >Holloway, George 1584 >Holloway, S. 1706 >I will report anything you may send to the HOLLIDAY Genealogy Discussion >Group so you will not receive multiple requests. That is very much appreciated :-) John Snelson sent me your query. I compiled the database and did the analysis. The complete entries in the list are: NAME HOW EMPLOYED RATION =============================================== George Holoway Woodcutter 1 1/2 S. Holloway Pennant Hills 1 1/2 John Holliday Brickmaker 1 1/2 Chas Howeiday Grose Farm 1 1/2 =============================================== The 1 1/2 rations indicate all were either convicts or emancipists, very probably the former. George (note - it is Holoway, not Holloway) was one of 52 woodcutters employed in the colony. S. Holloway was one of 96 employed at "Pennant Hills" which was a government farm, about six kilometres from the Parramatta River. It was a source of timber for the colony, particularly shingles. The similar employments may indicate a similar background prior to transportation. John was one of 92 brickmakers. There were three separate gangs. I do not know what site he was working at. Chas Howeiday was one of 138 with `Grose Farm' in their `How Employed' column. There are no overseers listed but there is a connection between Grose Farm and two earlier entries. One is George Ibbotson, with overseer in his `How Employed' column. He is shown on the return of December 1820 as `Bullock breaker, Grose Farm'. (Note: I have extracted some text from my analysis - the return of December 1820 is a reference to another document.) Grose Farm was about three kilometres from Sydney and used for supplying grass and grain for Government working horses and oxen. By the title of an overseer there it was also used for breaking in bullocks - in other words, Chas may have had an agricultural background prior to transportation. Victualling was done weekly which means lists were compiled weekly and were only a routine chore for clerks. This particular list covered 68 foolscap pages. It seems it is the only copy of a victualling list which has survived. Persons victualled were: 1. Free settlers and emancipists whose position entitled them to a weekly ration. In many cases, their family and servants were also victualled. 2. Convicts employed by the Government. 3. The Military. 4. Objects of charity. The reason for the list was only to satisfy an accountancy system and not to record accurate details of the recipients. That is, the list is NOT a muster. It is of most use to researchers who know the name of a person who was in the Colony of New South Wales in September, 1821. The position of that person's name on the list may then provide information about what that person was doing and their location on September 8, 1821. RATIONS are either a quarter (for children), half (for women), one (for men) or one and a half (for convict workers). The quantity of a ration changed during Macquarie's period depending on available food but as at September, 1821 the weekly ration would have probably consisted of seven pounds of either beef or mutton, seven pounds of flour plus sugar, tea and some vegetables. On September 8, 1821 a total of 4,388 persons were issued with rations. The number of rations was 5,440½ The magnitude of the weekly victualling would have been considerable, the meat alone was more than seventeen tonnes. Alan Byrnes.