All I discovered that the Lawrence Hoffpauir in my previous query is Lawrence Hoffpauir baptized 1 May 1936 in Orange TX married 17 Jun 1956 Anahuac, Chambers County,TX to Felicia Marie Simon baptized 23 Jul 1939 in Evangeline, Acadia Parish. He is the son of Douglas Hoffpaiur & Zula Clement. Felton

Charlie et al, Lawrence Edward Hoffpauir b Jan 1888 Ward Five Vermilion Par marr 1st 23 Oct 1911 Acadia Par to Mary Quebodeaux children to wit; 1. Maxie Curtis Hoffpauir b 14 Apr 1915 LA 2. Jean Hoffpauir (girl) 3. Percy Lee Hoffpauir married 2nd Jul 1923 Acadia Par to Estena Marie Bourque children to wit; 1. Ruth E Hoffpauir b 10 May 1924 2. Lawrence Edward Hoffpauir b 30 Jun 1927 3. Deanna Dean Hoffpauir b 14 Oct 1938 James Allen Hoffpauir b 26 Feb 1888 Ward Five Vermilion Par d 24 Dec 1960 bur Abshire Cemetary, Abshire Cove, Vermilion Par marr 22 Oct 1919 Vermilion Par to Marilia (Amalia ) Weekly children to wit; 1. Bertha Lula Hoffpauir b 1 Jul 1920 d 25 Mar 1988 Abbeville bur Abshire Cemetary 2. Nelson Adam Hoffpauir b 5 Jan 1924 Kaplan d 8 Dec 1995 3. Albert Hoffpauir b 7 Jan 1926 Kaplan 4. Reley Hoffpauir (girl) b 26 Aug 1927 marr to Kilbert Joseph Trahan 5. Willie Ray Hoffpauir b 26 Nov 1929 Abbeville 6. Gursey Hoffpauir b 26 Jun 1932 Kaplan marr to Elmo Anthony Romero 7. Huey P Hoffpauir b 12 Nov 1934 Kaplan 8. Alice Hoffpauir b 16 Jun 1939 marr to George Joyce Guidry (Who are Levan & Lawrence? anyone) I have a Larwrence Hoffpauir married to Felicie Melancon with the following children 1. Joseph Floyd Hoffpauir b 4 Aug 1946 marr 28 Feb 1970 Lafayette to Judith Ann Hebert 2. Paul Calvin Hoffpauir b 3 Aug 1948 Scott marr 14 Nov 1970 Lafayette to Judy Ann Forrestier 3. Barbara Nell Hoffpauir b 14 Jul 1950 Lafayette marr 12 Aug 1967 Scott to Jimmy Pellerin 4. Melvin Joseph Hoffpauir b 14 Jul 1950 Lafayette marr 1st 7 Sep 1968 Scott to Joyce Lane Jagneaux marr 2nd 26 Feb 1981 Lafayette Par to Sherry Lynn Smith Who is this mystery man? Felton

Yesterday I received a message from a new list member, asking if any of the old messages were saved somewhere. I had set the list up originally so that the old messages would be automatically archived by Rootsweb, the organization that provides the mail list services for us. I knew they were having problems originally with many of the new services, so I never went back to check on the archiving. So after getting this question, I decided to check and see if I could retrieve any old messages. Well, it works, but it seems to only include messages sent for the past few months. The URL's for getting directly to the mail list archives are: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ and http://archiver.rootsweb.com/HOFFPAUIR-L/ The first address gets you to the general archive area, and the second one to the archive specifically for Hoffpauir-L. If you click on one or both of these addresses, you will probably meet up with a screen asking you to log in. If you've already set yourself up with a Rootsweb user name and password, just use that to log in. If you haven't done that yet, they will allow you to register, and then log in. You may have to repeat the clicking on the address to get back to the right screen. The archives are more than just a collection of old messages. It seems that you can search on any subject, and retrieve a list of the comments made on those subjects. I tried searching on "Felton" and came up with a long list.... the messages he posted recently on the "unconnected" list. I think that if you are interested in one particular person, you could do a search for that person's name, and retrieve any messages that mentioned that name. An additional thing I discovered.... it is possible to expand your search to cover not only the Hoffpauir mail list archive, but ALL Rootsweb mail list archives. So if you are interested in Alvin Morgan (for example), you could do a search and retrieve every message that mentioned his name. I hope this information is useful..... -- Charlie Hoffpauir Yes, there is a HOFFPAUIR mail list, hosted by ROOTSWEB http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/f/Charles-R-Hoffpauir/ http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/choffpauo/thomas.htm

Felton, or anyone who may have more information: I have a Lawrence Hoffpauir who married Estina Bourque, Acadia Parish license issued 14 July 1923. He's about the right age to be the son of James Allen Hoffpauir and Marilia Weekly, but I don't have any information that confirms they are really the same person. Does anyone know for sure if they ARE the same person, or for sure that they are NOT? The Name Lawrence is mentioned in the obituary of Marilia Weekly, as the name of one of her children, who was living in Bell City in 1960. Other children named that I haven't positively identified are: Levan living in Lake Charles Willie living in Thornwell Huey living in Port Arthur and sisters, whose married names are the only names given: Mrs Kilbert Trahan LaBell, TX Mrs Elmo Romero Bell City Mrs George Guidry Bell City -- Charlie Hoffpauir Yes, there is a HOFFPAUIR mail list, hosted by ROOTSWEB http://web.wt.net/~charlieh/ http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/h/o/f/Charles-R-Hoffpauir/ http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/choffpauo/thomas.htm

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The following was on the Indian Bayou school page. Thought you might like to read it. Contains some Hoffpauirs. Bonnie ---------- On March 17, 1966, the following document was read on KROF radio channel for a "Know Your Schools" radio program. "In 1933, Kathleen Talley, a senior, interviewed an 83-year old citizen, Mr. Thomas Hoffpauir, better remembered as "Uncle Tommy", and from the written record of this interview we learned that the first school originated in the United Bayou Methodist Church. The only book used was the Blue back Speller and the only thing to write on was slates. Mrs. Dallas Hayes, formerly Dora Hoffpauir, a native of Indian Bayou, now residing in Lafayette, was recently interviewed. She remembers beginning school in 1886, at the age of 7, in a one room building on the present site of the school. However, she had a brother Otis, ten years her senior, who attended school much earlier, thus the possibility of the school dating back to 1876. A Mr. Thomas was her first principal. Later, Mr. Ellis became principal with Mr. Butler as assistant. The land on which the school is located was donated on April 16, 1886, by Mr. George Hayes, great-grandfather of several of our present students. Then, in 1901, Dora Hoffpauir married Dallas Hayes. He became principal and she assisted him teaching, he in one end of the one room school and she in the other. Mr. F. G. Cole followed Mr. Hayes, but Mrs. Hayes could not recall any definite dates. From a personal interview with Mr. A. L. Jones, twice principal of the school, the following information was obtained: Mr. Jones came from Tennessee with his wife and first daughter, Maxine, to become principal of the Indian Bayou consolidated School in April 1908. He served 7 sessions, during which time there were many different teachers. Some of them he remembers are: Mrs. Ida Ashurst, Mrs. Ione Perry, Raymond Morgan, Yvonne Tilly, Christine Humphrey, Josephine Burt, and Annie Mae Burt. When Mr. Jones came to Indian Bayou, a two story wooden building had been built in front of the one room school and to the side a stage was added. It was in this building that four of the present Indian Bayou Faculty began their education. They are Mr. Jasper Spell, Principal, Mrs. Jewell Carver, Mrs. Dollie Perry, and Mrs. Iva Meaux. Following Mr. Jones W. Jones in 1914 was Mr. B. E. Jones. In 1916, Mr. John W. Faulk, a native son, became principal and remained until 1922,at which time he became Superintendent of Schools in Lafayette Parish. In 1922, a new three story brick building was complete and the Indian Bayou School became an accredited high school with its first class of three graduating in 1923. Mr. Spell our present principal was a member of this class. Mr. C. C. Lewis became the principal of this new high school. Following Mr. Lewis were Mr. Dibble, D. D. Pierce, C. W. Edwards, W. W. Shields, and R. A. Daly respectively. Mr. A. L. Jones returned as principal in 1948. The brick building was condemned, demolished and replaced with the present wooden building. Mr. Jones retired in 1951 and Mr. Noah Langlinais became principal until 1956 when he left and Mr. Spell became principal. There are a number of native sons and daughters who have taught her, retired, and are still living in or near Indian Bayou. They are Mrs. Mabel Broussard, Mrs. Ida Ashurst, Mrs. Ione Perry, Mrs. Florrye LeDoux, Mr. R. P. LeDoux, Mr. C. L. Boulet, Mr. R. A. Daly, Mr. Honore Comeaux, and Mrs. Dora Hayes. Of course, there are many other than natives of the community who have taught hear and served well, but time will not permit naming them. However, we are justly proud of them. An interesting sidelight is that part of the first one room school is still in the community. This is the story: In 1921 or 22 when the wooden building was replaced by the brick building, Mr. Adolph Morgan bought the one room school building, moved it across the road and made it into a home. Some years later, he sold his place to Mr. & Mrs. Cole Morgan, who tore the building down and built a new home. In it is included some of the little one room school building. Much more of interest could be added to this brief history of the Indian Bayou School, but time is running out. May we add that history is still in the making, we are adding to the annals, and we hope our additions will be as noteworthy and memorable as the past history." It has been over 30 years, since that radio program aired. The last wooden building referred to in the above information was built in 1949 and is still in use today. It houses the fifth through eighth grades. Gordon LeDoux, a former Vermilion Parish School Board member has said that the wooden structure used today to house the kindergarten to the fourth grade classes was moved from a neighboring community named Leleux. There are also two small one- room buildings on the school grounds. It has been told that the building that houses the special education class also was a school from Leleux. And the one building that is now a storage building was once a school from the Ridge area that black children attended. Also, since the article, we have added four additional former principals to our list. They include Mr. Adam Sonnier, Mr. Luther Suire, Mr. Randy Schexnayder; Mr. Jimmy Vice, Mrs. Charlotte Waguespak, our current principal. Her appointment began in the 1997 – 1998 school year. The most dramatic change happened in 1991 when the school was transformed from a high school to an elementary school.

Hi everyone I am thrilled to join and enjoy your messages. My grandfather, Aristide told me that Thomas Hoffpauir and two of his brothers, Abraham and Ephram came to Louisiana on the ship either from France or Netherlands but Abraham and Ephram returned back home. Aristide's father Ambrose was given to the family (the Richards) to raise him because his mother died when he was a little boy. Aristide said he was surprised to see his birth certificate spelling his last name Hoffpower. I hope this info will be helpful to you. I will try to remember some important facts and let you know. Catherine "Kitty" Hoffpauir Fischer _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Hi, It's cousin Linda in TX. Watching this Thomas discussion is wonderful. I too am ardently trying to the "rock" where Thomas is hiding. The item on Hoffelbauer. I have been working on that one. The spellings vary. What else! This Palantine ships seem like good sources. They also have names similar to Stutes on many on them. And the ages well within line. The info on the ship for names like Hoffelbauer is: The Patience 1748 http://www.execpc.com/~trarbach/Patience/1748Patience.html [List 122 A] List of Mens Names & Ages imported in the Ship Patience, Capt. John Brown. [Qualified Sept. 16, 1748] Philip Hefelbower 30 Heifelbower 24 Also at this site Hoffelbauer is found: Cumberalnd HIstorical Society Famiy files. http://www.historicalsociety.com/ HOEFELBAUER I also have found some interesting spellings for the name on ships with various spellings for Stutes. Would be great if we can zero in on these PA names, but most seem to deadend. Maybe someone out there can get further than I have. We will find this man........ Anyone on the same research line please contact me. Good luck to us all. Linda > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie <CharlieH@wt.net> > To: HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com <HOFFPAUIR-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 11:19 PM > Subject: Re: Aufpan > > > >Anna Marie, > > > >sjhayes wrote: > >> > >> Charlie: Could you understand the spelling of Aufpan if you > said it out > >> loud? "Auf..." says "off" and "...pan" might really have > been "...par". > >> Therefore you would have "Offpar". I don't think it is too far fetched > to > >> think the recorder of the Churchhill data could have miss understood a > >> handwriting and read "pan" in stead of "par", do you? > >> > > > >This sounds very reasonable, and is basically what another list > >member said in a direct e-mail from California. > > > >> And along these lines what is your thinking about the spelling > in Natchez > >> for HOFFPAUIR as HOFFPAVER and HASPOWER? It seems in land records of > 1806 > >> Thomas signed his name HOFFPAUIR and it appears in several places. He > was > >> very inventive to come up with a name like this out of the blue. Looks > like > >> he could have chosen a name that other could spell correctly > and the same > >> with out fail, don't you think? Why wouldn't he just start calling > himself > >> Thomas Huff? Would that have been easier. Hey, Thomas; why > didn't you > do > >> that? > >> > >I'm not really surprised by any spelling I find, since I find so > >may different spellings even in "modern" times. The SSDI has our > >name spelled (or mis-spelled) as > >Hoffower > >Hoffpantr > >Hoffpanir > >Hoffpavir > >Hoffpouir > >Hoffpowier > >Hoffrauir > >Huffpower > > > > > >> Or, do you think it could be HOFFELBAUER? There were two HOFFELBAUERs > who > >> came to PA in 1748 from Rotterdam. There might be a possibility that > >> Thomas was a descendant of one of these two. It might explain the > >> connection to Marie Charlotte PERRILLARD too, since PA is a lot closer > in > >> proximity to Quebec. Any thought? > >> > > > >Now this is a story that I had not heard before. I find this very > >interesting, and certainly worth spending some time looking into. > >The timing is about right... do you have a ship or any other data > >on these two Hoffelbauers? > > > >And thanks for the comments.... I really think you're right.... > >if he would have made the name up, why didn't he choose something > >much more easily written, the equivalent of Smith or Jones? > > > >> Just thought I would put me two cents in and stop lurking :o) > Sure wish > we > >> could solve this "mystery of the man from under a rock". > >> > > > >I think that Felton's phrase will find itself into the family > >history now. I intend to insert it in my description of Thomas > >when I update his web page. <vbg> > > > > > >> Sincerely, > >> Anna Marie Hayes > >> > > > >-- > >Charlie > > > > > >==== HOFFPAUIR Mailing List ==== > >If you're into genealogy, consider joining RootsWeb...... > >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > >

Hmmmm, This may be the Christian Hoffbauer who arrived from Rotterdam on the "Barclay" which docked in Philadelphia in September, 1754. On a different list he is referred to as Christian Hoffberger.... At one time I was following him thinking there might be a link to our family, but I never found one. I have his signature from the ship's list, and it's not similar to Hoffpauer's. I did not have his wife's name, he probably married after he arrived, if it's the same Christian. Archie R Hoffpauir wrote: > > While rummaging for copies of DeVille and Peterson material, came across excerpt from "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record" (Vol. XCVII, No. 3, July 1966). Found abstracts of notices from "The New-York Mercury" ( presume a newspaper)...interesting note for 11-24-1760: "Huffpouer, Catherine, wife of Christean Hoffpouer of Elizabeth Town, N.J.--husband will not pay debts contracted by her in the future." Tantalizing reference, but I did not find further references in the materials available to me here in Waco. > > Then again, maybe a connection: In "American Loyalist Claims," a compilation by Peter Wilson Coldham, there is a reference to an Ebenezer Foster who claimed property in Woodbridge, N.J. in 1784 by inheritance from his grandfather. Quoting Coldham's abstract exactly, including the brackets: "At decease of grandfather, it descended to grandfather's two daughters; claimant's aunt Catherine Lustbarrow [?] acted solely in conveying the property (since her husband was a lunatic) to claimant's mother, Margaret Hadden." > > Farther along in Coldham's list there is a history of land claimed by John Heard: "10 Mar. 1753 Thomas Hadden to John Heard, 10 1/2 acres; 28 Apr. 1767 Nathaniel Loofbourrow to John Heard, 10 acres." > > How's that for confusing the issue that much more? The rock theory is sounding better all the time. > > Archie > unding better all the time. > > Archie > > -- Charlie Hoffpauir

I've been told that Castang Bayou is between Mandeville and Lacombe La and is now called Cane Bayou. My GGGGrandfather John Perry had settled there also. Randy

Charlie et al. Chrcked out Crowley on Archibald Hoffpauir's wife Laura's succession. Seems she died bef 18 Dec 1885 & they didn't close the succession until Leslie Hoffpauir came of age. This is what I think the families should look like. Archibald Hoffpauir married 1st Laura Hoffpauir (d/o Isaac Hoffpauir & Elizabeth Perry) with children to wit: 1. Leslie Hoffpauir b Sep 1879 St Landry Parish 2. James Arthur Hoffpauir b Feb 1882 St Landry Parish 3. Isaac Lawrence Hoffpauir b 2 May 1885 St Landry Parish married 2nd Lucinda Perry with children to wit: 1. Bennett Semmie Hoffpauir b 20 Jul 1887 Acadia Parish d Sep 1968 LA 2. Lucian Emmett Hoffpauir b Jun 1892 Acadia Parish 3. Eva Hoffpauir b after the 1900 census In Laura Hoffpauir's succession are mentioned as family members persons I believe to be as listed. (no relationships were given in the documents only as relatives of the minor children. under tuter Howard Hoffpauir (the children maternal uncle) relatives Manassah Hoffpauir (the childrens paternal uncle) Isaac Hoffpauir (the childrens maternal grandfather) James I Hoffpauir (the childrens maternal uncle) Lee Smith (the childrens paternal uncle in law) friend of the family was mentioned as Manoah Hoffpauir This looks like how it is. I did not know who Laura was. Now I think I know. Any other ideas. Felton

While rummaging for copies of DeVille and Peterson material, came across excerpt from "The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record" (Vol. XCVII, No. 3, July 1966). Found abstracts of notices from "The New-York Mercury" ( presume a newspaper)...interesting note for 11-24-1760: "Huffpouer, Catherine, wife of Christean Hoffpouer of Elizabeth Town, N.J.--husband will not pay debts contracted by her in the future." Tantalizing reference, but I did not find further references in the materials available to me here in Waco. Then again, maybe a connection: In "American Loyalist Claims," a compilation by Peter Wilson Coldham, there is a reference to an Ebenezer Foster who claimed property in Woodbridge, N.J. in 1784 by inheritance from his grandfather. Quoting Coldham's abstract exactly, including the brackets: "At decease of grandfather, it descended to grandfather's two daughters; claimant's aunt Catherine Lustbarrow [?] acted solely in conveying the property (since her husband was a lunatic) to claimant's mother, Margaret Hadden." Farther along in Coldham's list there is a history of land claimed by John Heard: "10 Mar. 1753 Thomas Hadden to John Heard, 10 1/2 acres; 28 Apr. 1767 Nathaniel Loofbourrow to John Heard, 10 acres." How's that for confusing the issue that much more? The rock theory is sounding better all the time. Archie unding better all the time. Archie

Mary A Peterson submitted an article, "British West Florida: Abstracts of Land Petitions," in several numbers of the Louisiana Genealogical Register (Vols. IVIII and XIX). In the section in Vol. XIX, No. 2, June 1972, she lists the following: "LOOFBARROW, John 23 March 1776 100 a. fam. ri. [family right] 100 a. bounty on Castang Bayou. Wife, 5 children. Was an artificer from New York." "LOOFBARROW, Thomas 23 March 1776 100 a. fam. ri. 100 a. purchase on Castang Bayou. Artificer from New York. Declared loyalty to Britain." I don't have the full text of the article, but somewhere I got the idea that Castang Bayou was just north of Lake Ponchartrain. Doesn't appear to be our Thomas, but it was fun speculating for a while. Archie Hoffpauir hie Hoffpauir

Charlie et al...I was one who got excited when I first came across DeVille's booklet on "English Land Grants in West Florida" and his notation "suggests Hoffpauir." He confirmed that to me as his opinion when he conducted a genealogy workshop here in Waco several years ago, but I have come to believe he is wrong. Barbara has pointed out that Loofborrow is a known English name (and Bonnie has noted that previously). The English land grants were, according to DeVille and his source materials, distributed to ENGLISH artisans and workers who helped establish English settlements, forts, etc. in West Florida (which includes eastern Louisiana). DeVille's rendering lists "Thomas Loofborrow" first, with the date, apparently, of the grant: "27 January 1777." Nine names down, "John Loofborrow" is listed: "I February 1777." Will follow with cross-reference from LA Genealogical Register. Archie gical Register. = Archie

The name "Loofborrow" in records may well refer to a real surname, LOUGHBOROUGH (and variant spellings). It's an English surname and place name. I think it would most likely be pronounced "Loff-burrow." There must have been a family by that name which settled in the vicinity of Vicksburg, Miss. before the Civil War. I make this suggestion because a woman named Mary Ann (Webster) Loughborough published a book in 1864 about the Siege of Vicksburg, entitled "My Cave Life in Vicksburg." No, I haven't seen a copy of it. It's possible that the John Loofborrow was an ancestor of that family. If Thomas Loofborrow turns out to be Thomas Hoffpauer, perhaps his surname was misunderstood by a clerk and confused with John's name. It might be useful to know which name was written first in the records, John's or Thomas's. Barbara Hill

Anna Marie, Yes, I've heard some other researchers mention the Loofborrows. I don't remember all of the details that I heard, but the bottom line was that they had concluded that it was another family, not Hoffpauirs. However, I'm not sure that they had this reference, where the suggestion was that it was Hoffpauir. Does the reference give the location of the grant? It really sounds like it might be our Thomas, if the location fits in Louisiana. I can't imagine who the John Loofborrow at that time frame could be, though. sjhayes wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: sjhayes <sjhayes@bellsouth.net> > To: HOFFPAUIR-L@rootswev.com <HOFFPAUIR-L@rootswev.com> > Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:51 PM > Subject: Me again! > > >Charlie: > > > >Here's another one for you: > > > >ENGLISH LAND GRANTS IN WEST FLORIDA; A REGISTER FOR THE STATES OF ALABAMA, > >MISSISSIPPI, AND PARTS OF FLORIDA AND LOUISIANA, 1766-1776; by Winston > >DeVille, page 3. > > > >"Thomas LOOFBORROW [sic, but suggests HOFFPAUIR]; 27 JANUARY 1777. 200. > >1787." > > > >"John LOOFBORROW: 1 FEBRUARY 1777. 200. 1787." > > > >The date is the date of the grant; the 200 is acres and the last date was > in > >a column titled "Quit rents commence Michaelnass {of the year:}" for which > >DeVille puts only the year. > > > >That's a new spelling on me; how about you? > >Anna Marie Hayes > > > > Charlie

Anna Marie, sjhayes wrote: > > Charlie: Could you understand the spelling of Aufpan if you said it out > loud? "Auf..." says "off" and "...pan" might really have been "...par". > Therefore you would have "Offpar". I don't think it is too far fetched to > think the recorder of the Churchhill data could have miss understood a > handwriting and read "pan" in stead of "par", do you? > This sounds very reasonable, and is basically what another list member said in a direct e-mail from California. > And along these lines what is your thinking about the spelling in Natchez > for HOFFPAUIR as HOFFPAVER and HASPOWER? It seems in land records of 1806 > Thomas signed his name HOFFPAUIR and it appears in several places. He was > very inventive to come up with a name like this out of the blue. Looks like > he could have chosen a name that other could spell correctly and the same > with out fail, don't you think? Why wouldn't he just start calling himself > Thomas Huff? Would that have been easier. Hey, Thomas; why didn't you do > that? > I'm not really surprised by any spelling I find, since I find so may different spellings even in "modern" times. The SSDI has our name spelled (or mis-spelled) as Hoffower Hoffpantr Hoffpanir Hoffpavir Hoffpouir Hoffpowier Hoffrauir Huffpower > Or, do you think it could be HOFFELBAUER? There were two HOFFELBAUERs who > came to PA in 1748 from Rotterdam. There might be a possibility that > Thomas was a descendant of one of these two. It might explain the > connection to Marie Charlotte PERRILLARD too, since PA is a lot closer in > proximity to Quebec. Any thought? > Now this is a story that I had not heard before. I find this very interesting, and certainly worth spending some time looking into. The timing is about right... do you have a ship or any other data on these two Hoffelbauers? And thanks for the comments.... I really think you're right.... if he would have made the name up, why didn't he choose something much more easily written, the equivalent of Smith or Jones? > Just thought I would put me two cents in and stop lurking :o) Sure wish we > could solve this "mystery of the man from under a rock". > I think that Felton's phrase will find itself into the family history now. I intend to insert it in my description of Thomas when I update his web page. <vbg> > Sincerely, > Anna Marie Hayes > -- Charlie

-----Original Message----- From: sjhayes <sjhayes@bellsouth.net> To: HOFFPAUIR-L@rootswev.com <HOFFPAUIR-L@rootswev.com> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 10:51 PM Subject: Me again! >Charlie: > >Here's another one for you: > >ENGLISH LAND GRANTS IN WEST FLORIDA; A REGISTER FOR THE STATES OF ALABAMA, >MISSISSIPPI, AND PARTS OF FLORIDA AND LOUISIANA, 1766-1776; by Winston >DeVille, page 3. > >"Thomas LOOFBORROW [sic, but suggests HOFFPAUIR]; 27 JANUARY 1777. 200. >1787." > >"John LOOFBORROW: 1 FEBRUARY 1777. 200. 1787." > >The date is the date of the grant; the 200 is acres and the last date was in >a column titled "Quit rents commence Michaelnass {of the year:}" for which >DeVille puts only the year. > >That's a new spelling on me; how about you? >Anna Marie Hayes >