Bob, For days I have been reading with much interest your "Theory" regarding the Hodges family. I descend from the Marlboro County SC branch. Isham b. about 1750 in VA.(I don't know where) and who died in Marlboro Co. in 1798. I'm still confused as to just who you happen to think his father might be. I lean toward it being the older John Hodges who was in Marlbora Co. at the same time. Give me a little feedback on your theory relating to Isham. I am descended from both of his sons, Edmund and John and of course, they BOTH named sons William!!!!!!! All of these names tie in so closely with the Pittsylvania Co., VA. bunch. You have done an outstanding job with this! Any help in this will be much appreciated. Pat ---------- >From: Bob Hodges <vhodges131@comcast.net> >To: HODGES-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [HODGES-L] Unified Family Theory 2003: The William Problem >Date: Sat, Dec 28, 2002, 2:42 PM > > The William Problem > > One last post on my new Unified Family Theory, as last branch to try to > attach to the family tree. > > In the 1767 Pittsylvania County, Virginia, tithe listing there are three > William Hodges: > > Jefferson's list: > > Isham Hodges 150 acres > John Hodges > Robert Hodges > > Donelson's list > > Edmond Hodges > > Wilson's list > > Wm. W. Hodges 240 acres > > Dilliard's list > > Edmond Hodges 100 acres > > Innes' list > > Wm. Hodges & Thomas Neville > > William Hodges > > I doubt if any was William Hodges, son of Isham Hodges, because none is > listed with Isham and Isham's William would probably not be old enough. > William W. with 240 acres is probably Welcome William who moved to Surry > County. Another is probably the William who later appears as William > Hodges, Sr. Who is the third? It could be William Hodges of Cumberland > County. Let's look at a few more: > > 1774 Pittsylvania Tithables, Innes' List > > Isam Hodges > John Hodges > Robt. Hodges Jr. > Wm. Hodges > Wm Hodges Jr. > > 1775 Pitsylvania Tithables, Witcher's List > > Edmond Hodges > David Hodges > Jesse Hodges > Thomas Hodges > Isam Hodges > Wm. Hodges > > Donelson's List > > Wm. Hodges > > 1776 Pittsylvania Tithables, Innes' List > > Isam Hodges > Robert Hodges, Jr. > Wm. Hodges > Wm. Hodges, Jr. > > August 1, 1778 Henry County tax list > ...Haskins, William > Hodges, Isham > Hodges William > Hill, Isham > Huckaby, John > Hodges, William > > September 21, 1778 deed of Josiah Hodges to Ambrose Hall for 200 acres on > Pigg River. Witnesses: Tully Choice, Jr.; William Jamison; William (X) > Hodges. 1 Henry County Deeds 245. > > An alphabetical List of the taxes or pound rate imposed on the different > persons property in the County of Henry and delivered to John Salmon, Sherif > of the said County to Collect for the year 1779. > ...Hodges, William, Senr. > Hall, Lamford > Hodges, Josiah > Hooker, Mary > Hodges, William, Jr. > Hodges, Isham > > June 17, 1779 deed of Ambros Hall and Elisha Eastes, Sr., of Henry County to > Josiah Hodges of Henry County for "a negro wench named Polly". Witnesses: > William (X) Hodge, James (X) Hodge, John (X) Milan. 1 Henry County Deeds > 243. > > 1780: An alphabetical List of Tax in the County of Henry for raising a > supply of money for the Service of the United States. Delivered to > Archeleus Hughes, Esq. Sherif of the said County to collect, due the 20th > day of February 1780. > ...Isham Hodges > William Hodges... > > Thus, there are consistently two Williams up until 1780. I think the > younger, William Hodges, Jr., is Isham's son. Who is the other and where > does he disappear to after 1780? I suppose it is possible that it is > William Hodges of Alabama, but it just seems odd to me that he would be > called William "Senior" and the other one William "junior" when they were so > close in age. > > Paul Hodges relates that Luther N. Byrd of Westfield, N.C., prepared in 1947 > an abstract of the 1784 tax list of Surry County, North Carolina. In > Captain Martin Armstrong's District (which Byrd stated was probably in what > is now Yadkin County) are listed: "Wm. Hodges, Amasa Hodges & Abner Hodges - > 3 polls" > > This may relate to the occurrence of a similar group of names in Lincoln > County, Kentucky, between 1796 and 1811. William and Amos Hodges first > appear in land records in 1796, and Amasa in 1803. Sutherland, Early > Kentucky Landholders, 1787-1811, 156-157. In personal property tax lists, > William and Amos first appear in 1797, Amasa in 1803, and Abner Hodges in > 1796. A James Hodges also appears in 1797. Early Kentucky Householders > 1787-1811, 87. These Hodges individuals appear to have been living along > the Green River in Lincoln and Casey Counties. Sutherland, Some Original > Land Grant Land Surveys Along Green River in Lincoln and Casey Counties, > Kentucky 1781-1836, 29, 197, 199, 493, 494. Among the individuals taxed in > Lincoln County from 1807 to 1811 was a Moses Hodges. Sutherland, Early > Kentucky Householders 1787-1811, 87. > > Here is a post from the archives on this family: > > Is anyone researching the HODGES family of Casey CO. Kentucky? On the 1815 > Tax List are the following names; Moses HODGES, William HODGES 100 Acres, > Amos HODGES 50 Acres, Amasa HODGES, Welcum HODGES 400 Acres, Abner HODGES. > On the 1840 Casey CO. KY. Census, page 173, is listed Judith HODGE, > age,70-80. Could this be Judith GENTRY, daughter of Joseph GENTRY, of Surry > County, N.C. married to Amos HODGES? The reason that I started researching > the HODGES of Casey CO. KY. is that they might be connected with the > Ambrose, Joshua and William HODGES,of the Walnut Creek area of Warren and > Barren County, KY. I am trying to connect this family with William HODGES, > who was sent by Samuel GENTRY, in 1813, to claim his part of his father, > Joseph GENTRY's estate. This William HODGES, was married to Joseph GENTRY'S > daughter, Agnes. I have checked the HODGES Family Archives, and have found > no one researching the HODGES of Casey CO. KY. There is also an Ambrose > HODGES, on the Boyle CO.KY. census of 1850 I have HODGES info. I will > share. Rich Johnson.. > > Does anyone know how (or if) this family ties into the Hodges family of > Surry County, North Carolina? Could the William be William, Senior from > Franklin County, Virginia. > > Bob Hodges > > > > ==== HODGES Mailing List ==== > Faye Dyess fdy@comcast.net Listmanager > Thou shalt edit any quoted text down to the minimum thou needest. > DO YOU OWN A COPY OF A CENSUS?? THEN VOLUNTEER TO DO LOOKUPS!!! > http://www.rootsweb.com/~uslookup >

The short answer is, I don't know. I think it makes some sense that Isham would be a brother to Edmund and John, but they were each born in North Carolina, and he was born in between them in Virginia. Of course, my theory is that Thomas, William and John moved back and forth between North Carolina and Virginia, but I think it is peculiar that Philemon Hodges mentioned John and Edmund, but not Isham. I think the most interesting fact on Isham is the record I found from Chatham County, North Carolina. I have never seen this before. I think there is more to be discovered in the Orange/Chatham records. If I had to guess today, I would say that Isham was a younger son of Thomas Hodges. We know that Thomas had a daughter born about 1734. His sons William and Thomas were adults by about 1762 (i.e., born not later than about 1741). The basis for my guess is that Isham sold land in Chatham County, and Thomas owned land that my be in Chatham County. That should be any easy thing to run down in the records. We have these two: Aug. 13, 1765: Bartholomew Tucker to Thomas Hodges sale of 100 acres wit: John Brantley Oct. 1, 1789 Isom Hodge of Marlborough Co., S.C. to Richason Swaner of Chatham Co. for L200 a tract lying on the west side of Rocky River formerly granted to Moses Gin and David Pone 100 acres. Wit. James Lawrence, John Hurly. Chatham Co. (N.C.) Deed Book D, page 616. I will try to see if I can find the Gin and Pone grant in the Hoffman books, or one or more conveyances to Tucker. I have only looked in the published deed abstracts for Cumberland County, North Carolina, and Hoffman's abstracts of the patent and land entry books. One thing I hope these ideas will stimulate people to do is to do more research and post what they find. There is more information out there. Now there is another Hodge family that comes into Orange County about the time of the Revolution, so it may be hard to keep them straight. But we need to get out there and find all the records. Bob Hodges ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Adams" <nanapat@cfl.rr.com> To: <HODGES-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [HODGES-L] Unified Family Theory 2003: The William Problem > Bob, > For days I have been reading with much interest your "Theory" regarding the > Hodges family. I descend from the Marlboro County SC branch. Isham b. about > 1750 in VA.(I don't know where) and who died in Marlboro Co. in 1798. I'm > still confused as to just who you happen to think his father might be. I > lean toward it being the older John Hodges who was in Marlbora Co. at the > same time. Give me a little feedback on your theory relating to Isham. I am > descended from both of his sons, Edmund and John and of course, they BOTH > named sons William!!!!!!! All of these names tie in so closely with the > Pittsylvania Co., VA. bunch. You have done an outstanding job with this! Any > help in this will be much appreciated. > > Pat

Another William to add to the mix: My ancestor is William ELIAS Hodges m. Elizabeth Dubose; called Elias and so reflected in records. We obtain his full name from his con's gravestone in TX. At least two of his sons were born in SC and he was resident for some time in Jefferson County, GA before removing to Conecuh County, AL where he, his son Elias, Jr. (who returned to Jefferson Co, GA) AND Philemon Hodges are found in the tax rolls in 1819 and the 1820 Conecuh County, AL Census. ============================== 1820 Cumberland County, NC Census Records Pg. 148: James Hodges Pg. 149: Col. John Hodges Pg. 156: Philemon Hodges: This is Philemon b. 7-9-1795, son of Joseph Hodges & Sarah who appear to be living with him. This Philemon was Veteran of War of 1812. New Hanover Co., NC Muster Roll 1812-1814; Third Regiment, Moore's NC Militia. Rank Induction: Corporal and Rank Discharge: Ensign. He was Philemon H. (or S.) Hodges. In 1820 he had young wife and a daughter under 10 years of age. Pg. 158: Joel Hodge Pg. 162: William Hodges; Overseer for B. W. Williams Pg 170: Jesse Hodge ============================ I've traced Rev. War Sol. Philemon Hodges as follows: Possibly the Philemon Hodges of 1910 Cumberland Co., NC Census 1820 Conecuh County, AL: Philemon Hodges b. 1760-1770 (same age range as our ELIAS Hodges) 1830 Green County, AL; Pg 410: Philemon Hodges age 60/70 born 1760-1770, a Widower. Also resident in the household is one Philemon Hodges, age 30-40 (b. 3-7-1797) and his wife Eliza Ann Caroline Brewer who he married 15 Feb. 1828 in Marengo County, LA [we're all aware that, RWS Philemon Hodges had son Samuel Kitrell Hodges who lived in Muscogee Co., GA. He also had son, Philemon b. 3-7-1797 and son named John b.1787 - d. 1832. This John Hodges married 4/18/1819 Winifred Turner b. ~1783, who married (2) James Campbell). 1832 GEORGIA Land Lottery: Muscogee Co., GA: Resident in Few's (Ignatiaus Few) District; Drew as RWS; drew Lot 173, 25th Dist., 2nd Section, Cherokee Co., GA. 1840 Muscogee Co., GA: RWS Pensioners List, age 83. He resided with his son, the Rev. Samuel Kitrell Hodges who died on or about 8 October 1840, Muscogee Co. 1840 Sumpter Co., AL; Pg. 153: Philemon Hodges (b. 3-7-3797) age 40/50, wife 30/40 with one son (10-15) and 2 daughters (1 age 5-10 and 1 under age 5). The last record I find for this Philemon Hodges is Dec. 15, 1841, where Philemon Hodges of Sumpter co., AL purchased, as assignee of Archibald M. Griffin , 2 parcels of land in Kemper Co., MS. Also, 1 December 1831, Philemon Hodges of Greene County, AL purchased, as assignee of John Nelson and James McDonald, an 80 acre tract of land in Hale County, AL. He also made three other purchases in Sumpter Co., AL in 1837 and 1839. ============================================= Our Elias Hodges was resident in Conecuh County, AL from 1819 until after the 1840 Census. He died sometime between 1840 and 1850. His brother-in-law married Elizabeth Hodges and resided in Baldwin Co., GA until after her death (sometime after 1824) when he removed to Conecuh County, AL where he is enumerated in 1830 with his second wife Dorcas. (We have family letters which identify Aunt Dorcas Duboss marrying in 1839 her second husband, Archibald Glidewell who was first married to Betsy Jones). There is an Abram Jones also resident of Conecuh-Covington, identified in the letters as Uncle Abram (Abraham) Jones who d. 1839. He connects with the Hodges Line or the Dubose Line; just don't know which yet. Now, this Elias Hodges, and his wife Elizabeth Dubose, were related to the Hodges and Dubose families of Washington County, GA. Two of his sons, Elias Hodges, Jr. and Richard Hodges both lived and died in Jefferson County, GA where their estates were probated. Their brother, George Hodges was co-executor of both his brother's estates. He resided in Washington Co., GA in 1820, Jackson Co., FL in 1830 and from 1840 until his death (bet. 1840-1850 if memory serves) he was resident in Barbour County, AL. Several Dubose families were also resident in Barbour County. Believe our William ELIAS Hodges connects back to Elias HODGES the 2nd who removed from NC to SC where he died. This line, I believe, traces back to Elias Hodges, son of Robert Hodges. Had initially felt that RWS Philemon Hodges and our Elias might be brothers. Now feel they're probably cousins. Haven't absorbed all of the info that has been shared on the list these last two weeks. I would welcome any insight if anyone sees anything familiar from the NC, SC, to GA migrations. Thanks Kaye