Sharon, I don't believe that Starkus and Malissa were twins, in fact, I believe that they were born about a year apart. I use as my reference for this the fact that they are both listed as children in the household of Nathan Hoffpauir in the 1860 census of Lafayette Parish. Starkus is listed as Mackor (?) 2 years old, and Mallisa is listed as Malian, 1 year old. This kind of entry seems unlikely if they were actually twins. To view this information, go to this URL: ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/la/lafayette/census/laf1860.txt and use your browser to search for "Naham Hoffpauir" (note the spelling is Naham, not Nathan). DULCICH6@aol.com wrote: > > Hello again, > I have a question. My records show that Francis Hoffpauir and his sister > Amilda married their cousins Malissa and Starkus Hoffpauir. Malissa and > Starkus were also siblings. My question is this....were Malissa and Starkus > also twins? My records show they were both born in 1858. Now, I realize that > this doesn't necessarily mean they were twins, but they might be and I recall > my dad saying something about twins and his mother's family. Does anyone have > any info on this? > > Happy New Millennium, > Sharon Dulcich > > ==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > Please only use the HOFFPAUIR-L list for genealogy messages. > Any message or question about the Hoffpauir family is acceptable. > This includes all surnames that are descended from one of the > Hoffpauirs. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/

Thank you Charlie and Barbara for the reply re: Starkus and Malissa. I have Malissa's birthdate (from her headstone) as 1858. I'm still trying to sort out this part of my family. Just as a side note, my daughter is named for Malissa. I visited Malissa's grave with my Aunt Mary Ruth (Griffin Lawton) when I was 16 and fell in love with that name. Best regards, Sharon

Hello again, I have a question. My records show that Francis Hoffpauir and his sister Amilda married their cousins Malissa and Starkus Hoffpauir. Malissa and Starkus were also siblings. My question is this....were Malissa and Starkus also twins? My records show they were both born in 1858. Now, I realize that this doesn't necessarily mean they were twins, but they might be and I recall my dad saying something about twins and his mother's family. Does anyone have any info on this? Happy New Millennium, Sharon Dulcich

Sharon, This is interesting and very important information. However, Frank must have been talking about his great-grandfather, Thomas. His Grandfather was Francois Hoffpauir, born in about 1781 in the Opelousas Territory, Louisiana. Also fascinating is the story about going from Germany to France and marrying a French girl..... If we assume Frank was speaking about Thomas here, this sounds very plausible. If so, it "may" hint that Thomas had a previous wife. At least it gives us some more places to look for further information. I'm looking forward to hearing more from your Aunt Margie. Also, when you get a chance, ask her where and when she married. DULCICH6@aol.com wrote: > > Hello list, > I have recently had correspondence from my aunt Margie in Amite, LA > regarding her grandfather, Frank Hoffpauir. I had enquired of her whether or > not her grandfather's family did indeed speak French in the home as was > reported to me. Marjorie Mae Griffin Young is the youngest daughter of > Mineola Hoffpauir and Daniel Griffin. Mineola was the daughter of Frank and > Malissa Hoffpauir. She was acquainted with her grandfather. This is what she > says on the subject: "He spoke some broken German and French, but did not > know but a few phrases and introductory words - like "How are you?" Mother, > Aunt Ruth, Aunt Dolly and the others picked up on the "Cajun" dialect > some--but not in great detail. Grandpa seemed prouder of his German > connection - since his grandfather went from Germany to France, married > French girls and then to the US and South LA. " Later in her letter, she > tells me that her Aunt Ruth (whom she also calls 'mother' since Ruth raised > her after Mineola died) said the Hoffpauir name was spelled Hoffbauer in > Germany and the spelling was changed in France. She promises to send me > further information on the Hoffpauirs in Calcasieu Parish when her hand heals > and she can write easier. > > Best regards and Happy New Year to all, > Sharon Dulcich > > ==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > Please remove as much of the Original Message as possible when replying > to a List Posting. Include only that part of the original message > important to your reply. -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/

Hello list, I have recently had correspondence from my aunt Margie in Amite, LA regarding her grandfather, Frank Hoffpauir. I had enquired of her whether or not her grandfather's family did indeed speak French in the home as was reported to me. Marjorie Mae Griffin Young is the youngest daughter of Mineola Hoffpauir and Daniel Griffin. Mineola was the daughter of Frank and Malissa Hoffpauir. She was acquainted with her grandfather. This is what she says on the subject: "He spoke some broken German and French, but did not know but a few phrases and introductory words - like "How are you?" Mother, Aunt Ruth, Aunt Dolly and the others picked up on the "Cajun" dialect some--but not in great detail. Grandpa seemed prouder of his German connection - since his grandfather went from Germany to France, married French girls and then to the US and South LA. " Later in her letter, she tells me that her Aunt Ruth (whom she also calls 'mother' since Ruth raised her after Mineola died) said the Hoffpauir name was spelled Hoffbauer in Germany and the spelling was changed in France. She promises to send me further information on the Hoffpauirs in Calcasieu Parish when her hand heals and she can write easier. Best regards and Happy New Year to all, Sharon Dulcich

I need some help sorting out which Van Hoffpauir. I think I merged two different people some time ago, because now I believe that I have two different Van Hoffpauirs. Here is the data I have: Van Hoffpauir: buried Ebenezer,Sec A Row 19 No 2 b. 16 Jun 1906 d. 4 Oct 1970 (Tombstone & SSDI) Last known res Esterwood, LA Geneva Spell Hoffpauir: buried Ebenezer, Sec A Row 19 No 1 b. 24 Dec 1898 or 1899 d. 6 Dec 1993 (Tombstone & SSDI) Last known res Esterwood, LA I'm pretty sure that these two were husband & wife..... Now I have this couple: Van Crow Hoffpauir buried Ritchie Cem in Sulphur? b. 11 Dec 1895 d. Aug 1968 Last known res. Sulphur, LA Obit, LCAP 25 Aug 1968 Corrine Granger Hoffpauir (wife of Van Hoffpauir ?) d. 24 Dec 1965 Obit LCAP 23 Dec 1965 And had this Van married to both Geneva and Corrine, and now I'm pretty certain that was wrong. I think the parents of Van Crow Hoffpauir were Starkus Hoffpauir and Amilda Cordelia Hoffpauir. Does anyone know who the parents of my "first" Van Hoffpauir were? Or can anyone supply any information about the Van Hoffpauir from Esterwood, that can help us determine where he fits in the family? -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/

hey, i know this a message all the list will see, but are you Ken, my first cousin. Becky Hoffpauir Hanafin -----Original Message----- From: Hoffpaui,Ken <khoffpauir@deltech.net> To: HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com <HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, December 18, 1999 2:13 AM Subject: what's new >Charlie I have not noticed any new letters from all those who have been researching Thomas Hoffpauir. > I was following them closely to read the interesting family history. Has everyone taken Holiday leaves or was I accidentally removed from the mail list??? > K.Hoffpauir > Lake Charles > > >==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== >If you have a question about Hoffpauir genealogy, post it to the >Hoffpauir-L mail list. You'll have over 40 people trying to help >you find the answer. > >

since sonmeone asked.... Here's a family that I don't really have a lot of information on. I know the Hoffpauirs and the Istres have had earlier connections, and I'm wondering if the Istre line that ties into this family is also descended from an earlier Hoffpauir-Istre connection? Does anyone happen to know who the parents of the Harris J. Istre that married Ella Hoffpauir were? For that matter, does anyone have any more information about ANY members of this family? Descendants of Louis L. Hoffpauir 1 Louis L. Hoffpauir b: 2 Nov 1892 src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Tombstone Inscription d: 18 Jun 1978 src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Tombstone Inscription Obituary: 19 Jun 1978 Lake Charles American Press Burial: Hays, Calcasieu Parish, LA Source: Hayes Cemetery Listing SS No.: 439-09-7113 Source: SSDI Reference #: CRH4479 . +Mattie Gossett b: 1 Sep 1897 src: Tombstone Inscription m: 15 Jun 1916 in Lake Charles, Calcasieu Parish, LA src1: Amy Marie Spell, src2: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records d: 30 Jul 1977 src: Tombstone Inscription Burial: Hays, Calcasieu Parish, LA Source: Hayes Cemetery Listing Reference #: CRH108 2 Velma Hoffpauir b: Bet. 1910 - 1930 Reference #: CRH266 ... +Oran Dailey m: 1942 in Calcasieu Parish, LA src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records Reference #: CRH4330 2 Ella Mae Hoffpauir b: Bet. 1910 - 1930 Reference #: CRH5603 ... +Arthur Darnsteadt, Jr. b: Bet. 1910 - 1925 m: 1941 in Calcasieu Parish, LA src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records d: Bet. 1940 - 1950 Reference #: CRH98 .. 3 Kenneth Darnsteadt Reference #: CRH13541 .. 3 Gary Darnsteadt Reference #: CRH13542 *2nd Husband of Ella Mae Hoffpauir: ... +Harris J. Istre b: Abt. 1920 Mermentau, LA src: "Obituary" m: Aft. 1941 d: 28 Apr 1998 in Lake Charles, LA src: "Obituary" Reference #: CRH13536 .. 3 Danny Istre Reference #: CRH18470 .. 3 Larry Istre Reference #: CRH18471 .. 3 Ella Istre Reference #: CRH18472 ..... +Zigfried Conrad m: src: "Obituary" Reference #: CRH18473 2 Rose Nell Hoffpauir b: Bet. 1910 - 1930 Reference #: CRH6293 ... +[_____] Morgan aka: ? Mingus m: src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH6294 2 Asa Lee Hoffpauir b: Aft. 1916 Reference #: CRH61 ... +[_____] Elkins m: Bef. 1951 src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH17998 .. 3 Micky Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH477 ..... +Jeanne Landry m: src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH5218 .... 4 Quinton Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH406 .... 4 Nathan Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH7370 .... 4 Chase Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH7372 .. 3 Bonnie Ray Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH17999 .. 3 Vivian Lee Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH18000 .. 3 Barry Hoffpauir b: Abt. 1951 src: "Obituary" d: 30 Jun 1951 src: "Obituary" Obituary: 2 Jul 1951 Lake Charles American Press Reference #: CRH7079 2 Wilbert W. 'Bert' Hoffpauir b: 19 Mar 1917 src1: SSDI, src2: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records d: 7 Apr 1995 src: SSDI Obituary: 8 Apr 1995 Lake Charles American Press Burial: Consolata Cemetery Source: "Obituary" SS No.: 433-16-5692 Source: SSDI Reference #: CRH746 ... +Shirley Ruth Dailey m: src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH3813 .. 3 Bertha Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH120 ..... +Darrell Zumalt m: src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH118 .. 3 Betty Hoffpauir Reference #: CRH3187 ..... +? Reeves m: src: Clonia Ann Freeman Reference #: CRH6127 *2nd Wife of Wilbert W. 'Bert' Hoffpauir: ... +Versie Elaine Abshire b 1: 20 Oct 1915 src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Tombstone Inscription b 2: 23 Nov 1915 src: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records b 3: 20 Oct 1916 src: SSDI m: 15 May 1937 in Calcasieu Parish, LA src: Calcasieu Parish Marriage Records d: 28 May 1990 src1: Clonia Ann Freeman, src2: Tombstone Inscription Obituary: 30 May 1990 Lake Charles American Press Burial: Ebenezer Methodist Church Cemetery Source: "Ebenezer Cemetery Listing" SS No.: 433-38-6537 Source: SSDI Reference #: CRH3182 -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/

Ken, I have noticed the same thing. Have to admit I haven't made any postings lately, though. Reckon it's the season. List, I am still looking for a specimen of the signature of Francois Hoffpauer, son of the patriarch. His is the only one I lack in the 8 generations of my line (or my son's line...he's the 8th). Any clues you can give would be appreciated. Happy holidays. Archie Hoffpauir

Archie I'll look through my records & see if I have his signature. I do not recall ever seeing it because there is a contorversy as to whether he used Francis or Francois. Felton

Ken We are still looking. Felton

Charlie I have not noticed any new letters from all those who have been researching Thomas Hoffpauir. I was following them closely to read the interesting family history. Has everyone taken Holiday leaves or was I accidentally removed from the mail list??? K.Hoffpauir Lake Charles

Actually any of the 3 Clydes we have match the date frames Mike

Felton Thanks for the quick reply! We have no other information other than his name was Clyde Hoffpauir on the birth cert. Agnes would never speak to no one of him and no one seems to know anything about him. We knew of his father before Woodrow died but he knew nothing of him other than from around the Crowley area. So we are at present only guessing as to which one it would have been. Hoping one of the children of one of the clydes will remember their father talking of another child he had before he got married. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <FelMor@aol.com> To: <adamsrib@aisp.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 11:05 AM Subject: Clyde Hoffpauir > Mike > > Could you send me more info on Clyde & his family (children, aunts, uncles, > etc). > > A likely suspect for his parents are: > > Clyde Ernest Hoffpauir b 29 Nov 1902 LA d 22 Feb 1968 marr 1st Leander Lawson > McClelland in 1923 & 2nd Ethel Domingue in 1941. He could have had Woodrow > in 1918 very easily. I have no children for Clyde by either marriage. His > parents are Wiliam Hoffpauir & Malenion (Ruby) Faulk. > > Felton Morgan >

Mike, Have you tried following Woodrow's line (if there is a line) to some descendants who may be able to provide some family information? Also, there is a Clyde Hoffpauir in the Social Security Death Index: Social Security Death Index: U.S., 1937-1997 Hoffpauir, Clyde Birth date : 29 Nov 1903 Issued in : Louisiana Death date : Feb 1968 SS# : 434-09-4178 Residence code : Louisiana Zip code of last known residence : 70526 (Crowley, LA) Although the SSDI says dob is 1903, his tombstone says 1902. I don't show any children for him at all, so I guess he could be a possibility? Is there any indication of either parents age at the time of Woodrow's birth? I think this is sometimes included on the birth certificate. Mike Adams wrote: > > Charlie, Felmor, et al, > > Still looking for the father of Woodrow Hoffpauir s/o we know Agnes Quibodeaux and according to the baptism certificate Clyde Hoffpauir. I have come across 2 Clydes born in the approximate time frame. Clyde Hoffpauir s/o nathan Hoffpauir & Leah Wagnor m.Dora Sanders and the second is Clyde Hoffpauir s/o Rufus Hoffpauir and Laura Spell m Ella Navarre. > > Does anyone have a hint of either possibility. We know Agnes was not married at the time of Woodrows birth, and she later married James Stewart. > > Any help will be appreciated! > > Mike > > ==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the free books on Thomas Hoffpauir's family? They > are available for download at http://users.ev1.net/~charlieh/ -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/

Charlie, Felmor, et al, Still looking for the father of Woodrow Hoffpauir s/o we know Agnes Quibodeaux and according to the baptism certificate Clyde Hoffpauir. I have come across 2 Clydes born in the approximate time frame. Clyde Hoffpauir s/o nathan Hoffpauir & Leah Wagnor m.Dora Sanders and the second is Clyde Hoffpauir s/o Rufus Hoffpauir and Laura Spell m Ella Navarre. Does anyone have a hint of either possibility. We know Agnes was not married at the time of Woodrows birth, and she later married James Stewart. Any help will be appreciated! Mike

Bonnylass, I didn't receive any text with your e-mail. Bonnylass7@aol.com wrote: > > > ==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > If you know of relatives who are doing genealogy work, encourage > them to subscribe to the HOFFPAUIR-L mail list.

I was in Sulphur since Wednesday and saw that obit. While I was there I did manage to get a cousin's (a Hoffpauir) e-mail addy and as soon as I get resettled in here I'll write and ask her if she knows anything about him. Randy

Felton and others, The Richard I am seeing (in the obits) is still alive and practicing. The reason I happened to mention it today, is because he is mentioned in an obit in today's LCAP: SULPHUR -- Funeral services for Mrs. Kermit Manley Prejean, 81, will be at 10 a.m. Monday, Nov. 29, in Hixson Funeral Home. The Rev. Richard Hoffpauir will officiate. Burial will be in Mimosa Pines Cemetery. Visitation is 2-10 p.m. Sunday and from 8:30 a.m. Monday. Mrs. Prejean died Friday, Nov. 26, 1999, in Sulphur. A native of Morgan City, she had lived in Sulphur for the past 50 years. She was a librarian for 34 years, retiring in 1985. She was a member of the AARP Local Senior Citizens Group and the Elderberry's Senior Citizen's Group. She had been a member of Henning Memorial United Methodist Church for 50 years. Survivors include one daughter, Mrs. Paul (Gayle) LeBlanc of Splendora, Texas; one brother, B.A. Manley of Carrollton, Texas; two grandchildren; and one great-grandchild. FelMor@aol.com wrote: > > I have 13 Richard Hoffpauirs. I have a Richard James Hoffpauir who died in > Lake Charles on 10 Mar 1947 having been born 10 Jun 1904at Estherwood. Don't > know if he was a minister. > > Felton > > ==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the free books on Thomas Hoffpauir's family? They > are available for download at http://users.ev1.net/~charlieh/ -- Charlie Hoffpauir http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/