Hi Bob, The connection was made by Dr. J.E.Hodges in one of his articles. He also disputed the statement that Thomas or John were Tories. One of the four brothers may have been but this would have been Joseph, if true. It would be interesting to know who lived in Surry Co. that Thomas lived with for a while in 1780-82 before moving to the Boone area. There was a John Hodges there about this time but have not been able to connect him. BTW, this is another line that uses Hodge and Hodges as a surname. The following are some abstracts from Dr. Hodges and others: HODGES FAMILY HISTORY TRACED BY MAIDEN, N.C., MEMBER OF CLAN By Dr. J.E. Hodges, Maiden, N.C. When Tom Hodges unloaded his tow pack horses and two milk cows, on whose backs were transported all the world;s goods he brought over the mountains, all the territory of what is now Watauga County was a howling wilderness. He had left the scattered settlement on the Yadkin far behind. Many miles down the Watauga, about Sycamore shoals, was the Watauga settlement. In the Valle Crucis section, Sam Hix and his son-in-law, James Holtsclaw, had a cabin and stockade, but it is doubtful if Hodges ever knew they were there. In fact, he was where the foot of white men had seldom trod, with nature for his companion. They ( Hodges) are plentiful in the Patriot Army, and while I have carefully searched the records, have found only one Hodges in North Carolina who was a Tory, Lieux (sic.) Joseph Hodges of Cumberland County, they served their country in almost every capacity during the long, heart-breaking struggle for independence. ********* Thomas Hodges came to Hodges' Gap (1 1/2 miles west of Boone, N.C. during the Revolutionary War (1775-1783)). He was a Tory and tried to stay out of the war. Came from Virginia and brought his family with him. [From Dr. J.E. Hodges of Maiden, NC. in the "Watauga Democrat" dated 7/13/1950 ;; In 1750, four brothers of the name landed in Philadelphia, and after a short sojourn in Pa., all came south. These brothers were named John, David, Thomas, and Joseph. Though not definitely known, John is suppose to have been the oldest, Thomas the youngest. John served in the French and Indian War and was under Washington at Braddock's Defeat. Thomas came into Surry Co. in either 1781 or 1782 and stayed there a short time, maybe living with relatives. ] ********** The following from the Adjutant General, January 25, 1950: "Thomas Hodges served in the Revolutionary War as a private in Capt. Elijah Blakman's Company, in the detachment of the Regiment of Foot, commenced by Col. Henry Sherburne, Continental Troops. He enlisted May 26, 1777 to serve three years and was discharged April 30, 1780." That established without question, the military service of Thomas Hodges, or Hodge, as then spelled. "A History of Western North carolina, 1730-1913, by John P. Arthur, states that Thomas Hodges came from Virginia during the Revolutionary War, to avoid being drafted in to the American Army, and settled at Hodges Gap just west of the present town of Boone; that he was a Tory and that the Norrises did not come to what is now Watauga County until about 1830. He also says that John Hardin was the father of Joseph and John Hardin, living near Boone in 1813." Dr. Hodges says, "The facts are entirely different." Another historical record says, "Thomas Hodges landed in Philadelphia with two brothers and settled in Virginia, where he served a term in a Virginia Company during the War of the Revolution. On being discharged, he moved to Surry County, North Carolina, and fought in Maj. Joseph Winston's contingent of Surry troops at the Battle of Kings' Mountain. He later settled in Wilkes County, west of Blue Ridge near the present town of Boone." The Federal census of 1790 shows that Thomas Hodges was living in Wilkes County, and that his family consisted of himself and wife, one son over 16, three under 16, and five daughters." It was in 1780 that Thomas Hodges came to North Carolina as a member of company of mounted militia, commanded by Maj. Cloyd, and fought with about sixty Surry County militia at the Battle of Shallowford. Col. Gidson Wright had embodied some 300 Tories and was trying to get through the bands of Whits who were watching him, and to join the British under Cornwallis. Wright had 300 Tories to face the 160 Whit militia. The battle, in open woods, lasted the greater part of the day when the Tories retreated. The patriots lost only one man, killed, while the Tories lost more than 100. They found 14 dead Tories, while they carried off their wounded and many of their dead. They left 3 of their wounded. Capt. Benjamin Burke, a Tory officer, was killed. He was a brother of Mary Burke, who married Joseph Murphy, and lived in the territory drained by New River, where it separated Ashe and Watauga Counties. The Moravian Records (8 Volumes) have quite a bit to say on the battle, as the wounded were left mostly at Bethabara; and, Dr. Bonn, the Moravian doctor, went to the wounded who were not able to be moved, and patched them up as best he could. The battle was fought October 14, 1780. Thomas Hodges evidently liked Surry County, for in a few months he moved his family there. Just why Thomas Hodges moved to Surry County, North Carolina and, after a time, crossed the Blue Ridge and settled just west of Boone, is not known. There were several families of the name living in Surry County at this time, four being prominent: one Edmund Hodges, being a member of the Committee of Safety. It is not known just how long Thomas Hodges lived in Surry County. He had settled at Hodges Gap, near Boone, prior to 1785. The 1790 census shows him with a wife, 4 sons and 5 daughters: I can't place a Thomas Hodge/s in Augusta Co., Va. during this time although I've done a lot of reading about the area. Let me know if you see the mention of him again. Ken in Orlando At 10:43 PM 07/26/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Kenneth > > Have you definitely connected Thomas Hodges of Hodges Gap to the Welsh >brothers? I thought I recalled a post a few months ago from someone tracing >him to Augusta County, Va. I know those facts are not mutually exclusive. >The Watauga history says that he was a Tory. The Holtzclaws are a Germanna >family. I will post the Watauga Holtzclaws if anyone thinks it will help >them with the Hodges. > >Bob Hodges > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Kenneth Hodge <khodge@gdi.net> >To: <HODGES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, July 26, 1999 2:58 AM >Subject: [HODGES-L] Re: Unidentified subject! > > >> Hi Harold, >> >> The following is Thomas' older brother John. I posted this a while back >> but you may not have seen it. I have more on his line if you have an >> interest. >> >> "These Hodges were natives of Wales and emigrated to America through a >> (North Carolina Port" ?). It is believed that there were four brothers >but >> no information on two of them. [new info states that John Sr. came through >> Pa. to NC and then to the Watauga Area. >> [ note:: From "King's Mountain Men".. White Allison, Jr. settled in >> Sullivan Co., Tn. in 1773; married Miss Hodge whose father was from Wales, >> as did his son John, who also lived in Tn.. [ It looks as though these >> were Hodges. ]] >> >> Thomas Hodges settled in Hodges Gap, two miles west of the town of Boone, >> North Carolina. This is in the Valle Crucis area. Thomas and James >> Holtzclaw built cabins in 1781. >> >> On 4/11/1776, John Hodges Sr. purchased 330 Acres of land in Washington >> County on the south side of the Watauga River. This land was conveyed in >> one deed by Charles Carson from Notche Settlement of the Dominion of >Spain. >> >> Ken >> >> At 03:38 PM 07/25/1999 -0500, you wrote: >> >Llew, so nice seeing your note on the Hodges page. We believe my >> >GGGGrandfather Thomas came to America around the mid 1770's along with >his >> >brothers John, David and Joseph. They came from Wales and settled in >> >Virginia before migrating into North Carolina. We are also uncertain as >to >> >his brothers and where they went. Thomas's parents never came into the >USA >> >dieing in Wales. As far as we know the boys never went home to stay. I >> >would certainly like to know about Thomas's brothers and parents but I >don't >> >know how to begin. Do you have any Ideas? >> >Have you traced your family back to Wales? >> >By the way my name now is Hodge as my fathers generation dropped the S >from >> >their name. We have traced the family back and know definitely the name >was >> >Hodges. >> >It was really nice to see your posting and if you would care to answer I >> >would like to talk farther. >> > Harold Hodge >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== HODGES Mailing List ==== >> Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >> Cooperative? http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> >> > > >==== HODGES Mailing List ==== >Don't forget that to subscribe to the Digest form, send a message to: >HODGES-D-request@rootsweb.com >Put one word only in the body of the message, >Subscribe > >