Hi, It's cousin Linda in TX. Watching this Thomas discussion is wonderful. I too am ardently trying to the "rock" where Thomas is hiding. The item on Hoffelbauer. I have been working on that one. The spellings vary. What else! This Palantine ships seem like good sources. They also have names similar to Stutes on many on them. And the ages well within line. The info on the ship for names like Hoffelbauer is: The Patience 1748 http://www.execpc.com/~trarbach/Patience/1748Patience.html [List 122 A] List of Mens Names & Ages imported in the Ship Patience, Capt. John Brown. [Qualified Sept. 16, 1748] Philip Hefelbower 30 Heifelbower 24 Also at this site Hoffelbauer is found: Cumberalnd HIstorical Society Famiy files. http://www.historicalsociety.com/ HOEFELBAUER I also have found some interesting spellings for the name on ships with various spellings for Stutes. Would be great if we can zero in on these PA names, but most seem to deadend. Maybe someone out there can get further than I have. We will find this man........ Anyone on the same research line please contact me. Good luck to us all. Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie <CharlieH@wt.net> > To: HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com <HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: Aufpan > > > >Anna Marie, > > > >sjhayes wrote: > >> > >> Charlie: Could you understand the spelling of Aufpan if you > said it out > >> loud? "Auf..." says "off" and "...pan" might really have > been "...par". > >> Therefore you would have "Offpar". I don't think it is too far fetched > to > >> think the recorder of the Churchhill data could have miss understood a > >> handwriting and read "pan" in stead of "par", do you? > >> > > > >This sounds very reasonable, and is basically what another list > >member said in a direct e-mail from California. > > > >> And along these lines what is your thinking about the spelling > in Natchez > >> for HOFFPAUIR as HOFFPAVER and HASPOWER? It seems in land records of > 1806 > >> Thomas signed his name HOFFPAUIR and it appears in several places. He > was > >> very inventive to come up with a name like this out of the blue. Looks > like > >> he could have chosen a name that other could spell correctly > and the same > >> with out fail, don't you think? Why wouldn't he just start calling > himself > >> Thomas Huff? Would that have been easier. Hey, Thomas; why > didn't you > do > >> that? > >> > >I'm not really surprised by any spelling I find, since I find so > >may different spellings even in "modern" times. The SSDI has our > >name spelled (or mis-spelled) as > >Hoffower > >Hoffpantr > >Hoffpanir > >Hoffpavir > >Hoffpouir > >Hoffpowier > >Hoffrauir > >Huffpower > > > > > >> Or, do you think it could be HOFFELBAUER? There were two HOFFELBAUERs > who > >> came to PA in 1748 from Rotterdam. There might be a possibility that > >> Thomas was a descendant of one of these two. It might explain the > >> connection to Marie Charlotte PERRILLARD too, since PA is a lot closer > in > >> proximity to Quebec. Any thought? > >> > > > >Now this is a story that I had not heard before. I find this very > >interesting, and certainly worth spending some time looking into. > >The timing is about right... do you have a ship or any other data > >on these two Hoffelbauers? > > > >And thanks for the comments.... I really think you're right.... > >if he would have made the name up, why didn't he choose something > >much more easily written, the equivalent of Smith or Jones? > > > >> Just thought I would put me two cents in and stop lurking :o) > Sure wish > we > >> could solve this "mystery of the man from under a rock". > >> > > > >I think that Felton's phrase will find itself into the family > >history now. I intend to insert it in my description of Thomas > >when I update his web page. <vbg> > > > > > >> Sincerely, > >> Anna Marie Hayes > >> > > > >-- > >Charlie > > > > > >==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > >If you're into genealogy, consider joining RootsWeb...... > >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > >