Hi Llew, I'm the one Ken mentioned looking for my HODGE family from Swansea, Glamorgan, and have since traced them back to the early/mid-1700s in Pembrokeshire. Can't get back farther than that right now, though I've found someone in Pembrokeshire that is researching the HODGE line also, and he's sent me "pieces of the jigsaw." Also recently found a "cousin" of my line in England. I had lots of luck getting a start on my family from the GLAMORGAN mail list (GLAMORGAN-L@rootsweb.com) -- people were able to check census info, etc for me, which is how I got my family back to Pembrokeshire. I think Monmouthshire also has a mail list, and this could prove invaluable to you. Also, the LDS have microfilmed large numbers of church records in the 1700/1800s which I've successfully used to track my HODGE line, as well as several other lines. Those might also help. Good luck! Sharon